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Old 11-02-2005, 11:13 PM
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There is no regular production street car that can outrun that car at the strip...PERIOD!!

Production car street tires have absolutely no chance against those Mickey Thompsons. That car is a perfect example of a Drag Racing Rocket; a supercharged V8, with NO2, RWD LSD and drag slicks.

I have alot of drag racing experience and I can tell you that other than 2 Toyota Supras that I have seen (each with 1400 RWHP) that E55 is the fastest street car out there, and I bet he drove his to the track!!!!! They trailered both Supras.

I'm cooking up something with the SL600 to try and match or beat Derrick's time (I want to bring him out of retirement )
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I'm cooking up something with the SL600 to try and match or beat Derrick's time (I want to bring him out of retirement )
Well it's about time Joe! Retire the 996 and bring the SL next time.. Heck your dad ran a 11.7 in it! You can shave that down to low 11's easily. Get the Renntech Airbox like the CL65 we know, and you could well be in the 10's.

See you at the track!


btw, derek..
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Well it's about time Joe! Retire the 996 and bring the SL next time.. Heck your dad ran a 11.7 in it! You can shave that down to low 11's easily. Get the Renntech Airbox like the CL65 we know, and you could well be in the 10's.

See you at the track!


btw, derek..
Taking it as is Friday to Firebird and Sunday to Speedworld.

It's going to the "Mad Scientist" this coming week. I'm told it should be able to run low 10's with the mods. We'll see.
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I'm still in Dallas in recurrent training on the CE750 thru Friday so I'll miss firebird this week! (dang).. but I'll try to make it this Sun.. Plus my car ran better at Speedworld! for some odd reason.

Can't wait to see what kind of mad scientist tricks you did.
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Taking it as is Friday to Firebird and Sunday to Speedworld.

It's going to the "Mad Scientist" this coming week. I'm told it should be able to run low 10's with the mods. We'll see.

strip it completely and then reassemble it later. should shave off half a ton and kick you into low 10s.
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OMG

It has become talk of the town @ here! :v

These country boys @ here would not believe me untill I showed the video

Don't leave us now with your quest accomplished............I've been following your epic for some time now!

Congrats!

(sorry for the delay)
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Absolutely amazing. All the time and money paid off!

Do you use the car at any track events besides drag racing (scca, autoX, etc)?
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Originally Posted by RennTechV12
There is no regular production street car that can outrun that car at the strip...PERIOD!!

I have alot of drag racing experience and I can tell you that other than 2 Toyota Supras that I have seen (each with 1400 RWHP) that E55 is the fastest street car out there, and I bet he drove his to the track!!!!! They trailered both Supras.
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That's a pretty strong statement. (I myself have owned two Supra's. I still have one that's being modified with a bigger turbo.) But if its true I'm certainly proud to be in somewhat of the same league owning this car.

I can only hope this news does for the resale value what it did for the 93-98 Supra. Someone now just needs to make a movie and call it "The Fast and The Luxurious".
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Originally Posted by leloz
Absolutely amazing. All the time and money paid off!

Do you use the car at any track events besides drag racing (scca, autoX, etc)?
I've autocrossed it once but that's it.
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Congrtas Derek!! That is simply amazing. How does it feel to be an drag strip internet celeb? Most forums I lurk knows of the legendary DerekFSU

Simply awesome dude!!
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Originally Posted by RennTechV12
I have alot of drag racing experience and I can tell you that other than 2 Toyota Supras that I have seen (each with 1400 RWHP) that E55 is the fastest street car out there, and I bet he drove his to the track!!!!! They trailered both Supras.

Not to take anything away from Derrick, but I can list off multiple cars just in the DC area that are street driven/legal, driven to the track and run much faster than Derek's car.

There is a notch Mustang in NoVA that runs 9s on 17" MTs. The car looks absolutely stock

Here is my buddy's 96 Z28 (article is from GMHTP): Pages 1 and 2 - pages 3 and 4 - Through the cats, CA Smog legal, 9.76@145.

You need to get out more
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You need to get out more
Actually I get out plenty. My BelAir has a license plate and ran a 8.17@159.

I'm talking about an everyday street car.

While you're blowing everybody else's horn, whenever you're ready to run on your own merit let me know.

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Originally Posted by RennTechV12
Actually I get out plenty. My BelAir has a license plate and ran a 8.17@159.

Impressive.


Originally Posted by RennTechV12
I'm talking about an everyday street car.

That's not what you said. You said street car.


Originally Posted by RennTechV12
While you're blowing everybody else's horn, whenever you're ready to run on your own merit let me know.

No trouble covering your everyday street cars, just let me know when you're on the east coast... just don't bring the Bel Air
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Impressive.





That's not what you said. You said street car.





No trouble covering your everyday street cars, just let me know when you're on the east coast... just don't bring the Bel Air
Fair enough.
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Originally Posted by WayneE
Not to take anything away from Derrick, but I can list off multiple cars just in the DC area that are street driven/legal, driven to the track and run much faster than Derek's car.

