Little Shoot-out
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Little Shoot-out
Ok.. This should be fun... Got in contact with a local guy I know here who is running a Kleemann Stage 3 car (ECU, headers, Cams, exhaust).
I have invited him to my next dyno session so we can compare both cars on the same day on the same dyno. I will have both runs plotted on the same graph so we can analyze and see the differences between the 2 cars.
Also, we are going to try and hookup for some "testing" on a closed road circuit to see how much of a difference there is in 1/4mile power between the 2 cars.
Stay tuned.. This should be fun and interesting at the same time.
I have invited him to my next dyno session so we can compare both cars on the same day on the same dyno. I will have both runs plotted on the same graph so we can analyze and see the differences between the 2 cars.
Also, we are going to try and hookup for some "testing" on a closed road circuit to see how much of a difference there is in 1/4mile power between the 2 cars.
Stay tuned.. This should be fun and interesting at the same time.
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That's AWESOME V!
Can you give us a full list of what you are running.
If able, can you post the dynos sheets as well. Klee says the cam will help him on the top end...interested to see what that looks like.
I am hoping you are running just Klee stage 2 with/without water mod...I wanna see what the difference is with the cams.
This is gonna be awesome.
**edit...sorry just noticed your sig....it hasn't changed right?
Can you give us a full list of what you are running.
If able, can you post the dynos sheets as well. Klee says the cam will help him on the top end...interested to see what that looks like.
I am hoping you are running just Klee stage 2 with/without water mod...I wanna see what the difference is with the cams.
This is gonna be awesome.
**edit...sorry just noticed your sig....it hasn't changed right?
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I am still running the same setup. I haven't installed any new parts yet.. Although if I do, I will provide that info when I make the post. I will definitely post the dyno graph and whatever other information I have.
His car is actually a Stage 3+ custom car. He has the Kleemann exhaust on there but kept the factory mufflers. I believe he has their throttle body on there too... not 100% sure but I'll post all the specs once I confirm it with him. He also has a custom program from Kleemann.. He asked them to lean out the program a bit so he can make more power.. His car should be one of the higher output Kleemann cars because he has everything they offer EXCEPT for the high flow water pump.
I will try to get this coordinated by the end of the week.
His car is actually a Stage 3+ custom car. He has the Kleemann exhaust on there but kept the factory mufflers. I believe he has their throttle body on there too... not 100% sure but I'll post all the specs once I confirm it with him. He also has a custom program from Kleemann.. He asked them to lean out the program a bit so he can make more power.. His car should be one of the higher output Kleemann cars because he has everything they offer EXCEPT for the high flow water pump.
I will try to get this coordinated by the end of the week.
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Victor,
Please o please get this setup this week and share the results with us. Heck, just call him up today and you two meet at some place on Queens Way and just do a race. I'm dying to know the results.
Regards,
Darren
Please o please get this setup this week and share the results with us. Heck, just call him up today and you two meet at some place on Queens Way and just do a race. I'm dying to know the results.
Regards,
Darren
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Please o please get this setup this week and share the results with us. Heck, just call him up today and you two meet at some place on Queens Way and just do a race. I'm dying to know the results.
Regards,
Darren
Regards,
Darren
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Originally Posted by darren_dallas
Victor,
Please o please get this setup this week and share the results with us. Heck, just call him up today and you two meet at some place on Queens Way and just do a race. I'm dying to know the results.
Regards,
Darren
Please o please get this setup this week and share the results with us. Heck, just call him up today and you two meet at some place on Queens Way and just do a race. I'm dying to know the results.
Regards,
Darren
How about contributing that little pulley to my R&D dept??
See what kind of tech info we could get if I had more parts to test with.
I want to try and get it done for Friday. Hopefully dyno will be available, weather will be cool, and my friend will be available also.
He and I will be trying to rent out Cayuga Dragway park for the day.. We are trying to rustle up some other cars and head down there for a day of heads-up racing... Video of EVERYTHING will be taken! (including pulls on the dyno)
Last edited by vrus; 08-30-2005 at 12:06 PM.
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Victor,
This guy you met with the Kleemann Stage 3 is he on the board? If not what are you waiting for? You should invite him here so he can share his experience with his car. Also if you do this "testing" pls oh pls! Video is a MUST!! Do you know about how much is he putting down rwhp/crank?
