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Old 12-01-2005, 10:25 PM
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hey marcus, i think u and absent should met up in spring or summer and have a good old race-- E55 vs M5. i'll even tape it in my little ol C55

hey absent, r u down for the race if marcus agrees?
I was planning to get together since I had the modded to the hilt S600 but my work schedule killed the idea every time.
Maybe this Spring will be more lucky?
Old 12-01-2005, 10:55 PM
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I am down in the Glenview area absent, you just let me know buddy

I'd like to see how my S4 on 100 octane does as well, that should be interesting too.

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Old 12-02-2005, 02:11 AM
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Ok guys....I take your points...IMHO millage makes some difference...

Race same millaged E55 vs M5...to be 100% sure...who is faster...

Understand ME right...I dont want to assume...As a future owner of E55 (6 long months) and I want E55 to be faster as well...

When it comes inn, 1st thing I am going to do is go to a local Street Racing place, where I will 99% find NEW M5 and race with IT...and I will post the videos...

We need to see real stock vs stock races...I find hard beleive that BMW M division is that stupid to make NEW M5 slower the E55 in the straight line...

Let wait and see some real E55 vs M5 videos
Old 12-02-2005, 08:28 AM
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Ok guys....I take your points...IMHO millage makes some difference...

Race same millaged E55 vs M5...to be 100% sure...who is faster...

Understand ME right...I dont want to assume...As a future owner of E55 (6 long months) and I want E55 to be faster as well...

When it comes inn, 1st thing I am going to do is go to a local Street Racing place, where I will 99% find NEW M5 and race with IT...and I will post the videos...

We need to see real stock vs stock races...I find hard beleive that BMW M division is that stupid to make NEW M5 slower the E55 in the straight line...

Let wait and see some real E55 vs M5 videos
Rus - Hopefully we will have some videos tonight. Can't wait to see them.
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Originally Posted by Marcus Frost
I am down in the Glenview area absent, you just let me know buddy

I'd like to see how my S4 on 100 octane does as well, that should be interesting too.

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heres the same guy over at 6speeds that finally set the m5 up right and raced.He wasnt in p500 sport just like I said to my self the first time I watched the vids.

p500s vs tt

car and drivers results sound like a 500hp car also for you that questioned the cars power

0-60: 4.2 sec
0-100: 9.4 sec
1-150: 20.7 sec
1/4 mile: 12.5 sec @ 118 mph

with the weak usa L/C im sure it could get a solid 4 to 60 and a 12.2@120 with the euro L/C

theres a guy over at m5boards that has done over 30 4k L/C so far and is being a test dummy for the clutch

now what do you all have to say about gustuvs m5?maybe some should even send him an appology for all the **** you guys gave him.

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now what do you all have to say about gustuvs m5?maybe some should even send him an appology for all the **** you guys gave him.
Go away troll!
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Go away troll!
so its a ok for an mb enthusiest to start a thread and poke fun of gustuv and talk **** about an m5?

i didnt start this thread I just added what should of been added by the first poster.

its seems that the second any one on here proves someone wrong thats not in favor of an e55 gets pointed out as being a troll

go figure
Old 12-05-2005, 04:20 PM
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You're right Sn*tch, the M5 is the greatest car on the planet and all of us that own an MB are going to sell them to go buy M5's. Someone please do away with this site so we can all go over to the M5board and be b*tch boys for Gustav. Get up off your knees Sn*tch!


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Originally Posted by skratch77
so its a ok for an mb enthusiest to start a thread and poke fun of gustuv and talk sh*t about an m5?
Yes, it is OK, IN A MERCEDES ENTHUSIASTS BOARD, to poke fun at trolls like gustav and you, just as people over at Gustav's M5 board start threads to poke fun at us.

And I'm sure you go over there constantly and criticize people for doing that, now don't you?

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i didnt start this thread I just added what should of been added by the first poster.
What, predicting the future?? He honestly reported what Ray had reported in his first two posts at 6speedonline.com. Expecting him to predict the future and foresee what Ray would post in the future is a bit of a stretch, even for a troll like you.

Originally Posted by skratch77
its seems that the second any one on here proves someone wrong thats not in favor of an e55 gets pointed out as being a troll

go figure
No, it seems that someone who constantly does nothing but post about how great BMWs are, in a Mercedes enthusiasts' forum, is a troll. You are obviously not, in any way, shape, or form, a Mercedes enthusiast, and there are BMW forums for you to post how wonderful BMWs are to your little wannabe heart's content if you'd like.

Your posts here contribute nothing. You are only here to annoy people. All you do is hop into any Mercedes-vs-BMW thread you can find and troll against Mercedes and for BMW, period.

People who do this on your buddy Gustav's board are swiftly banned...have you ever complained to him about that?

Didn't think so. Instead you hop into threads like this and tell us all what a wonderful guy he is...seems like your great defense of freedom of speech only works one way, eh??
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Originally Posted by DJe55
You're right Sn*tch, the M5 is the greatest car on the planet and all of us that own an MB are going to sell them to go buy M5's. Someone please do away with this site so we can all go over to the M5board and be b*tch boys for Gustav. Get up off your knees Sn*tch!