There is a notch Mustang in NoVA that runs 9s on 17" MTs. The car looks absolutely stock

Here is my buddy's 96 Z28 (article is from GMHTP): Pages 1 and 2 - pages 3 and 4 - Through the cats, CA Smog legal, 9.76@145.

You need to get out more
Heh, Lil Jeff's Z - haven't seen it since F-Bodies in Vegas '98. Thnx for the memories.
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NICE....10 SEC. WOW!!!! did u run with with 4 gal of fuel, take the spare tire out, nothing in the trunk? if u did'nt try that and run again.
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Congrats Derek!!! I knew you'd do it...dont give up, spray her more!

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There are several other cars that are daily driven that are much faster than Derek. Here is a short list of just 03-04 cobras that are daily driven and their track times. These are by no means Drag cars, they are IRS cobras with some mods. The red ones are daily driven.

9 Second Club

1.Palugi 03TT-------------1.44 9.65 @ 143.55 CFTDSEIM/TT



10 Second Club

2. Buster-----------------1.47 10.00 @ 140.01 CFDSEM/T
3. Strictlytech------------1.50 10.06 @ 135.97 CFLUDEAZ
4. Bad03Cobra----------1.41 10.06 @ 134.00 CFLUTDSEHRAZ
5. Ratt Fink 1-------------1.44 10.10 @ 136.34 CFLUTDSEHGRZ
6. bfoley------------------1.49 10.12 @ 135.58 CFLUTDSEHMVNZ

7. 03flamedcobra--------1.40 10.15 @ 135.00 CFUTDSERNP
8. John@Dynospeed--1.50 10.40 @ 133.00 CFLUTDSEHIMGRZ
9. VENOMOUS03COBRA-1.57 10.47 @ 134.52 CFULDENP
10.hpbyhermann----------1.48 10.56 @ 129.90 ACFLUTDSEHRZ
11.JRS Blown Snake-----1.47 10.58 @ 130.25 CFLUTDSEMGZ
12.Vector------------------1.64 10.58 @ 133.20 CFLUTDSCHMZ
13.Broke7-----------------1.54 10.61 @ 132.00 CFLUTDSEMNP
14.Z-06 Killa--------------1.60 10.66 @ 130.30 CFUDSEGRN
15.F8LBITE----------------1.79 10.79 @ 132.21 CFLUTDEHZ
16.SonicVenum-----------1.49 10.82 @ 125.94 CFUTDSEGRNP

17.seidler-----------------1.64 10.85 @ 124.30 CFTDEMRZ
18.Sprayed Snake03-----1.63 10.87 @ 131.38 CFLUTDEMZ
19.1slosnake--------------1.74 10.89 @ 132.00 CFUDSEHNP
20.blownwhite03---------1.68 10.89 @ 128.60 CFUTDSENP

Modification List

C=Chip
F=Filter
L=Lower Pulley
U=Upper Pulley
T=Throttle Body
D=Drag Radials/Slicks
S=Suspension
E=Catback or X-Pipe
H=Headers
I=Ignition Upgrade
M=MAF
G=Gears
R=Weight Reduction
A=Automatic Transmission
V=Convertible
N=Nitrous
P=Ported Eaton
Z=Aftermarket Blower
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Originally Posted by dgussin1
Congrats Derek!!! I knew you'd do it...dont give up, spray her more!

RennTechV12
There are several other cars that are daily driven that are much faster than Derek. Here is a short list of just 03-04 cobras that are daily driven and their track times. These are by no means Drag cars, they are IRS cobras with some mods. The red ones are daily driven.

9 Second Club

1.Palugi 03TT-------------1.44 9.65 @ 143.55 CFTDSEIM/TT



10 Second Club

2. Buster-----------------1.47 10.00 @ 140.01 CFDSEM/T
3. Strictlytech------------1.50 10.06 @ 135.97 CFLUDEAZ
4. Bad03Cobra----------1.41 10.06 @ 134.00 CFLUTDSEHRAZ
5. Ratt Fink 1-------------1.44 10.10 @ 136.34 CFLUTDSEHGRZ
6. bfoley------------------1.49 10.12 @ 135.58 CFLUTDSEHMVNZ

7. 03flamedcobra--------1.40 10.15 @ 135.00 CFUTDSERNP
8. John@Dynospeed--1.50 10.40 @ 133.00 CFLUTDSEHIMGRZ
9. VENOMOUS03COBRA-1.57 10.47 @ 134.52 CFULDENP
10.hpbyhermann----------1.48 10.56 @ 129.90 ACFLUTDSEHRZ
11.JRS Blown Snake-----1.47 10.58 @ 130.25 CFLUTDSEMGZ
12.Vector------------------1.64 10.58 @ 133.20 CFLUTDSCHMZ
13.Broke7-----------------1.54 10.61 @ 132.00 CFLUTDSEMNP
14.Z-06 Killa--------------1.60 10.66 @ 130.30 CFUDSEGRN
15.F8LBITE----------------1.79 10.79 @ 132.21 CFLUTDEHZ
16.SonicVenum-----------1.49 10.82 @ 125.94 CFUTDSEGRNP

