gustav
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gustav
got your attention? ok..
http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/sho...7&postcount=80
theres a video of the m6 vs. 911turbo on that site somewhere, too lazy to bring it over here for now..
http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/sho...7&postcount=80
theres a video of the m6 vs. 911turbo on that site somewhere, too lazy to bring it over here for now..
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Yep, she's the real deal alright, buuuuttttt
Average working Joe running my dyno this week commented, "Mercedes sure seems to be one up on BMW in design, the new ones are so ugly.....and yours really looks nice"
Even the common man can see it.
Average working Joe running my dyno this week commented, "Mercedes sure seems to be one up on BMW in design, the new ones are so ugly.....and yours really looks nice"
Even the common man can see it.
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Originally Posted by skratch77
the tt is expensive to mod tho.giac chip intake and exhaust will cost you 10k
30k for the x50 gt pack and will still be slower than an m6
30k for the x50 gt pack and will still be slower than an m6
X50 package on the 996TT, while still expensve, was around $15k or so.
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Originally Posted by medici78
I don't know where you got your information, but a giac chip, intake and exhaust will cost nowhere near $10k. More like $6k, and this is from one of the most reputabe Porsche tuners in the USA. (Evo)
X50 package on the 996TT, while still expensve, was around $15k or so.
X50 package on the 996TT, while still expensve, was around $15k or so.
the giac level 1 wich boosts 50 hp to the 996 cost 3,500 bucks for the flash why dont you call giac and ask them your self.
my friends father paid 30k to get his tt into an x50
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Originally Posted by skratch77
plus labor
the giac level 1 wich boosts 50 hp to the 996 cost 3,500 bucks for the flash why dont you call giac and ask them your self.
my friends father paid 30k to get his tt into an x50
the giac level 1 wich boosts 50 hp to the 996 cost 3,500 bucks for the flash why dont you call giac and ask them your self.
my friends father paid 30k to get his tt into an x50
But compare a $3500 flashloader to whatever comes out for the M5-M6 and see which comes out better hp/$
You can't buy an X50 package and add it on to a standard 996TT. The only way to get the X50 is from the factory. The price on the X50 package is $17000. To paraphrase you "why don't you call Porsche and ask them yourself"
No arguing the M6 is fast. In fact, it better be, dammit!!! I'm on the waiting list for one at my local dealer.
But I will probably pass if I find a sweet 996TT.
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I doubt that even a (stock) GT2 would be able to beat it.
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Have you noticed ??
In all of the M5 & M6 videos we have seen the V10's all have been from a roll (40+ etc.) I think they excel at higher speeds and will only race at the "roll" which they are moving there mass at manageable speeds to eliminate the competitions torque advantage. Don't get me wrong they will probably beat our E55's in lots of rolling races, but race them from a standstill and utilize our torque advantage is the way to play against these guys. In the muscle car era I owned a Chevy 409 (remember the beach boys song?) in racing the Mopars (426 Plymouths & dodges) I would only race these guys from a "Roll" to offset their superior "Out of the hole" Torqueflite transmissions. These cars literally leaped out of the hole when they Brake torqued and pulled away from me even though our HP ratings were the same.
I am willing to bet that our 1/4 mile times will be better because they have to race from a dead stop. Even with their "Launch Control" they have to rev to 4000 rpm to get up in their torque band. But when all is said and done, THOSE CARS ARE BUTT UGLY, PERIOD!
I am willing to bet that our 1/4 mile times will be better because they have to race from a dead stop. Even with their "Launch Control" they have to rev to 4000 rpm to get up in their torque band. But when all is said and done, THOSE CARS ARE BUTT UGLY, PERIOD!
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Here is another thread from m5board by Gustav...
....that you all might find interesting:
https://mbworld.org/forums/showpost....4&postcount=34
https://mbworld.org/forums/showpost....4&postcount=34
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Regardless of which car is faster, I think it's great that today's automakers are producing cars with so much technology and power. I think it's funny when the older people recall the "good old days" of musclecars, but I feel the good times are NOW. Stock for stock, I bet hardly any 60's-early70's era musclecar could run with todays E55 or M5. Even then, the most powerful ones did not have air conditioning and sometimes not even power steering or power brakes due to the low vacuum condition from lopey cams. Add the fact that the deep gears required were not practical on the highway, and it puts things into even more perspective.
I'm with deaguero (blonde drug enforcement agent?) on the 1/4 mile thing. The SMG is tricky to launch, and I would not be surprised if we romp on the M5's at the dragstrip, but get owned on the highways.
I'm with deaguero (blonde drug enforcement agent?) on the 1/4 mile thing. The SMG is tricky to launch, and I would not be surprised if we romp on the M5's at the dragstrip, but get owned on the highways.
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Originally Posted by Improviz
....that you all might find interesting:
https://mbworld.org/forums/showpost....4&postcount=34
https://mbworld.org/forums/showpost....4&postcount=34
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ALPINA B12 5,7 Coupe #22/57
Originally Posted by amgdriven
I vote...............staged
With so many owner meeting up to run against the M6, do you really belive the owner of a 996 would pretend to loose and have the story posted on several car forums.....
He lost not once but twice.
Even the founder and owner of Koenigsegg cars attended the meeting with his Koenigsegg monster, ........ no he did not race -- that would have been a flat out murder....
On this event the M6 lost some but won most of them.....
Regarding Tip or manuel, I have no clue.
If Gustav check in, he can maybe fill in the answer.....
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ALPINA B12 5,7 Coupe #22/57
Originally Posted by deaguero
In all of the M5 & M6 videos we have seen the V10's all have been from a roll (40+ etc.) I think they excel at higher speeds and will only race at the "roll" which they are moving there mass at manageable speeds to eliminate the competitions torque advantage.
One major reasson for most races go from 40 or so, is that a full LC start is extremly heavy on the clutch.
IMO a race from the roll is much more interessting to see, and tells a lot more about the perfromance than a race from 0.
Both the E55 and the M5/6 996 Turbo++ will reach 40mph in app 3 sec and to me those short seconds is much less important than what will happend in the next 15-20 sec.
I guess its matter of preferances.
