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Originally Posted by deaguero
In all of the M5 & M6 videos we have seen the V10's all have been from a roll (40+ etc.) I think they excel at higher speeds and will only race at the "roll" which they are moving there mass at manageable speeds to eliminate the competitions torque advantage. Don't get me wrong they will probably beat our E55's in lots of rolling races, but race them from a standstill and utilize our torque advantage is the way to play against these guys. In the muscle car era I owned a Chevy 409 (remember the beach boys song?) in racing the Mopars (426 Plymouths & dodges) I would only race these guys from a "Roll" to offset their superior "Out of the hole" Torqueflite transmissions. These cars literally leaped out of the hole when they Brake torqued and pulled away from me even though our HP ratings were the same.
I am willing to bet that our 1/4 mile times will be better because they have to race from a dead stop. Even with their "Launch Control" they have to rev to 4000 rpm to get up in their torque band. But when all is said and done, THOSE CARS ARE BUTT UGLY, PERIOD!
I am willing to bet that our 1/4 mile times will be better because they have to race from a dead stop. Even with their "Launch Control" they have to rev to 4000 rpm to get up in their torque band. But when all is said and done, THOSE CARS ARE BUTT UGLY, PERIOD!
E90 sales are up over 85% over the e46 when it came out so more people are liking the newer bmw styling than you think.
the v10 has a dip in tourqe in the mid range and then peaks up at 6k there is more tourqe @3k than there is where there launching it.
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Originally Posted by reggid
Why do you always make posts trying to lessen BMW's achievments with their v10 powered M's. Its not the end of the world if the M can beat the odd AMG.
I thought that Mercedes fans (exculding you, apparently) might actually find this information to be interesting. Do you speak for all??
And are you forgetting that this is, after all,
A Mercedes forum???
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Originally Posted by Erik
You really belive it is staged ?, fine....
With so many owner meeting up to run against the M6, do you really belive the owner of a 996 would pretend to loose and have the story posted on several car forums.....
He lost not once but twice.
Even the founder and owner of Koenigsegg cars attended the meeting with his Koenigsegg monster, ........ no he did not race -- that would have been a flat out murder....
On this event the M6 lost some but won most of them.....
Regarding Tip or manuel, I have no clue.
If Gustav check in, he can maybe fill in the answer.....
With so many owner meeting up to run against the M6, do you really belive the owner of a 996 would pretend to loose and have the story posted on several car forums.....
He lost not once but twice.
Even the founder and owner of Koenigsegg cars attended the meeting with his Koenigsegg monster, ........ no he did not race -- that would have been a flat out murder....
On this event the M6 lost some but won most of them.....
Regarding Tip or manuel, I have no clue.
If Gustav check in, he can maybe fill in the answer.....
Anyway..........................not talking ****.............because I'm not..........but.............congradulations...... ...........BMW has been served for a few years now by the w211 e55..............and Bmw has recently managed to polish a turd.
NOT taking away the performance of the M5...........because I'm not.............but beating all of those cars? dude, come on!
But hey.................I wasn't there.
IF it is as fast as that STAGED video shows....................good
BMW's prize will get served by the E63 very soon and I will go to your forum and show you the video
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Originally Posted by Improviz
Why are you so paranoid? I simply pointed out, accurately, that none other than Gustav had participated in multiple rolling-start races with a Porsche Turbo, and had reported the same results, i.e. that the E55 beat the Porsche by a huge margin, on his M5 forum.
This time he run the M6, and offcourse you will have some idiots claiming this also is fake...
The event was anounced in advance and everyone was invited to take on the M6. Dont you think a lot of car fans would just love to kick some M6 butt.... Take a look at the turnout, lots of different brands......
Anyone seriously beliving this is all fake is just being silly.....
Regarding the fact that Gustav is the only one that has participated in a race with 996TT and some E55 with the M5/6 is not so strange....
How many of the M5 owners do you think know this site exist ? and how many of them would post their fun on a internett page, in % of the owners, I guess close to 0.
Very few non M5 owner has the possibility to lend such a car for several days, and how many of those do you belive is crazy enough to stage such events, film it and post it on the interenett just for the fun of it......
Gustav is obviously crazy enough and have the contacts necesarry.
Great IMO....
BTW: Gustav is not the only one that has raced the AMG Kompressor and the 996TT, I have done it to, 1 huge loos and 1 very narrow loss.
Cant understand why some of you are getting close to a heartattack again, no AMG kill has been posted yet, only a 996 and a AUDI kill.
I would belived that you was cheering for the AUDI kill, aint that you favorit enemy number 2.
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No offense, but i'm just looking forward to when DerekFSU gets his M5 and can share his test results. Derek has a great reputation for publishing results, unbiased, even if he's rooting for one team or another.
