W211 AMG Discuss the W211 AMG's such as the E55 and the E63

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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 12:22 PM
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One chip and pulley and that E63 will only get to see E55 tail-lights
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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Lexani
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And as for the E63-- get real, that thing should annihilate the new Z06.
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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Lexani
... 4.7? What the?

You guys truely amaze. Where on earth did you get a 4.7 to 60? What happen? The driver was clearly asleep.

I do not understand it how people can make such claims when we have members here running flat 12s (stock) through the 1/4. (12.0) Whereas I've seen times for the Vette at 11.6 and 12.1, respectively.

BoBocanda, even with the current E55, I'm pretty sure the outcome of the race will depend on the driver.

And as for the E63-- get real, that thing should annihilate the new Z06.

Or maybe I'm just one of the few who actually thinks AMG can best anything.

Clearly, we can remember the many doubts people had about this E55.
Now that is the sh*t I'm talking about

What in the hell happened to you all's passion?

Your W211 E55s are freaking monsters as is......FOR SH*TS SAKE.........they WILL NOT TAKE A STEP BACK with the E63

LET BMW LOVERS QUESTION THE AMGS...NOT THE G*D DAMN MERCEDES OWNERS

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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by amgdriven
Now that is the sh*t I'm talking about

What in the hell happened to you all's passion?

Your W211 E55s are freaking monsters as is......FOR SH*TS SAKE.........they WILL NOT TAKE A STEP BACK with the E63

LET BMW LOVERS QUESTION THE AMGS...NOT THE G*D DAMN MERCEDES OWNERS

Seriously!

Being a previous '03 owner, I know the vehicles abilities, and it's just shy of the new Z06. Infact, in the most recent C&D (or whichever mag), the Z06 clocked a time of 12.1 through the 1/4 mile.

I have seen time slips for the E55 at 12 flat! I will post both links later in the day when I have time to look for them.

Oh, and for the challenged, 12 flat beats a 12.1
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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Lexani
Seriously!

Being a previous '03 owner, I know the vehicles abilities, and it's just shy of the new Z06. Infact, in the most recent C&D (or whichever mag), the Z06 clocked a time of 12.1 through the 1/4 mile.

I have seen time slips for the E55 at 12 flat! I will post both links later in the day when I have time to look for them.

Oh, and for the challenged, 12 flat beats a 12.1

First of all the Z06 motor is underrated:
http://www.m3forum.net/m3forum/showthread.php?t=87292
2nd of all:
Car & Driver:
11.7 sec @ 125 MPH 1/4 mile
0-60 in 3.6 sec.
0-100 in 7.9 sec.
0-150 in 17 sec.
Skidpad = 0.98g

Motor Trend:
11.5 sec. @ 127 MPH 1/4 mile
0-60 in 3.7 sec.
Skidpad = 1.02 g

here are some 0-150 times

0 - 150MPH TIMES
12.8 MCLAREN F1
17.0 SALEEN S7
18.0 FERRARI F40
18.7 FERRARI F50
19.5 LAMBORGHINI MURCIELAGO
19.7 PORSCHE 911 GT2 (996)
20.8 FERRARI 612 SCAGLIETTI
21.4 LAMBORGHINI GALLARDO
21.6 PORSCHE 911 TURBO (996)
22.1 FERRARI 575M MARANELLO
22.4 DODGE VIPER SRT-10 (2003)
23.7 MERCEDES BENZ CL600 (2004)
23.9 FERRARI 360 CHALLENGE STRADALE
23.9 PORSCHE 911 GT3 (996)
24.5 MERCEDES E55 AMG (2003)
25.5 CHEVROLET CORVETTE C5 Z06
25.6 ASTON MARTIN DB9
25.9 PORSCHE 911 TURBO TIPTRONIC (996)
26.4 PORSCHE 911 CARRERA S (997)
28.0 MERCEDES SLK55 AMG (2005)
29.6 FERRARI 360 MODENA SPYDER
29.7 LOTUS ESPRIT V8 TT
30.0 BMW E39 M5
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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by EKaru
First of all the Z06 motor is underrated:
http://www.m3forum.net/m3forum/showthread.php?t=87292
2nd of all:
Car & Driver:
11.7 sec @ 125 MPH 1/4 mile
0-60 in 3.6 sec.
0-100 in 7.9 sec.
0-150 in 17 sec.
Skidpad = 0.98g

