M5 1/4 Mile Times, which is faster E55 or M5...
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M5 1/4 Mile Times, which is faster E55 or M5...
Folks, I know there have been lots of drama about this beaten to death topic. This coming Friday, I, along with Spero (04E55AMG), and I'm sure others (hopefully WayneE will be there) will be at the track. YES, I'll take my M5 that has had its 1200 mile service (although I still can't figure out how to use LC as I tried step by step according to the service guide).
Be patient for 5 more days folks and we'll settle it.
I promise I won't PhotoChop any slips :p
Be patient for 5 more days folks and we'll settle it.
I promise I won't PhotoChop any slips :p
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we will see, but recently i saw an article autocar i think and the standing Km form m5 is 22.7 maybe with the better launch let it be 22.3 whatever, and the new ML63 is a 23 flat.... How the hell ML63 is so close?
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if you guys get a chance...
can someone run from a dead stop to about 140+ and see which car really pulls away...
we all know the M5 with its high RPM and 7 speeds should win... I just don't really believe from a DIG the results would be as much as seen in the video posted by GUSTAV.
and if someone has a K1, or any chip/pulley E55, please try to run the same race from a stop and from a roll....
I trully believe the videos we have seen from Europe are not the real story.
my assumptions are the following:
from a stop to 140mph, the STOCK E55 will have a margin to about 120 and will loose it around 130+, but not more than 1 car lengths...
from a stop to 140mhp the Chip/PUlley will have a larger margin to about 120 and continue to edge the stock M5 maybe loose it after 140 by half a car..
I think after 150+, the M5 will pull ever harder... the 5 spd will not work in our favor.
these are just my assumptions based on all the post from current M5 owners, videos, magazine reports..
As a future owner of a W211, I really think the E55 will still hold its own around town and freeway driving... which is my primary purpose for this car. I don't plan to take the E55 to Fontana Speedway and lap the 2 mile oval at TOP speed...
can someone run from a dead stop to about 140+ and see which car really pulls away...
we all know the M5 with its high RPM and 7 speeds should win... I just don't really believe from a DIG the results would be as much as seen in the video posted by GUSTAV.
and if someone has a K1, or any chip/pulley E55, please try to run the same race from a stop and from a roll....
I trully believe the videos we have seen from Europe are not the real story.
my assumptions are the following:
from a stop to 140mph, the STOCK E55 will have a margin to about 120 and will loose it around 130+, but not more than 1 car lengths...
from a stop to 140mhp the Chip/PUlley will have a larger margin to about 120 and continue to edge the stock M5 maybe loose it after 140 by half a car..
I think after 150+, the M5 will pull ever harder... the 5 spd will not work in our favor.
these are just my assumptions based on all the post from current M5 owners, videos, magazine reports..
As a future owner of a W211, I really think the E55 will still hold its own around town and freeway driving... which is my primary purpose for this car. I don't plan to take the E55 to Fontana Speedway and lap the 2 mile oval at TOP speed...
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Originally Posted by TopGun32
if you guys get a chance...
can someone run from a dead stop to about 140+ and see which car really pulls away...
we all know the M5 with its high RPM and 7 speeds should win... I just don't really believe from a DIG the results would be as much as seen in the video posted by GUSTAV.
and if someone has a K1, or any chip/pulley E55, please try to run the same race from a stop and from a roll....
I trully believe the videos we have seen from Europe are not the real story.
my assumptions are the following:
from a stop to 140mph, the STOCK E55 will have a margin to about 120 and will loose it around 130+, but not more than 1 car lengths...
from a stop to 140mhp the Chip/PUlley will have a larger margin to about 120 and continue to edge the stock M5 maybe loose it after 140 by half a car..
I think after 150+, the M5 will pull ever harder... the 5 spd will not work in our favor.
these are just my assumptions based on all the post from current M5 owners, videos, magazine reports..
As a future owner of a W211, I really think the E55 will still hold its own around town and freeway driving... which is my primary purpose for this car. I don't plan to take the E55 to Fontana Speedway and lap the 2 mile oval at TOP speed...
can someone run from a dead stop to about 140+ and see which car really pulls away...
we all know the M5 with its high RPM and 7 speeds should win... I just don't really believe from a DIG the results would be as much as seen in the video posted by GUSTAV.
and if someone has a K1, or any chip/pulley E55, please try to run the same race from a stop and from a roll....
