zumbalak

Well if he doesn't know what blip the throttle means, then why is he arguing about the manual cars?

a_ok2me

krispy - are you saying that, even if the M5 blips for you, you also have to blip a little before the downshift to get a smooth shift?

Improviz

Isn't it ironic that mr. "you should learn how to read" and "you don't know what you're talking about" obviously hasn't read a damn thing about blipping a throttle and doesn't know what the hell he's talking about?!?!

rsteele

No more to say than that? Why waste the space?

vraa

krispykrme and Improviz, good reading yalls debates, but keep the personal attacks to a minimum please. It does nothing to contribute to the discussion.

RezF

WOW! I believe that is a first

cte430

No one loves AMG more than I do, but man that car handles. Alex was nice enough to let me take his car out on the street for a quick drive. The steering, brakes, feel, is in another world. I'm BEGGING MB to move just a little in that direction while keeping the HP and TQ. I've had this conversation with Rob Allen several times and I don't understand why they won't do it. He agrees that the AMG customer is getting younger and younger. For those that won't a super fast and super comfortable car get one of the 600 series cars. Or a regular benz for that matter.

A perfect world would be to keep my E and have a 997S in the garage!! Now, my wife...

Thanks again Alex!!

RezF

cte430,
I think you will start to see the turn in "that" direction, as AMG is now in full control of their models from the ground up, not just slapping a SC and stiffening suspensions as is currently being done. With MBs rear wheel drive mentality, and the awesome minds of german engineers, I am very excited to see the lineup of AMG cars in the next couple of years

absent

According to Rob,the CLS/E63 will be the first cars showcasing the new AMG high performance ideas(BMW style handling and responsiveness while still maintaining superior torque and power).

Nickerz

Improviz rules!

I learn more about cars from reading his debates with fools who dare defy him and his knowledge than I get out of car mags and other sources.

I think your new nickname should be "Google" since you clearly have more info on just about anything than they do! lol!

Keep it up Improviz!
Nick

a_ok2me

Can you get aftermarket suspensions or is the handling the best it's going to get for the current models?

E55_POWER

Anytime!

If AMG truly does go in that direction I would buy another one.

I have to say that driving my M5 everyday, I absolutely love the car now as it delivers a total package for me, my E55 was close but as everyone knows I was never confident around turns and I could not find anything in the "aftermarket" to improve on the handling.

Chris, my wife read my post about the 997 and she commented that if I bought 1, I might as well check into a hotel :p

cte430

That's funny. The other night I was on the computer "building" a Porsche on their website. I heard my wife come up and she kind of saw me exit out of where I was. She said "are you looking at **** again?" I almost said yes, because she'd be more pissed if she knew what I was really looking at!! LOL

WayneE

Alex is right. I really liked the M5. Anyone who says they hate the car hasn't driven one. Anyone who claims to have driven one and says they hate didn't really drive it

No enthusiast who stands to pee could hate the M5 That V10, neck snapping SMG 7spd and incredible brakes are the goods. The car looks good in person, although I do think the interior/exterior of the E55 is nicer (pure subjective, obviously).

I agonized over M5 vs. E55 when I was car shopping earlier this year. I got my E55 in early Aug and I could have waited a few months extra for the M5. In the end, the fact that I have other 'fun' cars swayed me to the E55. The acceleration and comfort were more important than handling and driver involvement.



Agreed... sort of

I think that on a back road, the M5 would be a blast. You'd feel like a hero charging corners, SMG blipping the throttle with each downshift and then striping the pavement on corner exit, slapping the upshift paddle and hazing the tires to the next corner

On the superslab, in the city, or as a commuter, the E55 really shines. The abundant TQ, more comfortable ride and nicer interior all come together as a better overall package (IMO). On a back road, the E55 would give up a little to the M5, but you're talking about super-legal speeds anyway, so I call it a draw there.

Is the M5 a more engaging ride? Of course.

It's not ugly, slow or a POS. No matter how you look at it.

E55_POWER

Chris, I dropped my laptop reading your post...funny as ****! My wife could not figure out why I was laughing so hard. Man, you have *****. If I ever admitted to my wife that I was looking at **** she would probably throw something at me.

Wayne, I have to say that driving Sam's E55 at the track, the torque felt twice as much as the M5's. Interior is just beautiful where the M5's really does look cheap...I just don't know how else to put it. The exterior is still growing on me and it's kinda sad since I already own the car.

04E55 AMG

I just finished up with the guest bedroom so when she kicks you out come on over. You have your own full bath and a spot in the garage for the M5.

I hope you do not mind the 3:30 AM feedings