Motor Trend:
11.5 sec. @ 127 MPH 1/4 mile
0-60 in 3.7 sec.
Skidpad = 1.02 g

here are some 0-150 times

0 - 150MPH TIMES
12.8 MCLAREN F1
17.0 SALEEN S7
18.0 FERRARI F40
18.7 FERRARI F50
19.5 LAMBORGHINI MURCIELAGO
19.7 PORSCHE 911 GT2 (996)
20.8 FERRARI 612 SCAGLIETTI
21.4 LAMBORGHINI GALLARDO
21.6 PORSCHE 911 TURBO (996)
22.1 FERRARI 575M MARANELLO
22.4 DODGE VIPER SRT-10 (2003)
23.7 MERCEDES BENZ CL600 (2004)
23.9 FERRARI 360 CHALLENGE STRADALE
23.9 PORSCHE 911 GT3 (996)
24.5 MERCEDES E55 AMG (2003)
25.5 CHEVROLET CORVETTE C5 Z06
25.6 ASTON MARTIN DB9
25.9 PORSCHE 911 TURBO TIPTRONIC (996)
26.4 PORSCHE 911 CARRERA S (997)
28.0 MERCEDES SLK55 AMG (2005)
29.6 FERRARI 360 MODENA SPYDER
29.7 LOTUS ESPRIT V8 TT
30.0 BMW E39 M5
Kick *** Dude .................lets wait when the car comes out...............then see what it can do

Both the M5 and Zo6 have been in the rear view mirror of the w211 e55 for YEARS now......................soooooooooooooo.......... ....sit back and watch the E63 repeat history my corvette loving,**** talking, doomsaying, should've bought a chevy.............friend
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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 02:20 PM
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Uhm i don't think there's going to be a e63 anytime soon. This is my theory though, tell me what you guys think of this. The C55 and ML55 used the same engine, no s/c. While the E SL G and CL got the supercharged 55 engine. This time there's a 63 engine, also n/a like the c55 and ml55. Now what i'm thinking is that they'll prob supercharge it before it gets on the E class. This might sound like overkill but MB never ceases to surpise me... just like with their 65 AMG monsters. I also don't think they would put the 63 n/a in all the models. The c63 (if it comes out) would obviously be faster than the e63 if they used the same engine. Currently the E55 is a beast compared to the C55. Now why would they go and make the new E63 slower than the C63. I think there are two options, they would either downgrade the C63 engine or upgrade the E63 engine. I'm hoping for the upgrade :v E63 KOMPRESSOR!

Hmm? I think you have a really good point there. We'll have to wait and see but I'm sure AMG has a few tricks up their sleeve!
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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by amgdriven
Kick *** Dude .................lets wait when the car comes out...............then see what it can do

Both the M5 and Zo6 have been in the rear view mirror of the w211 e55 for YEARS now......................soooooooooooooo.......... ....sit back and watch the E63 repeat history my corvette loving,**** talking, doomsaying, should've bought a chevy.............friend
Hey I'm a Benz enthusiast
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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by EKaru
Hey I'm a Benz enthusiast
I apologize for coming across "right wing" ............the Z06 is an awesome piece of American history. I just want to make a point that the E63 has no released specs yet...........and a lot of people are counting it out before it has a chance to prove itself.

P.S...................did not mean to affend you with my

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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 06:39 PM
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I'm defeinitely thinking they will upgrade the E63 engine. I just can't believe they would have a C class and E class with the same engine...
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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 06:43 PM
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I'm defeinitely thinking they will upgrade the E63 engine. I just can't believe they would have a C class and E class with the same engine...
Good point.
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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Lexani
... 4.7? What the?

And as for the E63-- get real, that thing should annihilate the new Z06.
I agree with ekaru on this one. They will have the about same hp but the vette weighs 1000 lbs less.
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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 07:47 PM
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I agree with ekaru on this one. They will have the about same hp but the vette weighs 1000 lbs less.
Do you know something about the E63 that no one else knows about? How do you know it weighs 4200 lbs? " Rumor " has it.........they might make changes to suspension and brakes..............maybe making it lighter? YOU DON'T KNOW AND NEITHER DO I.

