toothdoc

I'll say 530 h.p, and 490-500 torque.

Schiznick

My guess, 0, they will never build it..... If they did build an E65, why would it have less than the current 65 engine?

If you are talking about the 63 it may be a different story.....

Just my .02

toothdoc

My mistake, I met the E63.

Jakpro1

I agree..E63 with about 530hp, BUT I do think they will put out an "S65" like option for those with the bling that will have twin turb 12 or 8 with 600+hp.

M&M

Torque is easier & is based on the capacity of the engine. Will not be more than 460lb/ft NA.

HP is also easier. Looking at the new technology SLK350 engine or even better a C55 (because its gets harder to maintain high hp/litre as the capacity increases), you will see that a theoretical maximum of 80hp/litre is possible.

So unless AMG have some revolutionary new engine concept the power won't be more than 500hp.

BoBcanada

i would agree it's hard to make hp from N/A engines, i cant think of a V8 n/a engine with 490-500 hp.

E55 RUSS

I have read in one mag that new ML63 AMG will have 465HP and 600torgues...

Therefore if current ML had 10Hp less the 210 E55 (I am taking Euro figures)

347 and 357HP... E63 will have around 475-480 Hp at least...

I think it will be closer to 500HP and it will definately have AMG open diff (LSD)...so it will be able to transfer all the power better to the ground and be faster in straight line then e60 M5 ...

The E65 will have 604US HP and 612 Euro HP...

Jakpro1

I just can't imagine them doing that. We are already seeing the New M5 at least pacing the current 476hp E55. (trying not to provoke fame war again)

As I have said before, it's not as if AMG does not know what is happening at BMW....they know they are the main competition and will adjust engines accordingly. To give BMW handling AND straight line performance would be suicide. It'll be over 500+, guaranteed.....probably just a tick faster than the M5 so we all will be happy. Hopefully much faster ....we'll see.

toothdoc

Jakpro1,

Did you run against that Camero in your picture?

BenzVince

I highly doubt if there is going to be a E65 since the chances are remote.

Jakpro1

Yeah, some punk on the bottle...I was allllll over him, then he sprayed a 55gal drum shot .....something like a 250 shot and beat me. That's okay, his motor will be toast soon and I will still be rockin and rollin.....by the way, his ole lady was giving me or maybe the car the eyes afterward...that REALLY pissed him off. Nothing like a Benz for mid life crisis.

BlownV8

Wrong, depends on the engine. Here is a naturally aspirated Porsche 928 motor with head work, cams, individual throttle bodies, and stroker kit that produces close to 100 hp/liter and does it without revving past 6,200 rpm. http://www.devek.net/index.php?page=nfo_cars_whitecar Surely the engineers at Mercedes could do better!

MB AMG55

Jakpro1, I just have one thing to say........YOU ROCK! I've got your video on my desktop and I probably play that thing a few times a day. Yep, I've got no life, but your video still rocks. Where you from man, and you got any other video's of your E kicking ***?

onesixeight

If we're talking the new 6.3L V8, I'm guessing 500hp and 440-460 ft/lbs TQ. I don't think the new AMG engine will match the 5.4L SC for torque... I don't imagine a much faster sedan from Mercedes...it will match the 0-60 and 1/4 mi for the current car, but not a whole not faster.

M&M

BlownV8 I guess you are the one that's wrong as the ML63 has already been released & it has 470hp & 600NM. I guess it will e detuned by about 20hp compared to the E63.

Did you really think AMG would release a car with 100hp/litre with hot cams etc. Does an engine with that torque curve suit an AMG customer? No, AMG customers want loads of low down torque so the cams have to be mild.

BlownV8

M&M, this is what you said. You said nothing about parameters and only said that with increased displacement comes decreased engine potential. You really feel that BMW is the only luxury auto maker that can build a naturally aspirated engine that is 100 hp per liter? Wrong!!!!!!!!! There is no doubt that Mercedes could make a naturally aspirated E63 with 630 hp. Will they? I don't think they will. Will the aftermarket make a 630 hp E63? You bet! It has nothing to do with driveability and more to do with Mercedes wanting an engine that will last 300,000 miles vs other auto manufacturers that build very tightly wound high performance engines to last 100,000 miles...if they are lucky.

04E55 AMG

My thought is that anyone who has a Kleemann K2 or K3 with LSD already has more performance than anything MB will come out with ever for the E class.

NOTKTS

Then what about the E63 K3 upgrades?

04E55 AMG

With a NA engine, it may be harder to get huge gains. But, the madness never does end

NOTKTS

I dunno if Kleemann slaps their supercharger and all other goodies on it like they did to the SLK55/C55 which made 596Hp.... That will be on sick grocery getter.

schwarzwagen

you sound as if you are trying to put M&M in a corner. so what if the engineers at amg can make a 100hp/L engine, big deal. mb wants reliable engines, not some cobbled together piece of crap with a lot of really expensive hardware.

dead_eye

There is nothing really special about AMG engines. The 5.4L and 6.5L are both bored out versions of the 5.0L and 6.0L mb engines respectively. When was the last time MB won enigne of the year? So in reality, mb engines are more cobbled together as they were not designed from the ground up. MB can and has made great engines, but these simply aren't it.

Improviz

..which are built by hand by an AMG technician with AMG exclusive components (including the blocks), dyno tested...

Ridiculous. AMG engines are hand built, which in and of itself is special, and every automotive review I've seen has waxed poetic about these motors.

Further, in Ward's 2005 top ten engines list, you will find two DaimlerChrysler motors, no BMW motors.

BlackC230Coupe

The Ferrari F430 is close.

NOTKTS

483Hp and claimed 60 in 3.6.... yet it only has a top speed of 186Mph. The gearing seems a little off to me.