BoBcanada

I don't have a scanner but I'll try to take a good picture shortly.

Best run was 12.57 @117.99 MPH. The 60' times are pretty bad on this car as best 60' time was 2.06 with LC.

The car is a conistent 12.5 car with a consistent 117MPH trap after 6 runs.

The biggest problem with these cars are the launch as the LC only bounces off a max 1800 RPM and this car would probably improve 60' times if it can launch at 3500 to 4000 RPM. I can see this car running low 12's with a LC up at 4000 RPM. I've tried the Cruise Control lever and it didn't do anything.

I tried launching the car by just mashing the gas but that just burned rubber too much and I ran a 13.1 with a 2.6 60' time.

Car currently has 1450 miles, and man does this car suck up some gas. I arrived at the track with 1/4 tank and after 4 runs the car indicated 7 miles left...

If there is a way to get LC up higher than 1800 RPM, can someone shed some input please.

E55 guys were consistently running 12.1 to 12.4 stock with a 1.8 60' time with a lower trap speed of 114 to 116. I find these 2 cars to be equal in speed as the E55's Torque advantage gives it a faster 60' time.

One stock E55 ran a 12.6 @ 116 with a 2.1 60' time so I'm just speculating that based on this I find these cars to be fairly close in speed with the M5 winning at high speeds.

As for moddified E55, the M5 I just cannot see it winning at all, i's not even close as 2 K2 E55s were running 11.60 and 11.55 on DR's. With street tires they woudl be a 11.7 to 11.9 car and they were trapping in the 120s.

I'll try to post the slip shortly.

http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=63121

Fikse

ood run! that's great MPH.... was the car spinning the tires at all out of first gear with that 2.0 60'?

WayneE

Bob, did you not catch that this is one of our members and that I was driving his car to run this time?

RezF

Not sure if I follow what you are saying??

WayneE

BoBcanada pasted a post from Alex (E55_Power on this board). We were talking about it in multiple threads, someone even linked to Alex's post in another thread. I was driving Alex's M5 when it ran it's best time/MPH (Alex matched my time in his car later in the day).

I just thought it was funny that he posted it, without even reading the other threads that were at the top of the page on this forum.

a_ok2me

BoBcanada - I don't know anything about drag racing, but are these times with drag tires? I'm still trying to figure out if the M5 isn't all that impressive, or if people still need more time learning how to drive it and giving the car more break-in time.

Still, I can't ignore the times on CD + various other editors. They all seem consistent that on regular street tires, the 60' times of the CLS55 + E55 seem to be the similar as the M5. Then the 1/4 mile times are slower than the M5. But yet, many people are have shown themselves to have far better times than the editors, which I believe. However, it seems like these are on drag tires. I'm not sure. I'm still trying to figure it out. It's a little confusing because I'm not sure if the comparisons are apples to apples because people claim their times on a stock car, but it seems that the tires are not? But, if you're getting those times using drag tires on the M5, then I'm sure that will clear my confusion.

04E55 AMG

Very confusing thread! When you read it you think Bob ran his M5. That is what Wayne was trying to say. Alex posted this thread after our track day event.

E55_POWER

That was me that ran the M5. I didn't have drag tires and I think you have it a bit confused as the CLS55 and E55 have MUCH better 60 times and ability to get MUCH better 60 times than M5 since the M5 can't launch for ****. Hope that clears it up for you.

BoBcanada

I just posted the thread as info sorry for cunfusion, i also posted the original thread at the end.

RezF

OK, now I'm confused. Who, here, is AvusRS6 on M5board?

a_ok2me

Thanks. Actually, I read this other post by jgilbert (link below) and it stated that the M5 60 time is the same as the CLS. I also saw various shows testing the M5 vs the CLS55 and it stated exactly the same results but the times were a little higher for both cars. However, contradictory to all the shows and editors, real life owners of both cars claim that the E55 60 times are undisputably faster. I'm at a point where I'm trying to decide which car to get, other than visuals because both have their +/-. So, I'm leaning towards believing all stories and that the differences, for either cars, are in the driver and the tires. Still a tough choice that's for sure.

