these Kleemann wheels are driving me crazy...
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Originally Posted by ClayJ
I also think tire pressure may have something to do with it. I try to stay above 40psi as well. The only high-end forged wheels that I have heard about alot of problems with are the Lorinsers....
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must b uncomfy and sacrifice traction
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i run 37f 35r
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Originally Posted by Fady
But would you not expect that Kleemann would approach a highly reknowned wheel manufacturer to put together a wheel that met their required design? So you would hope that this would be a company that specializes in this sector - whoever they are.
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i like the kleeman design (turbine wheel) but i like my hre's more
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'05 E55TK, '00 Brabus/Kleemann 5.8 GCab, '05 CLK DTM
40 psi may not be crazy, I just found out that my tires are at 36 all around. Going to repair this wheel, run 40 all around (maybe 39f and 41r) and see what happens.
Believe me, I know all about HRE. I've owned many sets of them on several cars. I had 20" 945r on this car before I decided to switch to something more comfortable. I wouldn't dream of buying another set of IForged wheels
absolutely not! I like the Radenergie but not in 20". I dunno, we'll see....I suppose there are worse problems to have
Believe me, I know all about HRE. I've owned many sets of them on several cars. I had 20" 945r on this car before I decided to switch to something more comfortable. I wouldn't dream of buying another set of IForged wheels
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Sounds like they are just plain weak wheels. Stick with what you know and replace them with HRE's if you havent had a problem with them. Better yet, check out those sick Radenergie R5's!
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'05 E55TK, '00 Brabus/Kleemann 5.8 GCab, '05 CLK DTM
I love the R05 but I don't want to run 20's anymore. Screwed up the comfort factor. I think they only come in 20's, otherwise I'd hop on them.
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Originally Posted by silversurfer
40 psi may not be crazy, I just found out that my tires are at 36 all around. Going to repair this wheel, run 40 all around (maybe 39f and 41r) and see what happens.
Believe me, I know all about HRE. I've owned many sets of them on several cars. I had 20" 945r on this car before I decided to switch to something more comfortable. I wouldn't dream of buying another set of IForged wheels
absolutely not! I like the Radenergie but not in 20". I dunno, we'll see....I suppose there are worse problems to have ![Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif)
Believe me, I know all about HRE. I've owned many sets of them on several cars. I had 20" 945r on this car before I decided to switch to something more comfortable. I wouldn't dream of buying another set of IForged wheels
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Originally Posted by silversurfer
40 psi may not be crazy, I just found out that my tires are at 36 all around. Going to repair this wheel, run 40 all around (maybe 39f and 41r) and see what happens.
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It is not logical to run the same pressure in aftermarket wheels as stock sized units, they need a bit more pressure for protection etc etc. I personally run about 41-42 in my own wheels (20" forged) and have no issues with traction. As far as the ride goes, with 30 and 25 series aspect ratio tires the comfort is already compromised somewhat, so a few lbs psi in the tires is not going to make a difference in comfort that can be comporable to stock.
Good luck once again, hope we helped somewhat.
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On my street cars I don't go lower than a 35 aspect ratio, and prefer a 40, for comfort purposes. I also don't run up in the 44+ psi range anymore, for comfort purposes. I've got a few cars where I wanted to go with 19's or 20's, but didn't because I didn't want to ruin the ride that much. Plus 1 = piece of cake, plus 2 = lose a little, plus 3+? You are going to lose alot of ride comfort, period. That's been my experience.
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Originally Posted by ClayJ
On my street cars I don't go lower than a 35 aspect ratio, and prefer a 40, for comfort purposes. I also don't run up in the 44+ psi range anymore, for comfort purposes. I've got a few cars where I wanted to go with 19's or 20's, but didn't because I didn't want to ruin the ride that much. Plus 1 = piece of cake, plus 2 = lose a little, plus 3+? You are going to lose alot of ride comfort, period. That's been my experience.
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Originally Posted by silversurfer
I love the R05 but I don't want to run 20's anymore. Screwed up the comfort factor. I think they only come in 20's, otherwise I'd hop on them.
Understood, in that case I would say go back to HRE's as you are just going to continue to have problems if you have bent four already without doing anything different than with the HRE's. Good luck to you, I have bent many rims and I know how bad it sucks and what pain in the *** it is.
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I'm considering iForged wheels. What problems have you had to make you not want them again?