This guy you met with the Kleemann Stage 3 is he on the board? If not what are you waiting for? You should invite him here so he can share his experience with his car. Also if you do this "testing" pls oh pls! Video is a MUST!! Do you know about how much is he putting down rwhp/crank?
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Originally Posted by JamE55
Victor,
This guy you met with the Kleemann Stage 3 is he on the board? If not what are you waiting for? You should invite him here so he can share his experience with his car. Also if you do this "testing" pls oh pls! Video is a MUST!! Do you know about how much is he putting down rwhp/crank?
This guy you met with the Kleemann Stage 3 is he on the board? If not what are you waiting for? You should invite him here so he can share his experience with his car. Also if you do this "testing" pls oh pls! Video is a MUST!! Do you know about how much is he putting down rwhp/crank?
I invited him here that same day but he doesn't spend time on the boards.. He just doesn't like the scene.
I have no idea what he is putting down.. He was told a number but I am not going to repeat it. I will just wait and see the car on the dynojet.
I bought a new little toy just so that I can have video with me all the time.. I have decided that I will be taking video of every dyno session and any other testing session I do from now on.
This little thing is small enough that I just leave it in my car all the time now. http://product.samsung.com/cgi-bin/n...SC-X105L%2fXAA
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Originally Posted by AMG BLISS
Please keep us posted. You may pioneer how these E55's should be modified from start to finish.
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Spoke with my friend with the Kleemann car.. Here is what he said he had:
- Kleemann Stage 3 (ECU, pulley, Headers, Cams)
- Kleemann exhaust system
- Maybach throttle body
He told me what Kleemann dyno'd the car at but for respect for both of them I wont mention any numbers.
I have booked aside 1 hr of dyno time for this Friday. He wasnt sure if he could make it but said he would call me tonight to confirm. I am hoping we can do back to back runs and compare cars.
I am very interested in doing this with him because my car has stock boost WITH cooling mods.. He has HIGHER Boost and ECU programming WITHOUT cooling mods.
Hopefully it'll work out and he will be able to come with me...
If he can't make it then I will cancel the dyno time and wait until my race cats and oil catch can are installed before going back for another run.
- Kleemann Stage 3 (ECU, pulley, Headers, Cams)
- Kleemann exhaust system
- Maybach throttle body
He told me what Kleemann dyno'd the car at but for respect for both of them I wont mention any numbers.
I have booked aside 1 hr of dyno time for this Friday. He wasnt sure if he could make it but said he would call me tonight to confirm. I am hoping we can do back to back runs and compare cars.
I am very interested in doing this with him because my car has stock boost WITH cooling mods.. He has HIGHER Boost and ECU programming WITHOUT cooling mods.
Hopefully it'll work out and he will be able to come with me...
If he can't make it then I will cancel the dyno time and wait until my race cats and oil catch can are installed before going back for another run.
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Originally Posted by vrus
- Maybach throttle body
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Originally Posted by JamE55
Anybody know if this is something that can be used for a W210 E55/W211 E55 chassis? Where can we get one and how much of an advantage would this provide?
Find out more about that mod if you can Victor, or maybe Kleemann can chime in here.
-m
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Originally Posted by Marcus Frost
Interesting, a Maybach throttle body. The Maybach uses the V12 - I wonder if any special adaptations are necessary? I wonder how it differs from the SL/CL/S65 cars (which are rated for more HP?)
Find out more about that mod if you can Victor, or maybe Kleemann can chime in here.
-m
Find out more about that mod if you can Victor, or maybe Kleemann can chime in here.
-m
I will have to ask him for details on this one next time I see him (I'll snap some pics of the engine bay also).
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Originally Posted by Marcus Frost
Interesting, a Maybach throttle body. The Maybach uses the V12 - I wonder if any special adaptations are necessary? I wonder how it differs from the SL/CL/S65 cars (which are rated for more HP?)
Find out more about that mod if you can Victor, or maybe Kleemann can chime in here.
-m
Find out more about that mod if you can Victor, or maybe Kleemann can chime in here.
-m
I've already inquired on this to kleemann and just waiting for their response. I've also inquired about a posibbility of twin throttle if that's even possible or not. I'll keep you guys posted.
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Well.. My friend just called me.. He can't make it tomorrow so it looks like the dyno is cancelled for now.. He asked me to reschedule for next week so hopefully we'll be able to do something before the next week is over.
Stay tuned...
Stay tuned...