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I've been following the original thread at 6speedonline.com and all I can say is WOW, truly surprising. I have no further comments beyond this.
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Soo, at last, maybe somebody STILL think the 911 Turbo is faster than the M5? Impro maybe
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It is simply lame to say m5 needs 10K miles and it will run stronger. I mean it is really really lame.

I will go plunk down 100K on a car, and wait for about a year so that it will run stronger. Heck if I have other cars, how long do you want me to wait for the m5 to be stronger or faster?

The car has a v10 500hp engine out of the box, and it needs to run strong out of the box. I would undertsand the 1800 mile break in, but that is it and should be it. After that you should be able to load up the car and run it like you stole it.

Imagine if Ferrari or Lamborghini said hey guys spend a few hundred K on our cars, but you gotta drive it 10K miles to get the best performance from your brand new Ferrari this that or your Gallardo. Wouldn't the owners laugh their butts of for that?
For goodness sake how many people actually put 10K miles on their Ferrari over the period they own it??

Sometimes the excuses to defend the m5 are just lame.
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this thread is pretty entertaining to read. Gotta love the circular track of arguing but I think Improviz got it pretty good on skratch

Anyways, about the E46 M3 engine thing, I have had two of them and run them fairly hard from the get go. Nothing crazy but I just gradually got into it and drove it like I was going to before the official breakin mileage. The problem with those engines wasn't anything about how it was broken in, it was about the defective rod bearing that couldn't handle the load over time, Which was fixed a la BMWNA. I did indeed throw a rod through the block on one of mine so I know what's going on with them.

I really can't wait to see some official races of the M5 against the E. I think they should already be tracking them against us instead of complaining about breakin mileage, I know there are plenty of them out there to have some comparisons.

I know that the new V10 uses a lot of oil and requires some special attn but the M5s have been out for a few weeks now and we should really start seeing some results from all the hype. *cough* Gustav anyone?
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Im not annoying, Im stating facts. Cars vs cars just as the above links. Thanks for the BMW links Mr Improviz! FYI I am not involved in the videos above.
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I am having that thank you I was actually very glad to see the correct settings for the BMW M5 in Canada was made (P500S), so it seem to accelerate in par with the Swedish M5 in May. In ran even to the Lamob Gallardo and also tie to a 911 Turbo X50 tuned by Techart 510 HP. So beating the 911 Turbo there in Canada just seemed logical to me.
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Gusto,

the P TT ran away from the m5 if you see the vid again.

The one that kept with the m5 for a while was the 997Cs
it is not a turbo.... just the S...
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Originally Posted by skratch77
so its a ok for an mb enthusiest to start a thread and poke fun of gustuv and talk **** about an m5?



its seems that the second any one on here proves someone wrong thats not in favor of an e55 gets pointed out as being a troll

go figure
they are trolls, why else would be on here posting M car videos, go figure
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Gusto,

the P TT ran away from the m5 if you see the vid again.

The one that kept with the m5 for a while was the 997Cs
it is not a turbo.... just the S...
I think there is an updated video.
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im not even a member over at m5board.I find it funny how bob goes around every board and nit picks races that make the m5 slow and post.Why dosnt he post any of the videos that had the m5 winning races?

like all the ones in turkish highway?

you all made up the assumption that the car gustuv had was a ringer and now that a few more videos are coming out nobody here is saying jack ****.At least over at 6speed and rs6 the people are starting to believe gustuv's car
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Originally Posted by skratch77
im not even a member over at m5board.I find it funny how bob goes around every board and nit picks races that make the m5 slow and post.Why dosnt he post any of the videos that had the m5 winning races?

like all the ones in turkish highway?

you all made up the assumption that the car gustuv had was a ringer and now that a few more videos are coming out nobody here is saying jack ****.At least over at 6speed and rs6 the people are starting to believe gustuv's car

What????
Do you expect him to go around on the internet and find m5 videos for goodness sake?

He is racing an m5 with his own Porsche, and he is posting his own video, where he knows what happened exactly.

What is wrong with that?

People should stop thinking M5 is the best and fastest car out there. It gets pretty lame after a while when there is always a lame excuse to defend the loss of the m5.

Except its winnings and its losses at the same time!
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Originally Posted by skratch77
im not even a member over at m5board.I find it funny how bob goes around every board and nit picks races that make the m5 slow and post.Why dosnt he post any of the videos that had the m5 winning races?

like all the ones in turkish highway?

you all made up the assumption that the car gustuv had was a ringer and now that a few more videos are coming out nobody here is saying jack ****.At least over at 6speed and rs6 the people are starting to believe gustuv's car
I think it's funny that people are unloading the new M5 faster than Worldcom or Enron stock. It says a lot that owners decide to dump their cars soon after taking delivery...hmmm...funny, I don't remember that happening when the first W211 E55's or 996TTs were delivered.

In the immortal words of Flava Flav...DON'T BELIEVE THE HYPE!!!! BOOOOOYEEEEEE!!!


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