WHAT IN THE HELL PEOPLE

COME TO TEXAS............THERE ARE PLENTY OF "FAIR WEATHER" COWBOY FOOTBALL FANS HERE................MAYBE YOU ALL CAN GET TOGETHER AND BASH THE E63 WHILE YOU'RE AT IT
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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 08:17 PM
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About the weight point, there is no weigh in hell that an E-class is going to weigh anywhere close to a vet. They're not even in the same frigging class so stop comparing the two, it's just stupid.
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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by r3v1ls
About the weight point, there is no weigh in hell that an E-class is going to weigh anywhere close to a vet. They're not even in the same frigging class so stop comparing the two, it's just stupid.
Agreed, the E55 is far above the Vette-- no reason to bring the E55 down to its level.
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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by amgdriven
Kick *** Dude .................lets wait when the car comes out...............then see what it can do

Both the M5 and Zo6 have been in the rear view mirror of the w211 e55 for YEARS now......................soooooooooooooo.......... ....sit back and watch the E63 repeat history my corvette loving,**** talking, doomsaying, should've bought a chevy.............friend
Silence! How dare you defend the Mercedes in a Mercedes forum; perhaps we should skip to the BMW forums, if these guys hate the E55, maybe the BMW people hate the M5 and love the E55, so we can fit right in.



We can learn alot from history, as is why we teach it to our kids, for history is bound to repeat itself.
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 05:17 PM
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About the weight point, there is no weigh in hell that an E-class is going to weigh anywhere close to a vet. They're not even in the same frigging class so stop comparing the two, it's just stupid.
SAY MANG.......................when in the FU#K did I say they would weigh the same?

YOU nor anyone else knows the weight of the E63.............PERIOD..............that's my FUC#ing point to my post!

Trade in your C230 and buy an AMG..............maybe you would defend it then.
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by amgdriven

Trade in your C230 and buy an AMG..............maybe you would defend it then.

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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by r3v1ls
I'm defeinitely thinking they will upgrade the E63 engine. I just can't believe they would have a C class and E class with the same engine...

Has anyone heard of a C63? The whole "C63 would be faster than and E63" puzzled me too. I asked Rob Allen about it at one of the AMG challenge events and his response was basically "Who said the 63 is going in the C?"
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 08:46 PM
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by xraymd
Has anyone heard of a C63? The whole "C63 would be faster than and E63" puzzled me too. I asked Rob Allen about it at one of the AMG challenge events and his response was basically "Who said the 63 is going in the C?"

I can't believe that people are still questioning this... The 500hp 6.2 liter V8 will NOT go in the C-class Benz. Max power output will be 425ish hp and that will most likely come from a DOHC version of the 5.4 liter V8...
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 02:03 PM
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I can't believe that people are still questioning this... The 500hp 6.2 liter V8 will NOT go in the C-class Benz. Max power output will be 425ish hp and that will most likely come from a DOHC version of the 5.4 liter V8...
Eric....
If that is true....................and bmw is coming out with the m3 v-8 with @400 hp........................we have a good race my friends
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Old Nov 19, 2005 | 04:10 PM
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SAY MANG.......................when in the FU#K did I say they would weigh the same?

YOU nor anyone else knows the weight of the E63.............PERIOD..............that's my FUC#ing point to my post!

Trade in your C230 and buy an AMG..............maybe you would defend it then.
Hey chill out, i was simply saying that we all know that an E-class would weigh no where near a vette mainly because it's a luxury sedan and the vette is a 2 seater sports car.
I would love to own an AMG if i could afford one, unfortunutely not all of us can.
This whole defending what you drive thing is stupid. Just love what you drive, who cares if there are cars faster than yours...
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Old Nov 19, 2005 | 11:46 PM
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"can't believe that people are still questioning this... The 500hp 6.2 liter V8 will NOT go in the C-class Benz. Max power output will be 425ish hp and that will most likely come from a DOHC version of the 5.4 liter V8..".

Believe it, it will be 510hp in a limited production car. Mostly old news as the spy photos already out. BMW M5 owners already in denial.
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