Gustav, well let's just say he's a devout BMW fan. He makes nice videos. Could use better camera techniques and maybe a class or two on video editing and choosing better music to score them with.
I'd be interested in seeing some 0 to XX speed runs. The rolling starts are nice, but around town, we're not going to roll down the street and get up to speed for the M5 before we play.
Gustav, well let's just say he's a devout BMW fan. He makes nice videos. Could use better camera techniques and maybe a class or two on video editing and choosing better music to score them with.
I'd be interested in seeing some 0 to XX speed runs. The rolling starts are nice, but around town, we're not going to roll down the street and get up to speed for the M5 before we play.
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Info you want to see more and a standing start with M6 vs. 996tt:
70mb video
EDIT: And this one was made by the Porsche guys. Stock 996TT do 1/4-miles in around 12.4s, right? So M6 is anywhere below that, possibly even high 11's?
70mb video
EDIT: And this one was made by the Porsche guys. Stock 996TT do 1/4-miles in around 12.4s, right? So M6 is anywhere below that, possibly even high 11's?
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Originally Posted by gmdebruyn
No offense, but i'm just looking forward to when DerekFSU gets his M5 and can share his test results. Derek has a great reputation for publishing results, unbiased, even if he's rooting for one team or another.
Originally Posted by gmdebruyn
Gustav, well let's just say he's a devout BMW fan. He makes nice videos. Could use better camera techniques and maybe a class or two on video editing and choosing better music to score them with.
Originally Posted by gmdebruyn
I'd be interested in seeing some 0 to XX speed runs. The rolling starts are nice, but around town, we're not going to roll down the street and get up to speed for the M5 before we play.
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Originally Posted by Erik
Gustav was claimed to be a liar last time he arranged simular events, later the same results has been reported by others.
This time he run the M6, and offcourse you will have some idiots claiming this also is fake...
The event was anounced in advance and everyone was invited to take on the M6. Dont you think a lot of car fans would just love to kick some M6 butt.... Take a look at the turnout, lots of different brands......
Anyone seriously beliving this is all fake is just being silly.....
Regarding the fact that Gustav is the only one that has participated in a race with 996TT and some E55 with the M5/6 is not so strange....
How many of the M5 owners do you think know this site exist ? and how many of them would post their fun on a internett page, in % of the owners, I guess close to 0.
Very few non M5 owner has the possibility to lend such a car for several days, and how many of those do you belive is crazy enough to stage such events, film it and post it on the interenett just for the fun of it......
Gustav is obviously crazy enough and have the contacts necesarry.
Great IMO....
BTW: Gustav is not the only one that has raced the AMG Kompressor and the 996TT, I have done it to, 1 huge loos and 1 very narrow loss.
Cant understand why some of you are getting close to a heartattack again, no AMG kill has been posted yet, only a 996 and a AUDI kill.
I would belived that you was cheering for the AUDI kill, aint that you favorit enemy number 2.
This time he run the M6, and offcourse you will have some idiots claiming this also is fake...
The event was anounced in advance and everyone was invited to take on the M6. Dont you think a lot of car fans would just love to kick some M6 butt.... Take a look at the turnout, lots of different brands......
Anyone seriously beliving this is all fake is just being silly.....
Regarding the fact that Gustav is the only one that has participated in a race with 996TT and some E55 with the M5/6 is not so strange....
How many of the M5 owners do you think know this site exist ? and how many of them would post their fun on a internett page, in % of the owners, I guess close to 0.
Very few non M5 owner has the possibility to lend such a car for several days, and how many of those do you belive is crazy enough to stage such events, film it and post it on the interenett just for the fun of it......
Gustav is obviously crazy enough and have the contacts necesarry.
Great IMO....
BTW: Gustav is not the only one that has raced the AMG Kompressor and the 996TT, I have done it to, 1 huge loos and 1 very narrow loss.
Cant understand why some of you are getting close to a heartattack again, no AMG kill has been posted yet, only a 996 and a AUDI kill.
I would belived that you was cheering for the AUDI kill, aint that you favorit enemy number 2.
The M5? or the staged race? :p
Chill sparky..................you're on our territory
YOU'RE having the heartattack trying to defend the whole thing..........we are just trying to **** you off
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Originally Posted by amgdriven
Dude......................who or what are you defending?
The M5? or the staged race? :p
Chill sparky..................you're on our territory
YOU'RE having the heartattack trying to defend the whole thing..........we are just trying to **** you off
The M5? or the staged race? :p
Chill sparky..................you're on our territory
YOU'RE having the heartattack trying to defend the whole thing..........we are just trying to **** you off
Aint defending the M5 either, the M5 can do that without me......
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Originally Posted by Erik
I aint close to getting a heart attack, I am just a bit amused about some of the posts.
