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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 10:12 AM
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So a guy pulls up next to us in a Maserati Grand Sport

It was mall parking lot and he pops out and gives us the "wish you had this " look. While just beautiful....it really can't out perform the 55, cept perhaps in the twisties right?

I believe new E55 even costs more than that....

Would you ever own a Mas??
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 10:23 AM
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No, I wouldn't own another. A long time ago I owned a Maserati Bi-Turbo E and it was the biggest POS car that I ever owned. Typical Italian Trash.
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Jakpro1
It was mall parking lot and he pops out and gives us the "wish you had this " look. While just beautiful....it really can't out perform the 55, cept perhaps in the twisties right?

I believe new E55 even costs more than that....

Would you ever own a Mas??
You should've gave him this look and show them what a real car is all about...E55 K2 buddy!
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 10:45 AM
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The Gran Sport is beautiful... No doubt about that..
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 11:00 AM
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How do you do "wish you had this " look? I'd like to use is some times when I am driving.

Originally Posted by Jakpro1
It was mall parking lot and he pops out and gives us the "wish you had this " look. While just beautiful....it really can't out perform the 55, cept perhaps in the twisties right?

I believe new E55 even costs more than that....

Would you ever own a Mas??
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 12:01 PM
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No contest, the E55 is much faster. Looks are subjective. If you have an E55 you could have just as easily bought a Maserati, as the price difference is not that much. I made my choice and have never "wished" I had a Maserati over my E55.
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 12:03 PM
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Resale is terrible here iin UK and reliability even worse. Nice styling though and the new Quattroporte looks real fine... it aint that slow either.

The guys on TopGear here reckoned is was worthy of consideration.

But give me that V8Kompressor any day ...

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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 04:42 PM
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The E55 should easily beat the Maserati in straight line. I think the Maser is a nice car, and reliability has been quite improved since Ferrari took ownership and stuck some of their parts and technology into it IMO. I can also tell you it has an excellent engine as well!

Of course i'd probably take the E55.
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 04:44 PM
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The Maserati is ok if you like the jelly bean look, to rounded for my tastes. You should feel sorry for him, its to bad you weren't at a red light when he gave you that look!
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 04:48 PM
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The GranSport does not look sporty at all, but hell, I like the interior.

Oh, the joy of encountering ego-driven people.
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Originally Posted by Jakpro1
It was mall parking lot and he pops out and gives us the "wish you had this " look. While just beautiful....it really can't out perform the 55, cept perhaps in the twisties right?

I believe new E55 even costs more than that....

Would you ever own a Mas??
You cant really get a new grandsport under 110k.
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackC230Coupe
You cant really get a new grandsport under 110k.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Maser...QQcmdZViewItem

I'd say 85 miles is new enough

I'm digging the color

But this one looks even meaner in silver with the gunmetal wheels. This one's got a few more miles. 821
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Maser...QQcmdZViewItem

Jakpro, you sure it was a Gran Sport and not the regular Coupe? The two door Maserati aren't necessarily one and the same. The Gran Sport is the, well, sportier version.

Sure is a sweet car, though. But, like I said, if you can afford an E55, the Maserati shouldn't be out of reach.
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by medici78
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Maser...QQcmdZViewItem

I'd say 85 miles is new enough

I'm digging the color

But this one looks even meaner in silver with the gunmetal wheels. This one's got a few more miles. 821
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Maser...QQcmdZViewItem

Jakpro, you sure it was a Gran Sport and not the regular Coupe? The two door Maserati aren't necessarily one and the same. The Gran Sport is the, well, sportier version.

Sure is a sweet car, though. But, like I said, if you can afford an E55, the Maserati shouldn't be out of reach.
Haha, yeah i have actually seen those 2 on ebay before. Ebay is not really a way to judge the market for cars. That first one has been listed for MONTHS already.

This one has over 2k miles and is selling for a bit over 111k.




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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Jakpro1
It was mall parking lot and he pops out and gives us the "wish you had this " look. While just beautiful....it really can't out perform the 55, cept perhaps in the twisties right?

I believe new E55 even costs more than that....

Would you ever own a Mas??
twisties... a SRT-8 Magnum wagon out does the E55.

