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Old 12-10-2005, 10:32 PM
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'05 E55TK, '00 Brabus/Kleemann 5.8 GCab, '05 CLK DTM
these Kleemann wheels are driving me crazy...

I've now bent my 4th one in 2 months!! My driving habits are no different than when I had the 20" HREs on and I didn't bend one of those (and I had less sidewall too!)

Brandon (at Kleemann) says that I've got to take it easier on the bumps but I can't change my roads and I'm not going to adjust my driving style because of weak wheels. I can't get any more sidewall than what I've already got ... maybe I need to overinflate my tires?

I might have to sell these things
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'03 G500, '13 G63, '17 GLS63,
Wow, that sux to hear. What size are they?
I'd just sell them and look into a different style. As awesome as they look, it wouldnt be worth it if you keep having to repair them due to your roads.
Old 12-11-2005, 08:52 AM
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How do you know when they are bent and not just the alignment gone out?
What pressures do you run - maybe if your a bit underinflated the rim has less protection?
Just a thought.
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'05 E55TK, '00 Brabus/Kleemann 5.8 GCab, '05 CLK DTM
let's just call it a hunch...

but I'm pretty sure it's not an alignment issue...
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Nah, it's just an optical illusion.
Check alignment
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get hre's
i live in la and drive over the worst **** ever
they hold up just fine
my sidewalls are tiny too: 235/35/19 and 275/30/19
Old 12-11-2005, 08:26 PM
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'05 E55TK, '00 Brabus/Kleemann 5.8 GCab, '05 CLK DTM
I'll probably just keep the stocks on for the rest of the Seattle winter, then make a decision. Really too bad, because I think the Kleemann design compliments the car better than anything else I've seen.
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Originally Posted by silversurfer
but I'm pretty sure it's not an alignment issue...
I think since you've had 4 failures I would feel that something's amiss. I beat the s--t out of my rims and have never even gotten a scratch. My guess is that there might be quality control issues regarding the hardening process of the alloy used. Suggest to Kleemann that they might want to test your wheels. If they balk I would go back to the HRE's. (I like them better anyway)

I've been driving forged wheels for years and have only seen this when I ran over a 6 inch curve going 50 mph.
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'05 E55TK, '00 Brabus/Kleemann 5.8 GCab, '05 CLK DTM
good suggestion, I will ask Kleemann if they would take my wheels back for testing, although I have a feeling what their answer will be.

Will probably just straighten this one out and Ebay the whole set.
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Originally Posted by silversurfer
good suggestion, I will ask Kleemann if they would take my wheels back for testing, although I have a feeling what their answer will be.

Will probably just straighten this one out and Ebay the whole set.

I am sure Cory & Brandon will take care of you. Those guys ROCK
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Originally Posted by silversurfer
good suggestion, I will ask Kleemann if they would take my wheels back for testing, although I have a feeling what their answer will be.

Will probably just straighten this one out and Ebay the whole set.
let me know when u decide to sell, my cousin owns a wheels shop, he might b interested

thanks and good luck
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03 CLK500, 04 X3, No 07 GT3RS :(
I unfortunately have to report that you are not alone. I've dented the lips on 3 of my TS6s, and I found out a couple weeks ago during a flat tire repair that the fourth wheel now has a crack in the lip with no signs of dents or impact. I was told that I need to just drive slower and that I should just buy new replacement wheels.
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Can you replace just the outer rim? I was able to do that with some Fiske (Dinan) wheels a while back.
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What psi are your running, and what are your tire / wheel specs (width, aspect ratio, etc)?

Hopefully we can make a few suggestions to help. Wheel damage of any sort can be a pain to deal with.
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'05 E55TK, '00 Brabus/Kleemann 5.8 GCab, '05 CLK DTM
19x9/19x10 with SO3 PP 245/35/19 and 285/30/19

Don't know the pressures off hand.

