aintME

https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...19#post1222119

thoughts?

mrankovic

Probably the 155mph limit on the W211

04E55 AMG

The E55 was not trying or the guy is in fantasy land. A W211 E55 will smoke it

AMGfan

I don't know, maybe one of the following or a combination of things could have happened...

1. As stated before, S/C may have overheated on W211 AMG
2. W211 AMG driver launch technique sucked
3. A poser W211 AMG?
4. CLK55 was not stock?

Drag Times for CLK55/C55/E55

BlownV8

Maybe this guy is really APK1013?

E55_POWER

Do people reailze that the E55 pulls even harder beyond 110MPH?

The E55 will KILL a CLK55 with just bolt ons, maybe the CLK had a blower...thats about the only way it would make sense, let alone have a chance.

This could have happened, but E55 probably gave up or that E was f@cked up.

Kudos to the CLK owner, sounds very impressive.

Marcus Frost

I posted my thoughts on the thread, I've done enough runs to my VMAX to know what can and can't hang (within reason) and no 350rwhp CLK is going to be pulling at 145mph on any properly running W211 E55.

-m

aintME

i can sorta, kinda, not really understand the story. could it be by the time CLK55 reached ~100mph the W211 E55 was already bouncing off its 155mph limiter? he stated the gap was closing ~125mph. i can't explain how the E55 could not get more than a 12m gap on the clk. from his story, it sounds like if they started even, they would have stayed even

Jakpro1

Nah, not enough uses of the word "represent".

aintME

i guess i don't need to assume anything anymore. his mods are in his sig. no FI, no NOS. basic bolt-ons.

DJE55

He's full of sh*t. He claims he raced his car at the drag strip in the rain. No way that happened either.

BlownV8

I'm thinking he is full of it on the RWHP of the car too. He got 50 RWHP out of piddly items that should yield no more than 15 to 20 RWHP combined but to gain over 50 RWHP.......???

Jakpro1

From some other forums. I guess we are being beaten all over the place.

190DC Diesel Forum

"Converted to vegtable oil and just walked on a W211 today guys. It was incredible....he even said he had modded ECU, although I am not sure what that is??"



From the Perodua Kelisa Forum

"Greetings Comrades....after we slogged down a 5th of Gladka Vodka, we pulled at least 10 car lengths on what we belive was a W211 E55 with near 500hp. Putin would be proud."



From the model T forum

"Felt like I was on the Pony Express allll over again boys. Ain't seen action like that since WWI. Pulled at least 3 lengths on what we think was a steam driven Kraut car. Must have been steamer, as smoke poured out from the tires, but we beat it soundly. Scored one for the boys back home"



From the Apache Forum

"Great Silver Eagle come from sky....swoop down to challenge us. We face each other in great battle. We pull 3 horse length on Great Silver Eagle with 3 Pointed Star Eye, then as quickly as battle begins, the great warrior vanishes. Great victory for our people..pride and honor once again live in the Apache Nation.

aintME

:p

BlownV8

Roflmao!

M5KILLR

you are the f ing man jak! i luv sh** like that, off the wall and truely helarious.

scovit

"From a C55 owner, the little brother of the E55"........................

Specs would indicate that it's not possible. Mechanics, maybe not. Sounds like other variables affected the outcome, SC, ECU...driver, malfunction, who knows!

You E55 guys shouldn't think there's such a huge gap between the regular aspirated version of your car.

I'll take a 500hp normally aspirated engine vs. a 500hp supercharged engine any day of the year.

AMG's migration toward the 63 series engine could provide evidence that MB believes in power through normal aspiration as an overall strategy. That is not to say that they will phase out supercharging, hardly! But my point is where does the bulk of the power come from? Normal aspiration.

At any rate, if I track ran my C55 and then track ran an E55, the E55 w/no mechanical issues would have better times every time, but not by a wide margin. Then again an S55 w/ 492HP should beat an E55? No?

E55_POWER

Actually the S and E have exact same HP, don't let those "fake" numbers fool ya. Having been an owner of both the W211 E55 and the 04 CL55 and having dyno'ed both on same dyno, they're the same HP motor.

We're talking close to 150HP in difference in power, that's pretty substancial I would say. Having raced numerous CLK55s in my E55, the outcome was not even funny. Pulling away even harder up top. The CLK55s only chance is off the line.

JLee's car sounds impressive, but the story, there's something wrong IMO. The bolt ons cannot possibly give that motor 50RWHP, that would equate to about 65ish Crank HP from basic bolt ons. Now if he had a blower, that would make more sense.

And sorry to be the one breaking it to you, the C55, while a fast car would lose by a wide margin on a 1/4 track to the E55 and even wider margin on a 1/2 mile track. But look on the bright side, you'll kill the E on twisties.

aintME

349-362 vs 469 (stated) but, more importantly, 376-391 vs 516 torque. trust me, it's a big *** difference and a pretty large gap. I have been a fan of the AMGs, especially the NA motors of the past. it took me awhile to embrace the SC'd cars, but, you can't argue with the power of the FI cars.

Marcus Frost

I had an '02 E55 prior to my '03, which is similar in power to the CLK55. I'm not guessing, I'm telling you, it's not even close. The E55 is the fastest of the Kompressor cars only second now possibly to the CLS. The N/A 55 cars do not stand a chance against the E55, end of story.

I'm sorry if you don't like hearing that, apparently you aren't the only one.

-m

scovit

I knew this would evoke a response and it did. Good.

Don't be so sure that big brother would rip little brother by a huge margin.

I want to hear another 55 real life kill. No "stories", just to hear the deal either way.

Here's the way I see it. Little brother is a beast. Big brother is a bigger beast. I will not dispute that, but not by the margin you E55 owners think and that's real.

So the point about the CLK55 is that it could happen, unlikely, but they "all drive strong". I feel absolutely comfortable saying that, having driven all three.

Vader13

I wanna see a race in the twisties, E55's are BOATS

Fikse

heh, you're in denial..... the E55 will trounce you by a WIDE margin, everytime....

Vetluver

I've driven both at the AMG Challenge. As stock vehicles the C55 could not keep up with the E55 under any circumstances, period. The E55 is not an bad a handler as you might think. The C55 was a big dissappointment. It lacked torque and was not the sparkliing handler I expected. It was a relative slug and reminded me of the W210s handling, solid but it wanted to go straight all the time. The new SLK55s suspension was far superior in every way to the C55. I think the new C class which will come soon will have much improved nimbleness, quickness of turn in and roadability.

As far as whether NA is superior to FI. All I'll say is no matter how much HP a NA engine has, you can always get more with a blower, turbo or nitrous injection. The most powerful reciprocating piston engines on the planet have blowers. Ask Kenny Bernstein.

Marcus Frost

Wow, now let's break out the ricer excuses.

E55 isn't as bad as you think on the road course, do a search, there are a couple of members who have tracked them.

-m