Offset with 19x10 and 285/30...
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Offset with 19x10 and 285/30...
Guys...I really need you help...
I my E55 lowered via Carlsson lowering module...and I am in the process of buying (paid) a set of Carlssons 1/16 UL 19's wheels...
The rear wheels comes in 10x19 stock offset ET40...
Carlsson reccomends with those wheels to use E33 offset for 211 E55 but does not specify with which tyres 275/30 or 285/30...
My tuner says it a 285 is the best combo and they would fit perfect...but some people have mentioned that it might RUB...
So I told him about this problem and asked him to speak with Carlsson about these confusion, he called them and asked and the reply was "If it will rub then you'd have to do some bodywork"
So I dont know what to do NOW...
Anyone knows for sure which offset do I need to use with Lowering module if I go with19x10 and 285/30 tyres ???
Been suggested by Rafal that ET38 would be good...and ET33 could RUB when tyres fully pressed...
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Michael
I my E55 lowered via Carlsson lowering module...and I am in the process of buying (paid) a set of Carlssons 1/16 UL 19's wheels...
The rear wheels comes in 10x19 stock offset ET40...
Carlsson reccomends with those wheels to use E33 offset for 211 E55 but does not specify with which tyres 275/30 or 285/30...
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My tuner says it a 285 is the best combo and they would fit perfect...but some people have mentioned that it might RUB...
So I told him about this problem and asked him to speak with Carlsson about these confusion, he called them and asked and the reply was "If it will rub then you'd have to do some bodywork"
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So I dont know what to do NOW...
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Anyone knows for sure which offset do I need to use with Lowering module if I go with19x10 and 285/30 tyres ???
Been suggested by Rafal that ET38 would be good...and ET33 could RUB when tyres fully pressed...
Thanks
Michael
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Originally Posted by M5 RUS
... he called them and asked and the reply was "If it will rub then you'd have to do some bodywork"
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Get the 7 mm spacer that they are recommending. Do the compression test before driving hard. If it rubs, remove the spacer and end up with ET40 which will not rub for sure, and it will look better than the skinny 265 Contis on ET39 stock. Your rear tires will now be 9mm further out than stock, is that so bad?
The body mods Carlsson is talking about are the same as what Kleemann recommends to get their aggressive offsets: file the plastic bumper on the inside where I pointed, but be careful not to remove too much or it will fall apart!
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Thanks Rafal...Looks like you are the only one knows anything about this Offset staff...
ET40 wont look to good imho...I'll try ET33 first...then ET35 and then ET 37...If it will continue rubbing...
Or may be I shhould forget about 285/30 and go for 275/30...it would work with ET33 for sure...
ET40 wont look to good imho...I'll try ET33 first...then ET35 and then ET 37...If it will continue rubbing...
Or may be I shhould forget about 285/30 and go for 275/30...it would work with ET33 for sure...
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Originally Posted by M5 RUS
Thanks Rafal...Looks like you are the only one knows anything about this Offset staff...
ET40 wont look to good imho...I'll try ET33 first...then ET35 and then ET 37...If it will continue rubbing...
Or may be I shhould forget about 285/30 and go for 275/30...it would work with ET33 for sure...
ET40 wont look to good imho...I'll try ET33 first...then ET35 and then ET 37...If it will continue rubbing...
Or may be I shhould forget about 285/30 and go for 275/30...it would work with ET33 for sure...
I had SL55 wheels with ET33 and 275/35/18 tires and they looked very aggressive and did not rub-you will be happy with that look, especially with a nice dish on the UL.
Carlsson manufactured wheel comes with ET40 and I am not sure how many different spacers Carlsson has: ET33 is 7mm spacer, ET35 is 5mm, ET37 is 3mm. You can ask but they will cost you money and each set has to be screwed in to the back of the monting plate.
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Rafal...There was a mistake...
Front wheels are ET40 and rear ET45...
Therefore as Carlsson reccomends 10mm spacers front and 12mm REAR...
If wish spme wheel sponsors or tuners whould comments as well
I think I am going to try E33 with 285/30 first...or may I should go for 275/30 and forget about it
Front wheels are ET40 and rear ET45...
Therefore as Carlsson reccomends 10mm spacers front and 12mm REAR...
If wish spme wheel sponsors or tuners whould comments as well
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I think I am going to try E33 with 285/30 first...or may I should go for 275/30 and forget about it
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I've jsut checked with Kleemann here the offersets they use with their 19's wheels...same sizes of wheels and tyres..
B4 FA 245/35-19
RA 285/30-19
SIZE Offset
9,0x19 42 112/5/66,6
10x19 42 112/5/66,6
Adapters Offset
FA 8,5x19 DS10 32
RA 10x19 DS15 27
So if they use 27 offset with their 19x10 and 285/30 tyres...ET 33 should be FINE or I am missundertsnading something...
B4 FA 245/35-19
RA 285/30-19
SIZE Offset
9,0x19 42 112/5/66,6
10x19 42 112/5/66,6
Adapters Offset
FA 8,5x19 DS10 32
RA 10x19 DS15 27
So if they use 27 offset with their 19x10 and 285/30 tyres...ET 33 should be FINE or I am missundertsnading something...
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Originally Posted by M5 RUS
I've jsut checked with Kleemann here the offersets they use with their 19's wheels...same sizes of wheels and tyres..
B4 FA 245/35-19
RA 285/30-19
SIZE Offset
9,0x19 42 112/5/66,6
10x19 42 112/5/66,6
Adapters Offset
FA 8,5x19 DS10 32
RA 10x19 DS15 27
So if they use 27 offset with their 19x10 and 285/30 tyres...ET 33 should be FINE or I am missundertsnading something...![crazy](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/crazy.gif)
B4 FA 245/35-19
RA 285/30-19
SIZE Offset
9,0x19 42 112/5/66,6
10x19 42 112/5/66,6
Adapters Offset
FA 8,5x19 DS10 32
RA 10x19 DS15 27
So if they use 27 offset with their 19x10 and 285/30 tyres...ET 33 should be FINE or I am missundertsnading something...