I'd love to hear whatever you've got to suggest 'cause I'm pretty done with these. The fact that there's someone else on this board who has had the same experience with the same product tells me a lot (Frisco - it may be of interest that two of my bent wheels have caused flat tires). I'm a huge Kleemann supporter, love Brandon and Cory, and have used their K2 + other mods on three cars now. But there seems to be an inherent problem with the wheels.

I'm looking at other products, but nothing is striking my fancy that much.
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Glad that you guys made this topic...cause I was thinking of getting those wheels...

I bend my 18 Lorisner LM5 wheels...

Which wheels are the strongest???
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'05 E55TK, '00 Brabus/Kleemann 5.8 GCab, '05 CLK DTM
There is no strongest wheel (when it comes to road wheels - race wheels are another story - I've got magnesium wheels on my Audi that a grenade wouldn't bend). Obviously a forged wheel will outperform a cast wheel, but just like in my situation, even a forged wheel can be soft sometimes. I had a set of the 20" Lorinser LM5 on my CL55 and never had any issues (driving on the same roads as I am now). Those Lorinsers are a cast wheel, the Kleemann wheels are forged - go figure

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My technical English is not that good...So CAST wheels are stonger the Forged ones or???

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Originally Posted by silversurfer
19x9/19x10 with SO3 PP 245/35/19 and 285/30/19

Don't know the pressures off hand.

I'd love to hear whatever you've got to suggest 'cause I'm pretty done with these. The fact that there's someone else on this board who has had the same experience with the same product tells me a lot (Frisco - it may be of interest that two of my bent wheels have caused flat tires). I'm a huge Kleemann supporter, love Brandon and Cory, and have used their K2 + other mods on three cars now. But there seems to be an inherent problem with the wheels.

I'm looking at other products, but nothing is striking my fancy that much.
hre.
i prefer buying product from companies that only specialize in that sector. kleeman is good for s/c and power upgrades, they r not known fro wheels.
get hre's, there are plenty of designs to choose from and u can customise them any which way.
they r strong, light and look good.

good luck
btw: no i do not work for hre, just tryin to help u out
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Originally Posted by M5 RUS
My technical English is not that good...So CAST wheels are stonger the Forged ones or???
forged wheels are stronger than cast
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Thanks you...Are HRE Competition wheel are even more stronger then regular or they afre just lighter???
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Originally Posted by AMG_55
hre.
i prefer buying product from companies that only specialize in that sector. kleeman is good for s/c and power upgrades, they r not known fro wheels.
get hre's, there are plenty of designs to choose from and u can customise them any which way.
they r strong, light and look good.

good luck
btw: no i do not work for hre, just tryin to help u out
But would you not expect that Kleemann would approach a highly reknowned wheel manufacturer to put together a wheel that met their required design? So you would hope that this would be a company that specializes in this sector - whoever they are.
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03 CLK500, 04 X3, No 07 GT3RS :(
My wheels are 19x8.5/9.5 with 235/35 and 265/30 PS2's, and I maintain the pressure at 36-38 psi.
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Originally Posted by silversurfer
19x9/19x10 with SO3 PP 245/35/19 and 285/30/19

Don't know the pressures off hand.

I'd love to hear whatever you've got to suggest 'cause I'm pretty done with these. The fact that there's someone else on this board who has had the same experience with the same product tells me a lot (Frisco - it may be of interest that two of my bent wheels have caused flat tires).
Your tire sizes are good (not stretched etc etc), I would have to say the pressure could be contributing to the issue. We recommend all of our clients maintain 40-42psi in 25, 30, and 35 series tires. I have personally found that at 40+ psi most forged wheels are VERY hard to damage.

As for alternatives there are many, HRE is a great choice however it is not the only choice. You can also entertain MODULARE, AVUS, AUTO-COUTURE, iFORGED, KINESIS, and many others. I would however recommend a forged wheel.

Good luck with everything
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I also think tire pressure may have something to do with it. I try to stay above 40psi as well. The only high-end forged wheels that I have heard about alot of problems with are the Lorinsers....


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