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209 clk55 kill on 211 E55?

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Old 08-17-2005, 12:07 AM
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W211 E55 AMG, ML63 AMG, Past 996GT3,ZCPM3,Brabus C32,ML 500
Those are BMW excuses..
I have driven the E55, just my opinion..
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C55 AMG, 135i, 911 GT3, GLE43 AMG
Originally Posted by Vetluver
I've driven both at the AMG Challenge. As stock vehicles the C55 could not keep up with the E55 under any circumstances, period. The E55 is not an bad a handler as you might think. The C55 was a big dissappointment. It lacked torque and was not the sparkliing handler I expected. It was a relative slug and reminded me of the W210s handling, solid but it wanted to go straight all the time. The new SLK55s suspension was far superior in every way to the C55. I think the new C class which will come soon will have much improved nimbleness, quickness of turn in and roadability.
Don't want to start any "war" here, but the C55 is definitely not a "slug" that only wants to go straight. Yes, the E55 will blow the C55 away in a straight line simply because of such a huge power advantage for the E. Mercedes completely reworked the chassis/suspension/springs along with a wider front track and more direct steering ratio for the 2005 C55, compared to 2004 and earlier C32 models. This has resulted in the C55 having the same lap time around "the ring" as the benchmark BMW M3 (E46). See below. If it can hang with a stock M3 on a challenging track like "the ring", I'd say the C55 can handle pretty damn well, assuming you have the skill to push the car to its limits. The C32 is obviously much slower around the same track.

This is from the 2004 Nurburgring Nordschleife Car Lap Time Database:

Mercedes C55 AMG ( 7/2004) 8:22
Mercedes C32 AMG ( 9/2001) 8:37
Mercedes Benz C43 AMG ( 3/1998) 8:51

BMW M3 CSL ( 8/2003) 7:50
BMW M3 ( 12/2000) 8:22
BMW M3 ( 3/1997) 8:35

Audi S4 Avant (11/2003) 8:29
Audi RS4 ( 10/2000) 8:25
Audi S4 ( 8/1998) 8:42
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The only 55 N/A that is a match for the S/C 55 cars is the SLK 55, due to the low weight it carries compared to the C55 and CLK 55.

It's very close 0-100, but after that the E55 has the edge.
Old 08-17-2005, 09:56 AM
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Give me another kill story. E55's are NOT as overwhelming as you think. Faster? Yes.

See my prior comments.
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these road racing comparisons mean nothing unless they are done by the same driver, on the same day with both cars.....
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I raced a 2001 E55 AMG in my 330ci 5 speed about a year ago.




























And got smoked big time.
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Originally Posted by scovit
Give me another kill story. E55's are NOT as overwhelming as you think. Faster? Yes.

See my prior comments.

Scovit, no one is contesting that the C55 is a fast car, it's just that the E55 is much faster. The margin is greater than you may want to believe. Off the line is where the C55 may have chance, but on a roll the E55 will obliterate the C55. Having done so on many occassions to a CLK55, I assume the C55 has just about equal performance as the CLK. From a stop to about 100, they're very close, but from a 50mph roll, the E55 just simply walks away and actually "runs" away at 100+

You have a sweet looking and peforming car, it's just not powerful enough to hang with the E. No insult or offense intended.
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scovit, a full second in a 1/4 mile run is HUGE.

We are talking multiple carlengths here. To put this in perspective, difference in a 1/4 mile run between the C55 and 211 E55 is the same as the difference between your car and a 330i, OK? Have you ever run a 330i? Not even close. Well, the E55 would do the same to you, and do it worse at high speeds.
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'05 C55 Black/Black Lighting, Premium, NAV
Man. You E55 drivers are crazy!! I smoked a black W211 E55 the other day. Was not even close.

Disclaimer: E55 did not participate in the race

E55 is faster. but DragonAMG will save us with his uber sled!!! Save us DragonAMG!!!!

https://mbworld.org/forums/c32-amg-c55-amg-w203/116837-kleemann-55k-s7-update-pictures-dyno.html

Just joking. C55 is a fast motherf***ker. I love this car. BUT I am not delusional either. E55 would b*tchslap us!!
C55 might have a chance if the E55 was going in reverse.

"Can't we all just get along?"

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Old 08-18-2005, 01:04 AM
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Agreed ^^^^ Let's gp rape some BMW's and Audi's!!!
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2005 Brilliant Silver E55
Originally Posted by mez456
Agreed ^^^^ Let's gp rape some BMW's and Audi's!!!
Beat up enough of those...you ever see the movie Kunfu Shuffle? Well I felt like the "top killer in the world"....was just waiting for something worthy.

Just kidding...no insult or flame was ever intended for the little C55 brother. Wait, I'm getting a M5 soon so the C55 would not be the little brother but the enemy's little brother.
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The enemy of my enemy is my brother....
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'05 C55 Black/Black Lighting, Premium, NAV
Originally Posted by E55_POWER
Wait, I'm getting a M5 soon so the C55 would not be the little brother but the enemy's little brother.


J/K Can not wait to see the new M5. What a beast. No offense to the E55. E55 is my first choice but I just I just appreciate fast uber sleds!!

Mez

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