17.seidler-----------------1.64 10.85 @ 124.30 CFTDEMRZ
18.Sprayed Snake03-----1.63 10.87 @ 131.38 CFLUTDEMZ
19.1slosnake--------------1.74 10.89 @ 132.00 CFUDSEHNP
20.blownwhite03---------1.68 10.89 @ 128.60 CFUTDSENP

Modification List

C=Chip
F=Filter
L=Lower Pulley
U=Upper Pulley
T=Throttle Body
D=Drag Radials/Slicks
S=Suspension
E=Catback or X-Pipe
H=Headers
I=Ignition Upgrade
M=MAF
G=Gears
R=Weight Reduction
A=Automatic Transmission
V=Convertible
N=Nitrous
P=Ported Eaton
Z=Aftermarket Blower
Fair enough.. BUT.. BIG BUT...

Are they even remotely close to the W211 in the following:

-safety (this is a 4400lb 5-pax family sedan with #1 IIHS safety rating)
-comfort (it's a Benz!)
-prestige/status (again.. it's a Benz!)
-high speed stability (autobahn engineered)
-workmanship (German attention to detail)
-Chick magnet ability (again! It's a Benz!).

Any clown can take a Dodge Neon or Toyota Supra and spend $$ to make it do 1/4 mile in 9 sec.. who cares? It's not just about speed.. keep the context fellas... It's about the over all car.

Heck my CDI diesel runs a 15.05 @ 93.. not at all impressive until you realize that I get 40 mpg out of this 4000lb sedan! and 738 miles between fillups on a 21 gallon tank!
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Originally Posted by CE750
Fair enough.. BUT.. BIG BUT...

Are they even remotely close to the W211 in the following:

-safety (this is a 4400lb 5-pax family sedan with #1 IIHS safety rating)
-comfort (it's a Benz!)
-prestige/status (again.. it's a Benz!)
-high speed stability (autobahn engineered)
-workmanship (German attention to detail)
-Chick magnet ability (again! It's a Benz!).

Any clown can take a Dodge Neon or Toyota Supra and spend $$ to make it do 1/4 mile in 9 sec.. who cares? It's not just about speed.. keep the context fellas... It's about the over all car.

Heck my CDI diesel runs a 15.05 @ 93.. not at all impressive until you realize that I get 40 mpg out of this 4000lb sedan! and 738 miles between fillups on a 21 gallon tank!
I wasn't saying it's a benz, but he said no other street cars run that fast. lol

Cobras are way heavy though...verts are 3800# and coupes are 3650#.
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my cobra vert weighs 4100lbs so its about 300 lbs lighter. Thats besides the point.

Derek, that is badass man, it came out easy and just flat out hooked. That is the most IMPRESSIVE car Ive seen for sure. luxury and speed is just flat out the best combo there is!
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my cobra vert weighs 4100lbs so its about 300 lbs lighter. Thats besides the point.

Derek, that is badass man, it came out easy and just flat out hooked. That is the most IMPRESSIVE car Ive seen for sure. luxury and speed is just flat out the best combo there is!
it's quite over weight at 4100, are you sure that's not including you?... nevertheless 300lbs is a ton when it comes' to your drag time since weight and hp are the two biggest factors involved. Derek did remove a lot of extra weight, spare tires, etc.. so that's a moot point anyway.

But my point is the MB Is a superior CAR in every other respect to all of those souped up dragsters... as for weight the MB is covered with light weight aluminum body panels, and with all of this it's still a lot heavier.. this is due to the FACT it's designed to actually survive an accident at 150mph.. something that's just not going to happen with a Mustang.

Here is just such an accident where the pax walked away from the W211 (by opening their doors), and the police in the other car died on impact... head on (which is clear to see why), combined speed over 150!
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no I agree with your point, Dereks car is by car the most impressive, I stated that.
And yes, my car is 4100 with me IN it..

so whats next since the n20 is coming off derek? Any plans to do another kind of racing or just enjoy the car after the goal was met?
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Originally Posted by 00SVTdubs
no I agree with your point, Dereks car is by car the most impressive, I stated that.
And yes, my car is 4100 with me IN it..

so whats next since the n20 is coming off derek? Any plans to do another kind of racing or just enjoy the car after the goal was met?
Thanks man. I'll still run the E every now and then without NOS but taking Gid E Up's lead, I've really fell in love with road racing. I've done 26 track days from West Palm Beach to Iowa in the last 3 months with my Noble. It's an amazing rush.
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Thanks man. I'll still run the E every now and then without NOS but taking Gid E Up's lead, I've really fell in love with road racing. I've done 26 track days from West Palm Beach to Iowa in the last 3 months with my Noble. It's an amazing rush.
I agree, I'm going to the Porsche track event here on Sunday. It gives you a great appreciation of not only speed but handling, braking, etc...


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