BiTurboAmg

If you had to pick one or the other which you guys add to your car? Has anyone done the K2 without the LSD? I just want to know how much of a difference the LSD makes.

dragonAMG

You'll need the LSD.

04E55 AMG

Went with K2 for a few months before getting the LSD. I see a huge difference when launching the car(you can be more aggressive and hook up faster). Even with LSD if you hammer it you will spin the rears with over 600TQ.

I would say LSD before TB, having more power that you can not use makes no sense. I tried calling you btw

Jakpro1

No brainer....LSD. It would be like adding more power to drive on ice. (throttle body adding more power to already traction strapped vehicle)

You'll love LSD...trust us!!

Vetluver

Have you heard of any improvement numbers with the throttle body? Also, who makes it?

I've heard it's a ***** to put in and not worth it if you're not going to upgrade the pulley ecu etc.

VelocitE55

It shouldnt require a shred of thought, LSD without question!

04E55 AMG

Kleemann just finished TB from v12 Bi-Turbo that is a complete swap out. Pain in the a$$ to install since SC needs to be removed.

Per Kleemann, they saw 25-30 RWHP & RWTQ when testing. Not a bad boost in power

BMWEATR

both!!

BiTurboAmg

I called you too. I just got your VM and didnt leave a message. I talked to Cory finally I dont know why but my home phone and my office phone kept saying the line is no longer in service. Used my cell phone and got Cory right away.

DJE55

I don't see why you guys all say "LSD without a question". I haven't seen one thing that shows a better 60' time with LSD. You are going reach far better results with a set of tires than you are with LSD. I saw Spero's car run with LSD and 19's and I can tell you, it ain't worth the money and it's not helping as much as these guys think. Look at the 60' times that these guys are getting, it isn't any better than the guys without. Sorry to be so harsh but this has been talked about for a long time with no one having any numbers to back up what they are saying. If anyone doesn't believe what I'm saying, just go to the track and let's see how your 60' compares.

BiTurboAmg

thats what I am trying to find out. If it is going to be night and day difference or not. I am not going to the track all the time infact I dont even know if the one here is till open?? I just want to have some fun and some extra power and be able to run with some 996 turbos and maybe an sl65 or the likes of. Nothing hard core just for fun.

04E55 AMG

I agree with my man Derrick if you run a DR type tire. I have noticed when running with my S03's (more of a all around street tire) a difference before and after. If you run a tire on your rims like Derrick (between DR and street) you will see less of a difference since the tire makes a big difference.

E55_POWER

I have to agree...when I got LSD in my CL55, although the car left 2 tire marks instead of 1, the power felt it was a bit diminished...it's hard to explain but my K2 CL55 with LSD, best run was 12.4....a stock E55 runs that.

Derrik runs GREAT 60 times and he doesn't have LSD.

04E55 AMG

We never figured out why that CL whith all those mods never ran better then a 12.4. The CL600 w/Renntech ECU and no LSD ran a 11.7X.

cdiken

I know my axle ratio is 2.68:1, I think the same as the E55.

Are there other differences in the "pumpkin?"

I have a Carlsson C-Tronic on the way that will put me at around 425 lb-ft of torque.

Bone stock, I have a lot of issues with traction, often accidental spins just during normal driving that trigger ESP.

If I try to leave from a stop quickly, the ESP shuts the car down, and with ESP off the wheelspin is so ridiculous you can't give the car more that 1/4 throttle.

I know my little 16" tires suck, too. Gonna fix that soon.

medici78

IIRC, the E55 uses a the diff from the SL's, so the Kleemann E55 LSD would not be the same thing. However, they probably make it for your application anyway.

DerekFSU

I had K2 without LSD but did not ever run K2 without LSD but with DR's. I believe the LSD does make a difference. You also don't need to get into the engine internals to do an LSD.

DJE55

I have had better 60' numbers than what you've had with lsd and drag radials. That should not happen if the LSD helps that much. I'm not saying to get the TB, I'm just saying not to waste his money on LSD. Not one guy on here has had a better 60' with it. I have seen most of the guys on here posting times with their LSD's and it's not any better than a guy running R compound tires. I'm not even running a true drag radial. If it can't produce numbers, it's not helping you.

DerekFSU

DJ, your car & your driving ability may simply be a freak of nature. I would not have run a 1.6 without an LSD in my opinion. Beyond just the launch, the wheel spin up to 50mph would have hurt.

Now, get off the board, install nitrous, and get some 10's!!!

DJE55

You have a bigger set than me, not to mention wallet. I am way to chicken to pull that trigger.

e55 baller

I'd speculate on the strip it wouldn't do much -- maybe 0.1 on the 60-foot which is actually not bad but from having 439 rwtq stock and 559 rwtq now I can say that the LSD for me was a safety measure.

There were times when I would punch it stock w/o LSD w/ trac off stock w/ BFGs and I almost put the car into a ditch and wrecked it since it did wild 180s on me. I just couldn't have that.

From zero - on the street -- I could basically smoke the tires until they popped with DRs...now at least I do not feel totally out of control although I rarely turn off trac control still because of the scare. Now I can probably smoke my PS2s for about 50 feet and at least I don't go into another lane or do a 180 or 360!

So what does this Kleeman TB cost? $1500? Another $1000-1500 to install?

SLK55R

Isn't the LSD supposed to help with coming out of turns etc? Its seems everyone is only looking at it from a standing start perspective.

e55 baller

I am sure for an Autox perspective you would definitely see improved lap times but I dare not autox my fat pig :-)

DerekFSU

Come on, do it. I won the Novice class in the pic below. It does better than you might think.