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Originally Posted by silversurfer
IForged (to me) = Horrendous customer service on 2 sets of wheels. Will never go back to them ever again ![Mad](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/mad.gif)
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1. Its not good for clients to deal directly with iFORGED, their primary focus is designing and manufacturing wheels, not accomodating individual sales calls. Its best for prospective buyers to choose a dealer that feel comfortable with and go through them. Dealers are better equipped to answer the host of emails / phone calls / instant messages / etc that go hand in hand with wheels sales.
2. iFORGED has had some "less than stellar" dealers in the past, ehich hurt their name. Choosing a reputable dealer is key.
Its funny man, you are just doomed when it comes to aftermarket wheels!! Did you ever damage your OEM wheels??? (I know, I know cruel joke. Lol)
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'05 E55TK, '00 Brabus/Kleemann 5.8 GCab, '05 CLK DTM
I had my my own wheel business for a few years and thus didn't need help from another dealer. IForged was just awful on their service, deadlines, and quality. No middle man would've mediated that situation (and many others I've heard about) - if Vince is still a part of that company, I wouldn't recomend anyone to buy IF.
Actually, I've got perfectly fine personal experiences with HRE, Lorinser, Brabus, SSR, Sportec, BBS, IntroForged (IF's parent company), Antera, Kinesis, etc...it's just these Kleemann wheels which seem to be rather tricky....
Actually, I've got perfectly fine personal experiences with HRE, Lorinser, Brabus, SSR, Sportec, BBS, IntroForged (IF's parent company), Antera, Kinesis, etc...it's just these Kleemann wheels which seem to be rather tricky....
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So which wheels you reccomend top get for Black E55???
I was thinking TS6 (not anymore), Iforged (No after this thread)...Now I only think about HRE or R05 or whatever they are called...
I want to fit 255/35 front and 285/30 rears...
I was thinking TS6 (not anymore), Iforged (No after this thread)...Now I only think about HRE or R05 or whatever they are called...
I want to fit 255/35 front and 285/30 rears...
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Originally Posted by M5 RUS
So which wheels you reccomend top get for Black E55???
I was thinking TS6 (not anymore), Iforged (No after this thread)...Now I only think about HRE or R05 or whatever they are called...
I want to fit 255/35 front and 285/30 rears...
I was thinking TS6 (not anymore), Iforged (No after this thread)...Now I only think about HRE or R05 or whatever they are called...
I want to fit 255/35 front and 285/30 rears...
The HRE and RADENERGIE are great choices, ZONE is a nother. really its all dependent on what type of "look" your going for. (sporty, luxury, mix, etc).
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Originally Posted by ClayJ
On my street cars I don't go lower than a 35 aspect ratio, and prefer a 40, for comfort purposes. I also don't run up in the 44+ psi range anymore, for comfort purposes. I've got a few cars where I wanted to go with 19's or 20's, but didn't because I didn't want to ruin the ride that much. Plus 1 = piece of cake, plus 2 = lose a little, plus 3+? You are going to lose alot of ride comfort, period. That's been my experience.
On a street car, it really depends on the width of the wheel/tire. You can't make a blanket statement that smaller than a 35 aspect is too short.
I have 30 aspect ratio rears on 19" wheels on another car, but they are 345 width, so they still have a LOT of sidewall. As a matter of fact, I'm swapping to 355/25 19s on those same wheels and they will still have plenty of sidewall.
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Originally Posted by M5 RUS
I want a sporty-luxury look...I like some HRE's and Re (what ever they called)...btw I've asked you about this on your site...
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BBS about the strongest (and lightest) - that's why you see them on so many race cars - IMO. The new CF wheels may replace magnesium-aluminum-titanium alloys for both strength and weight purposes...but still a little bit unproven as a new technology. There are custom wheel manufacturers out there that turn out great stuff. Remember, Ronal currently makes as much as 50% of the OEM and aftermarket wheels worldwide (kinda like Brembo and brakes)....
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Which wheels are the STRONGEST???...
Our roads are not that good![tard](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/tard.gif)
Our roads are not that good
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I purchased 20' TS 6 Kleemann wheels for a cls 55, and on my maiden voyage from the dealer in SF to LA, the wheels hds bends in them and I had them repaired. I then got a flat tire--more bends. So I sold them and replaced them with one piece forged wheels. The problem seems to be that the core of the Kleemann wheel is forged, but not the rim, which is spun aluminum, and not nearly as strong as the forged core. When I call Kleemann about them, they suggested that I should only use them on Sunday to and from church and then only if there were not pot holes along the route. The Kleemann TS 6s are great looking but not for everyday driving.