https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/128737-car-driver-tests-m5.html

04E55 AMG

E55 Power

blackbenzz

Wow, you had a RS6 too Alex? Man, I want to be like you when I grow up! lol

E55_POWER

You should drive both and make a decision from that and not from what you read here or in the mags. When I bought my E55, I read great things and went for a test drive to see if it really was THAT fast...I bought the car within 10 minutes of the test drive. The RS6 was probably one of 2 cars I was dissapointed with. Strange thing was the RS6 test drove pretty well (of course they didn't let me go into triple digit speeds) but when I owned it and hit triple digits it didn't feel anything like a 450HP car, I added chip and exhaust, it helped a bit but not a great deal as a stock E55 would just walk away with ease at moving speeds. You owe it to yourself to drive them both and really see for yourself. I will say that the M5 felt very sluggish for the first 800 miles or so so keep that in mind. Oh, and the M5 sucks gas WAY more than a K2 car - don't know why.

a_ok2me

I agree. I stopped into "Autobahn MB" in the Bay Area and asked for a test drive. The salesman, Mike, was a scavenger. I dressed all scrappy and parked my car outside the lot so that I wouldn't get scammed as a dumb guy with money. He looked to see if I had my M5 as I had claimed, but he couldn't find it. So, he blew me off and didn't give me a test drive. Never will I buy a car from there! Anyone who services there, please say that Mike's a bottom dwelling scavenger for me - thanks.

The exterior looks between the M5 and E55 is a draw for me. Both are nice, but nothing spectacular. Interior wise, the new non driver-oriented flat dash on the M5 is not traditional BMW and looks like an old Cadillac. It hate it. Anyway, in the end, I think the MB is more focused towards my daily driver needs because I wouldn't mind giving up handling for comfort and the torque is nice. But then again, I'm feeling tempted to wait until the E63 comes out.

WayneE

Alex is right.

The new M5 is really nice and it also looks a lot better in person. For some reason, it's not very photogenic I didn't pay much attention to the interior details. The car is fast. My car was only trapping 115-116 and Alex's car trapped 118. The tq of the E55 gets it off the line, but the US-spec LC cripples the M5 only allowing 2.00 60' times. Once you're rolling, the M5 takes off like a rocket.

I think that on the street, it will come down to driver/conditions... but hey, nobody here races on the street

e55 baller

<<If there is a way to get LC up higher than 1800 RPM, can someone shed some input please.

I am sure some tuner will put together a program to increase this to 3800 rpms or something along with fuel/timing map changes. Get DRs (guess you would need smaller wheels too), air intake, exhaust, headers....I would expect to see in 6-18 months N/A E60s running high 11s...by then hopefully a half dozen E55s will be in the high 10s no nos. Dreamin

Jspeed

Came across something interesting regarding the M5 today. I was speaking to a tuner here in UK about car tuning in general and he told me that he has an E60 M5 which he has already messed about with. He modified the software to give 550bhp, up from the stock car's dynoed 526+bhp! The interesting thing is that he claimed when he tried using 95 octane fuel (as opposed to 98), the car's performance deteriorated drastically. Seems that the ECU automatically changes to a much less aggressive setting and I was thinking to myself: could this be the reason for the M5's inconsistent performances so far? However, good news is that he was pretty sure his stage 2 E55 (ECU + pulley) was faster than his tuned M5. :p

BenzoBoi

Good run...

stevebez

Jspeed - the crowd in the UK you refering to - is that DMS Automotive... ?

I am getting an E55 and am tempted to go for a pulley and chip in Jan.

Rgds Steve.

Jspeed

Yes, that's them. PM me if you want more info on their pulley setup.

TopGun32

OR

E63/CLS63 with 7 speed AMG turning... in 6 to 18 months... people will be looking to modify the 6.3 motor...

E55 RUSS

IMHO after 3000 miles break inn period the LC should works like EURO cars...or there is some problems...

E55_POWER

Unless there is a 3000 mile service I'm not aware of, I don't see how the LC will go over 1600RPM.

E55 RUSS

Thats would suck...someone ask BMW why is that???