I trully believe the videos we have seen from Europe are not the real story.
my assumptions are the following:
from a stop to 140mph, the STOCK E55 will have a margin to about 120 and will loose it around 130+, but not more than 1 car lengths...
from a stop to 140mhp the Chip/PUlley will have a larger margin to about 120 and continue to edge the stock M5 maybe loose it after 140 by half a car..
I think after 150+, the M5 will pull ever harder... the 5 spd will not work in our favor.
these are just my assumptions based on all the post from current M5 owners, videos, magazine reports..
As a future owner of a W211, I really think the E55 will still hold its own around town and freeway driving... which is my primary purpose for this car. I don't plan to take the E55 to Fontana Speedway and lap the 2 mile oval at TOP speed...
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Having a K2 car which pulls hard above 100 mph, I perdict that the M5 will never catch up and I would be pulling on him at any speed.
If we have enough track to keep it safe we will keep the hammer down past the 1/4 mile mark.
Sometimes the track will get upset if we do not shut down once the 1/4 mark is reached.
If we have enough track to keep it safe we will keep the hammer down past the 1/4 mile mark.
Sometimes the track will get upset if we do not shut down once the 1/4 mark is reached.
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Originally Posted by E55_POWER
Folks, I know there have been lots of drama about this beaten to death topic. This coming Friday, I, along with Spero (04E55AMG), and I'm sure others (hopefully WayneE will be there) will be at the track.
I'm planning to come down. I had talked to Spero about bringing my Z06, since Capitol's pad hooks like a $2 *****, but I can bring my stock E for comparison. Last time at Capitol, I ran a 12.20@116 in my E. I have about 5500 miles on my car.
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The M5 won't pull on a K2 car and shouldn't with the K2 mods. If you look at my timeslips with Amen, you'll see that on the last run I trapped 1 mph slower at 116. In other words, I was not pulling on him at 116 and actually LOST mph to him from the 1/8 mile- https://mbworld.org/forums/showpost....4&postcount=25
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Spero, man we'll hit the wall past 1/4 
I can already predict that from a dig the M5 is not gonna catch a K2 car from 0-150, M5 may get closer but the gap will be too great for the M5 to overcome.
I don't believe many folks have driven a K2 car to fell how strong it really is.
Funny thing is my buddy has 2200 miles on his stock 06 E55 and we ran a few times on Sunday. Off the line, that's a given. From a rolling start, both in 1st gear, the M5 actually has the advantage because the E has too much TQ, but the M5 has to rev the **** out of its engine though.
Friday should be fun.
I can already predict that from a dig the M5 is not gonna catch a K2 car from 0-150, M5 may get closer but the gap will be too great for the M5 to overcome.
I don't believe many folks have driven a K2 car to fell how strong it really is.
Funny thing is my buddy has 2200 miles on his stock 06 E55 and we ran a few times on Sunday. Off the line, that's a given. From a rolling start, both in 1st gear, the M5 actually has the advantage because the E has too much TQ, but the M5 has to rev the **** out of its engine though.
Friday should be fun.
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depending on the launch of the M5, it SHOULD start to win at around 100 MPH.
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Originally Posted by BlownV8
Do you mean it will start gaining ground because the E55 won't be caught by 100 mph. In a race to 150 mph from a dig, I think the M5 wouldn't be able to catch the E55 until it reached 130+ mph.
i agree.. i think after 120+ or after passing the 1/4 mark, thats when the M5 should start pulling harder than the E55..
K2 is an obvious power advantage... but I was just wondering on Stage 1, K1 or RennTech 1, meaning just simple pulley and chip.
The LSD is nice, but as posted from various K2 members, the verdict is still out on its actual performance improvement. Headers would be nice too, but pricey.
The point being, is that MAYBE a simple pulley and chip will be able to keep up with the M5, which will run us $3k to $4k. A very nice price to pay for added assurance.
This is yet to be determined and proven and its all assumptions at this point.
If it turns out the M5 beats the stock E55 and pulley/chip E55... more power to the M5, but I'll still buy one.
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Originally Posted by E55_POWER
Spero, man we'll hit the wall past 1/4
I can already predict that from a dig the M5 is not gonna catch a K2 car from 0-150, M5 may get closer but the gap will be too great for the M5 to overcome.
I don't believe many folks have driven a K2 car to fell how strong it really is.
Funny thing is my buddy has 2200 miles on his stock 06 E55 and we ran a few times on Sunday. Off the line, that's a given. From a rolling start, both in 1st gear, the M5 actually has the advantage because the E has too much TQ, but the M5 has to rev the **** out of its engine though.
Friday should be fun.
