Air filter test data
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Originally Posted by ricky.agrawal
Specifically the K&N's being too oily and harming their MAF's.
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From: WOT somewhere in the Bay Area
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Ricky is right. More people have reported MAF problems after going to K&N vs Green. I for one had mine fail a few months after installing pre-oiled K&Ns. Very fine, dirty film all over it. I didn't know i could be cleaned so I replaced it. Switched to Green and have been running trouble free for over a year.
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From: Mia
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I have used k&n's and Afe's on many maf equipped cars without a single incident. But hey I learned along time ago that arguing over filters is like arguing over synthetic oil nothing but opinions and conjecture.
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Originally Posted by ricky.agrawal
So I'm trying to help some guys avoid a problem. And that's irresponsible?
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Yes, they sure do make them for the W211 E55. We have them on our site under the W211 E-Class section.
Someone mentioned there is a cleaning kit for them on the site, but I did not see that, and I wouldn't imagine you can clean paper filters anyway correct?
Look forward to trying them out.....
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Originally Posted by ricky.agrawal
So personal experiences are libel?
Dude, I didn't know I had to back up my personal experiences with some kind of formal analysis. Seriously, I thought we were sharing information.
Dude, I didn't know I had to back up my personal experiences with some kind of formal analysis. Seriously, I thought we were sharing information.
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You know what, you're right. It's not like I haven't read information from hundreds of differents of sites. It's not like I've helped quite a boat load of friends working with their cars. It's not like I haven't done stuff myself.
When I have a Green or an APE fail on me, you'll see I won't suggest others to buy them.
Don't leave, you know a lot, and I know I as well as others can learn a lot from you.
When I have a Green or an APE fail on me, you'll see I won't suggest others to buy them.
Don't leave, you know a lot, and I know I as well as others can learn a lot from you.
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Originally Posted by WayneE
Why do they like them MUCH better? I don't think there's any comparison out there for flow or filtering between the K&N and Greenies, right? So what's the basis for them liking them so much better?
Simple,
1. Customers had dynoed their car and got a few more ponies then K&N.
2. There butt dyno felt better.
3. Improved MPG over K&N and stock.
4. On cars with a MAF, lots of people have had problems with K&N. Not one problem ever with green or their oil.
5. Renntech even saw the difference and now uses Green filters instead of K&N on all there application.
Just look in the C55 forum, I have sold lots of Green Filters to for those cars and even the C32. Not one up happy customer. So good feedback is enough for me.
If you guys install these filters and have expectations like the car is supposed to run 1 sec. quicker in the 1/4 mile, think again. Its not like a new supercharger or a pulley kit. At the end of the day its still a filter, And just a good one at that.
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Originally Posted by Jakpro1
Thanks Black.....got order in now.
Someone mentioned there is a cleaning kit for them on the site, but I did not see that, and I wouldn't imagine you can clean paper filters anyway correct?
Look forward to trying them out.....
Someone mentioned there is a cleaning kit for them on the site, but I did not see that, and I wouldn't imagine you can clean paper filters anyway correct?
Look forward to trying them out.....
Thanks, i got it. I just sent you an email regarding the filter cleaner. I actaully did just update the site, so it is on there now.
These filters are cotton btw.
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From: Frederick, MD
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Originally Posted by BlackC230Coupe
Simple,
1. Customers had dynoed their car and got a few more ponies then K&N.
1. Customers had dynoed their car and got a few more ponies then K&N.
Can you show me a single dyno sheet where someone dynoed stock vs. K&N vs. Green and actually saw a "few more ponies" increase with Green over the other 2?
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Originally Posted by WayneE
Can you show me a single dyno sheet where someone dynoed stock vs. K&N vs. Green and actually saw a "few more ponies" increase with Green over the other 2?
If you feel more secure with the K&N I suggest just sticking with those.
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From: Frederick, MD
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Originally Posted by BlackC230Coupe
No can do there Sir. I have never dynoed one for myself. I simply just heard happy customers comments over the phone after there car was dynoed. I have absolutely no proof on paper that you gain anything from these.
If you feel more secure with the K&N I suggest just sticking with those.
If you feel more secure with the K&N I suggest just sticking with those.
I don't have a dog in this fight, I don't use K&N or Green in any of my vehicles (or sell them). I'm just trying to stick to the facts.
You and Ricky have posted anecdotal evidence, at best, to bolster your argument that Green is better than K&N.If you don't have any empirical evidence, just say so. Quoting BS dyno reports is, well, BS
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Originally Posted by WayneE
I don't have a dog in this fight, I don't use K&N or Green in any of my vehicles (or sell them). I'm just trying to stick to the facts. You and Ricky have posted anecdotal evidence, at best, to bolster your argument that Green is better than K&N.
If you don't have any empirical evidence, just say so. Quoting BS dyno reports is, well, BS
You and Ricky have posted anecdotal evidence, at best, to bolster your argument that Green is better than K&N.If you don't have any empirical evidence, just say so. Quoting BS dyno reports is, well, BS
I woud never say anything that is not true nor proven. Thats why i never said you gain x amount of HP with Green. Simply stating customers feedback is far from BS my friend.
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From: Joisey
1999 C280
If there is more increased throttle response, is there a chance of seeing the torque curve earlier on an NA whether racing or on a dyno, and then what are the effects on the torque curve on a FI(slim to none.)?
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From: Savannah GA
2020 G550
Originally Posted by StapleGun
Look up previous issues with MAF, they're countless.....
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From: Hollywood North
CLK 55 ///AMG Cabrio, ML63 ///AMG
This is my understanding as well. Overoiling of K&N filters. Green Filter owners should watch their oiling techniques and limit the oil quantity as well as air them out properly before re-installing after a cleaning. Out of the package, you should air them out before the initial install.
Originally Posted by E552006
According to a search, the only filters with this supposed problem are K&N's, due to over oiling.
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From where? I can't find these in Toronto Canada anywhere. Also, how much were they?
Originally Posted by E552006
I just ordered a set of Green Filters from you online. I will let everyone know about my impressions.
Josh
Josh
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From: Savannah GA
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Originally Posted by newguy2008
From where? I can't find these in Toronto Canada anywhere. Also, how much were they?
Look above
www.EuroteckMotorsports.com
$109 USD + shipping for both filters. 2 required for E55.