Aint defending the M5 either, the M5 can do that without me......
Aint defending the M5 either, the M5 can do that without me......
I am
Hey..........by the way.........do the women in Norway look as good as they say they do?
OR............................are you the stereotype BMW owner who only dates men?
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Originally Posted by amgdriven
GET AMUSED MY FRIEND
I am
Hey..........by the way.........do the women in Norway look as good as they say they do?
OR............................are you the stereotype BMW owner who only dates men?
I am
Hey..........by the way.........do the women in Norway look as good as they say they do?
OR............................are you the stereotype BMW owner who only dates men?
wow, this thread is getting dirty...
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Originally Posted by amgdriven
You're a BMW guy in a AMG forum.....................yeh, I trying to provoke flame war. That is because you are in the AMG forum..................and I drive a AMG.
Anyway..........................not talking ****.............because I'm not..........but.............congradulations...... ...........BMW has been served for a few years now by the w211 e55..............and Bmw has recently managed to polish a turd.
NOT taking away the performance of the M5...........because I'm not.............but beating all of those cars? dude, come on!
But hey.................I wasn't there.
IF it is as fast as that STAGED video shows....................good
BMW's prize will get served by the E63 very soon and I will go to your forum and show you the video
Anyway..........................not talking ****.............because I'm not..........but.............congradulations...... ...........BMW has been served for a few years now by the w211 e55..............and Bmw has recently managed to polish a turd.
NOT taking away the performance of the M5...........because I'm not.............but beating all of those cars? dude, come on!
But hey.................I wasn't there.
IF it is as fast as that STAGED video shows....................good
BMW's prize will get served by the E63 very soon and I will go to your forum and show you the video
I think you're taking this a bit too personal.
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Originally Posted by Erik
I aint close to getting a heart attack, I am just a bit amused about some of the posts.
Aint defending the M5 either, the M5 can do that without me......
Aint defending the M5 either, the M5 can do that without me......
For the most part people here don't give a ***** about that, I find it interesting because I like cars in general. As a soon to be a M5 owner, I will admit that it's not the a beautiful car by any means and the interior will take A LOT to get used to. I saw the first M5 in NoVA today in black on black, and quite frankly it doesn't look much different than a 545i with SP, while a great machine I'm sure, the looks of the car is not exotic at all.
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I still want to know if it was a tip or not. I have a 6 speed 996 TT and a stage III E55 and I know my E55 will run well against that M6. I just dont see that much of a walk, I can see the M6 beating the TT but did you see the disparity?? I dont care if that car is faster or not just want to make sure the race was real and against a worthy TT.
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Originally Posted by chem0
got your attention? ok..
http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/sho...7&postcount=80
theres a video of the m6 vs. 911turbo on that site somewhere, too lazy to bring it over here for now..
http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/sho...7&postcount=80
theres a video of the m6 vs. 911turbo on that site somewhere, too lazy to bring it over here for now..
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Originally Posted by E55_POWER
I'm getting a M5 in about 2 to 3 weeks...but Erik all the post I've ever read by you are all Mx is basically faster than X car.
For the most part people here don't give a ***** about that, I find it interesting because I like cars in general. As a soon to be a M5 owner, I will admit that it's not the a beautiful car by any means and the interior will take A LOT to get used to. I saw the first M5 in NoVA today in black on black, and quite frankly it doesn't look much different than a 545i with SP, while a great machine I'm sure, the looks of the car is not exotic at all.
For the most part people here don't give a ***** about that, I find it interesting because I like cars in general. As a soon to be a M5 owner, I will admit that it's not the a beautiful car by any means and the interior will take A LOT to get used to. I saw the first M5 in NoVA today in black on black, and quite frankly it doesn't look much different than a 545i with SP, while a great machine I'm sure, the looks of the car is not exotic at all.
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Originally Posted by Erik
Fine, so has Gustav.
The video was not made to win the Golden Globe....... It was meant for entertainement for car enthusiast that respect and reqognize a good performance when they see it.
Allready posted, take a look
The video was not made to win the Golden Globe....... It was meant for entertainement for car enthusiast that respect and reqognize a good performance when they see it.
Allready posted, take a look
1) Gustav does not have an impartial reputation.
2) Video skills - yes the video was entertaining. I was just rubbing you the wrong way for sport. Chill.
3) Video of 0 - XX, yea I saw it. Was nice to just get a link from someone giving information w/o a diatribe on BMW.
Looking forward to seeing what the M5/6 can do. Given what I've read about the break in period and people having engine problems, I really hope people don't actually torque the hell out of them before that break in period is over.