I can already predict that from a dig the M5 is not gonna catch a K2 car from 0-150, M5 may get closer but the gap will be too great for the M5 to overcome.
I don't believe many folks have driven a K2 car to fell how strong it really is.
Funny thing is my buddy has 2200 miles on his stock 06 E55 and we ran a few times on Sunday. Off the line, that's a given. From a rolling start, both in 1st gear, the M5 actually has the advantage because the E has too much TQ, but the M5 has to rev the **** out of its engine though.
Friday should be fun.
Kim just called and we have the track
She will let us run side by side this time like the old days!!!!!!Start time will be 11am.
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Originally Posted by E55_POWER
Folks, I know there have been lots of drama about this beaten to death topic. This coming Friday, I, along with Spero (04E55AMG), and I'm sure others (hopefully WayneE will be there) will be at the track. YES, I'll take my M5 that has had its 1200 mile service (although I still can't figure out how to use LC as I tried step by step according to the service guide).
Be patient for 5 more days folks and we'll settle it.
I promise I won't PhotoChop any slips :p
Be patient for 5 more days folks and we'll settle it.
I promise I won't PhotoChop any slips :p
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Originally Posted by enzom
It is great that you guys are doing this. I hope the M5's have launch control activated. Please let us know the mileage on the cars if possible. Just wondering what is broken in vs. green.
His M5 has over 1200 miles and LC has been enabled. He will be running with full power
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Have no fear!!!!
We have a guy here in NJ on this list that has ran a 12.07 bone stock at Englishtown Raceway Park NHRA drag stip. He as the official time slip to prove it
The M5's can kiss our **** :p
We have a guy here in NJ on this list that has ran a 12.07 bone stock at Englishtown Raceway Park NHRA drag stip. He as the official time slip to prove it
The M5's can kiss our **** :p
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Originally Posted by MBH
Have no fear!!!!
We have a guy here in NJ on this list that has ran a 12.07 bone stock at Englishtown Raceway Park NHRA drag stip. He as the official time slip to prove it
The M5's can kiss our **** :p
We have a guy here in NJ on this list that has ran a 12.07 bone stock at Englishtown Raceway Park NHRA drag stip. He as the official time slip to prove it
The M5's can kiss our **** :p
I heard that guy is super handsome and smart.
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Originally Posted by 04E55 AMG
Hey Bro,
Kim just called and we have the track She will let us run side by side this time like the old days!!!!!!
Start time will be 11am.
Kim just called and we have the track
She will let us run side by side this time like the old days!!!!!!Start time will be 11am.
As for 0 to 150, I'm not up for that as we would have to do that on RT. 50 or something...not really into street racing anymore as I'm a bit too old for that and I don't really care who's d1ck is bigger per say.
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Originally Posted by TopGun32
i agree.. i think after 120+ or after passing the 1/4 mark, thats when the M5 should start pulling harder than the E55..
K2 is an obvious power advantage... but I was just wondering on Stage 1, K1 or RennTech 1, meaning just simple pulley and chip.
The LSD is nice, but as posted from various K2 members, the verdict is still out on its actual performance improvement. Headers would be nice too, but pricey.
The point being, is that MAYBE a simple pulley and chip will be able to keep up with the M5, which will run us $3k to $4k. A very nice price to pay for added assurance.
This is yet to be determined and proven and its all assumptions at this point.
If it turns out the M5 beats the stock E55 and pulley/chip E55... more power to the M5, but I'll still buy one.
K2 is an obvious power advantage... but I was just wondering on Stage 1, K1 or RennTech 1, meaning just simple pulley and chip.
The LSD is nice, but as posted from various K2 members, the verdict is still out on its actual performance improvement. Headers would be nice too, but pricey.
The point being, is that MAYBE a simple pulley and chip will be able to keep up with the M5, which will run us $3k to $4k. A very nice price to pay for added assurance.
This is yet to be determined and proven and its all assumptions at this point.
If it turns out the M5 beats the stock E55 and pulley/chip E55... more power to the M5, but I'll still buy one.
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Originally Posted by Rock
Just a guess, but I would think that K1 (chip and pulley) would keep you pretty close to an M5 at higher speeds. As Spero and Derek have noted a K2 car should pull significantly on the M5 at speed. K2 cars are consistently trapping at 122-123mph and even at those speeds and beyond they continue to pull like a freight train.
We'll never know I guess cuz I won't drive that fast on public roads...sorry folks, don't mean to be chicken ***** but I just won't do it beyond 120 (and that's if the road is EMPTY)