I would not want to run against a "sports car in the twisties" with my E55. Then again you dont find sports car drivers who know how to drive very often so he likely would have no idea how to drive.
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 06:27 PM
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I've yet to see anythng made in 2005 that looks as nice as that db9 from aston martin
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Originally Posted by CynCarvin32
twisties... a SRT-8 Magnum wagon out does the E55.

I would not want to run against a "sports car in the twisties" with my E55. Then again you dont find sports car drivers who know how to drive very often so he likely would have no idea how to drive.
If he can drive, the Maserati is a great track car. They often are quciker then a 360 Modena around a track.
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 06:38 PM
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The E55 & GranSport (not Grand Sport) are two very different vehicles.

I much prefer my E55, but I gotta admit, I really love the sweet sounds of the Maser going through the gears (no wonder, since Ferrari did the engine design). I also think I'm one of the few that actually likes the Cambiocorsa tranny.

Only way I'd buy a Maser is used - as many have noted, their depreciation is fierce!
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 06:49 PM
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one of our family member has the QuattroPorte... amazing... but I just dont like the rear lights... the red N white... I think it has the 400hp modena engine block.. correct me if I was mistaken.
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 09:40 PM
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Just my two cents worth, I just traded in my 2003 maserati coupe for a 2004 e55 a month ago and I have to say, the maserati was a sweet car. It was more of a sports car and felt and sounded more exotic than the e55, but the quality was not that good, and to be honest, the e55 is faster in a straight line, and is more comfortable qnd versatile 90% of the time. They are two different cars, with their respective strenghts and weaknesses. I preffer the e55 because it is more versatile, but I also have a Saleen S-351 for trackday fun.
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 11:24 PM
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The new Maserati's are much improved over your Biturbo. I think you should give them a chance at redemption. Someone shouldn't judge new Porsches if they had a bad experience with a 924.

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I sat in a Gransport and have driven the new Quattroporte. The Gransport felt a bit too tight for me. The interior had all these great details but the materials felt and looked a bit strange compared to the beautiful leather in the regular models. I would consider it a pretty good alternative to "common-place" Porsches (for instance I literally see 10-12 996's a day and I am on the road for a total of about 45min-1hour). I see maybe 1 Maserati every other week...maybe. The Gransport is a sporting GT car (not a sports car) with a great racing heritage, exotic engine/sounds and handsome body (my opinion). It is not a great alternantive for those too far outside the Ferrari/Maserati dealer network area.

Would I ever get one?...maybe in a moment of weakness ... while intoxicated by the sound of its exhaust combined with the dealer cleverly sliding a contract under my pen.

Is it really a competitor to an E55?...not really...more aimed at a CL55/ BMW 650ci/911. The CL55 would crush it in a straight line race. However, the handling on the Gransport is really impressive (check out Road & Track slalom figures).

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but the quality was not that good,
Coming from an 2003 Maserati owner.

The new Maserati's are much improved over your Biturbo.
Coming from a guy who likes them or coming from a previous owner. Huh, who should I believe more? Anyway, I got burned once by that trash so I'm not going there again. I'd say the same thing about any auto manufacturer if they created such a POS.
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Originally Posted by MB AMG
The E55 should easily beat the Maserati in straight line. I think the Maser is a nice car, and reliability has been quite improved since Ferrari took ownership and stuck some of their parts and technology into it IMO. I can also tell you it has an excellent engine as well!

Of course i'd probably take the E55.
I looked into the Quattroporte (not the Grand Sport) while shopping for my E55 and decided against it. I still think that Quattroporte is hands down the most beautiful four door since I can remember. It still stops me in my tracks when i see one on the road. If not for my addiction to speed, I'd have one.

This month's EVO ran a comparison of the Quattroporte, the Alpina B5 and the Cadillac CTS-V. Very interesting reading. The Q ran their test track faster than the other cars, and even faster than the new M5 they tested. That says something about that car's handling.

Something else that I found interesting about EVO in general - they now dyno their test cars to see how the actual hp compares against the manufacturer ratings. Too many instances of a car's performance not making sense given the advertised hp. Maybe US car mags should consider that as well.
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I dont like the Masi Grand Sport at all. I hunt them! The only one I like is the Quattroporte. Your E55 would have owned him and he would have to be one hell of a driver to take you in the twisties.
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After I found out that Neal wanted a Maserati I lost all respect for them...
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