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Originally Posted by Rafal
After owning an E55 which can be driven hard 24/7, why would you stoop down to an M5, which must use "launch Control" once every 10 min to achieve barely what the Beast does all day long? The rest of the time it's no faster than 545i...Plus, it's ugly as sin and not as easy to live with on a daily basis. Be prepared for a major disappointment. It's your money...
that wasnt with LC either
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I'd take the opinion of the M5 more from someone who has also owned the E55. There are a couple of board members here that are doing just that and there word(s) will carry more weight with me. They will get to drive both cars in "real world" conditions.
All the posting from one side or another on this issue can get boring without direct comparisons from impartial sides. I respect the M5 (I used to own an M3) prowess, but I would never ever buy one. Just personal taste and lifestyle choices on my part.
I'm never going to race Nurburgring, Florida doesn't have any canyons, and I like to open my garage door and not feel like saying, "...at least she's got a great personality (a la ugly chick)...but boy can she drive..."
Well...let the flames on each side continue.
All the posting from one side or another on this issue can get boring without direct comparisons from impartial sides. I respect the M5 (I used to own an M3) prowess, but I would never ever buy one. Just personal taste and lifestyle choices on my part.
I'm never going to race Nurburgring, Florida doesn't have any canyons, and I like to open my garage door and not feel like saying, "...at least she's got a great personality (a la ugly chick)...but boy can she drive..."
Well...let the flames on each side continue.
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Originally Posted by skratch77
I think the new bmws look great and I love the styling on the new m6
E90 sales are up over 85% over the e46 when it came out so more people are liking the newer bmw styling than you think.
the v10 has a dip in tourqe in the mid range and then peaks up at 6k there is more tourqe @3k than there is where there launching it.
E90 sales are up over 85% over the e46 when it came out so more people are liking the newer bmw styling than you think.
the v10 has a dip in tourqe in the mid range and then peaks up at 6k there is more tourqe @3k than there is where there launching it.
the E90 is a failure sales wise, go check your numbers. Ask BMW, the sales numbers are posted weekly on roadfly (the old bimmer.org).
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Originally Posted by skratch77
are you that blind to not see the 5 bus lengths that car pulled on the tt?
that wasnt with LC either
that wasnt with LC either
It is from a rolling start, which does not need LC
and an E55 will do exactly the same job on the Porsche, from standstill, rolling start or whatever.No, I am not that blind and actually beat TT on circuit many times, not just watch silly videos with my mouth wide open in awe, pulling my pud.
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Originally Posted by E55_POWER
I'm getting a M5 in about 2 to 3 weeks...but Erik all the post I've ever read by you are all Mx is basically faster than X car.
For the most part people here don't give a ***** about that, I find it interesting because I like cars in general.
For the most part people here don't give a ***** about that, I find it interesting because I like cars in general.
I am foremost a carenthusiast as youselves, my taste goes in the direction of M cars, thats all.
I just react a bit everytime somebody scream about a fake or staged videos everytime they show results they do nok like.
I promiss I start to ignore it. Deal
But based on the reponses here everytime some claim to have outrun an AMG, I would say most people do care, at least those who scream the loudest.....
Originally Posted by E55_POWER
As a soon to be a M5 owner, I will admit that it's not the a beautiful car by any means and the interior will take A LOT to get used to. I saw the first M5 in NoVA today in black on black, and quite frankly it doesn't look much different than a 545i with SP, while a great machine I'm sure, the looks of the car is not exotic at all.
I think you will like it, unless you are to much of an MB driver at heart
Hope you get used to the looks, cause the car will entertain you during driving.When do you take delivery ? I guess you have not driven it either, ?
How do you take the chance to buy such an expensive car without a real test drive in advance ?
About the exotic looks or the lack of it. No it does not look exotic, its not meant to either.
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Originally Posted by DRCrowder
the E90 is a failure sales wise, go check your numbers. Ask BMW, the sales numbers are posted weekly on roadfly (the old bimmer.org).
Source: http://today.reuters.com/busin...C.XML and BMW Press
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Originally Posted by Rafal
It is from a rolling start, which does not need LC and an E55 will do exactly the same job on the Porsche, from standstill, rolling start or whatever.
No, I am not that blind and actually beat TT on circuit many times, not just watch silly videos with my mouth wide open in awe, pulling my pud.
and an E55 will do exactly the same job on the Porsche, from standstill, rolling start or whatever.No, I am not that blind and actually beat TT on circuit many times, not just watch silly videos with my mouth wide open in awe, pulling my pud.
it even pulled faster times in the wrong gear pulls that some mags tested(rolling)never mind if the m5 uses L/C wich 90% of the time the driver wont have to anyway.
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Are you guys blind or something? Take a look at the video I posted. It will answer 99% of your questions... This video was made by the guys that gustav raced against and has the standing start thing, so check it out before continuing this stupid fighting...
Link to the video
Link to the video