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Stay on the safe side or this uncertainty will kill you: make a decision and get 245 ET30 and 275 ET33 and be happy. 95% of guys have that set up.
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Originally Posted by M5 RUS
Chees...you are the one who made want 285 and now you say go for 275/30
Are you sure about body work ???
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Are you sure about body work ???
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Therefore, I am telling you to get 275 instead, which has a more curved side wall 5mm narrower tread on each side, otherwise you will get rubbing, which will require thinner spacers or body work.
Surely, you are smart enough to see the difference.
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Ah, i remember one of the forum members having the same problem. Most likely you can avoid rubbing by using a thinner spacer; which we did for his car.
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Michael, i will discuss your case with Carlsson Germany and Carlsson N.A. Hopefully i can help you out.
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Michael, i will discuss your case with Carlsson Germany and Carlsson N.A. Hopefully i can help you out.
285/30 tyres installed offset ET33...
In a mean while my tuner ordered 10mm and 8mm adapters...So I can try ET35 or ET37 later...
Or may be I should just roll the fenders, cause with ET33 offset the wheels would look much better...
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so what should I buy for new wheels?
This is a thread full of great information, I will have to try and absorb it as I look for my next wheels. The stock are fine but now that I'm changing tires I am thinking of going "whole hog" and getting after market plus1 set up. So do I pick the HRE C21 or HRE 547 or even the HRE 842's and ...what size?
Also what are the best tires (size and brand) to go with these?
My caveats...I don't want to roll the body arches at all, and I don't want any rubbing...and I would like a good lip. Color (my E55 is obsidian) has to be "quiet", no bling, grey/gunmetal/body color all subtle shades are fine.
The May 06 Modified Lux&exo mag has adverts showing E55's on various great looking wheels...one set is from Tirerack (savini SV1)...wheelpower has Radenergie 20" on a CLS would these fit?
You guys already know so much on this front...hopefully you can save me a great deal of time - Does anyone own the Radenergie series perhaps (R5,10 or 20)?
Also what are the best tires (size and brand) to go with these?
My caveats...I don't want to roll the body arches at all, and I don't want any rubbing...and I would like a good lip. Color (my E55 is obsidian) has to be "quiet", no bling, grey/gunmetal/body color all subtle shades are fine.
The May 06 Modified Lux&exo mag has adverts showing E55's on various great looking wheels...one set is from Tirerack (savini SV1)...wheelpower has Radenergie 20" on a CLS would these fit?
You guys already know so much on this front...hopefully you can save me a great deal of time - Does anyone own the Radenergie series perhaps (R5,10 or 20)?
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I'm still waiting to hear back from Kinesis what my 19 9 & 10's are at ... they guy I originally worked with is no longer there.
My invoice from them is confusing. For the rears, for example, it says the usual 5x112... then 0.125 and 66.7. For the front it says 5x112 1.325 then 66.7.
I don't see the offset part...
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My invoice from them is confusing. For the rears, for example, it says the usual 5x112... then 0.125 and 66.7. For the front it says 5x112 1.325 then 66.7.
I don't see the offset part...
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Originally Posted by Loren
I'm still waiting to hear back from Kinesis what my 19 9 & 10's are at ... they guy I originally worked with is no longer there.
My invoice from them is confusing. For the rears, for example, it says the usual 5x112... then 0.125 and 66.7. For the front it says 5x112 1.325 then 66.7.
I don't see the offset part...
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Loren
My invoice from them is confusing. For the rears, for example, it says the usual 5x112... then 0.125 and 66.7. For the front it says 5x112 1.325 then 66.7.
I don't see the offset part...
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Loren
That would make sense by looking at your photos!
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Originally Posted by Rafal
Are you sure the front is not 1.125" =ET28.6 and Rear 1.325" = ET33.65?
That would make sense by looking at your photos!
That would make sense by looking at your photos!
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I'm considering the 19x9.5 AMG twin spoke style that is on the SL models to go on my '04 E55. What would the offset need to be on a 9.5 rim and 285 for the rear. I believe factory offset on this rim is 31 - would that not be enough to prevent rubbing?
Any help is appreciated!!
Any help is appreciated!!
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You need to read this thread...
ET35 without lowering and ET38 with lowering...with 285/30
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I switched back to Pirelli P Nero 275/30 for rear in order to avoid any rubbing and having wheels to look more agressive...with ET33...extra 100 euro...
ET35 without lowering and ET38 with lowering...with 285/30
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I switched back to Pirelli P Nero 275/30 for rear in order to avoid any rubbing and having wheels to look more agressive...with ET33...extra 100 euro...
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On a 10" wide rim - I agree with the 35 offset, but on a 9.5 inch, would it not be fine down to say 28-30 offset, since your losing 1/2 in rim width??
My 2 cent ? ( 1/2in= 12.5mm/2(half space outer & 1/2 space tucked))
12.5/2 = approx 6mm less than 35 would equal 29. Am I imagining this or am I in the ballpark?? Someone have experience with the 9.5 rim or is everyone using 10"s rears?
Thanks in advance
My 2 cent ? ( 1/2in= 12.5mm/2(half space outer & 1/2 space tucked))
12.5/2 = approx 6mm less than 35 would equal 29. Am I imagining this or am I in the ballpark?? Someone have experience with the 9.5 rim or is everyone using 10"s rears?
Thanks in advance
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