ENDSMTG

Ok Ladies....Here's the deal. Had my beast out this weekend over at a friends house. Another one of his friends shows up with a C6! He's talking big caca about how he just got back from Kentucky where they had this big Corvette reunion. Probably a mass recall, but that's another thread. Anyway he challenges me to a drag for $2,500 at a local strip. Of course I'm thinking that's $2,500 less I gotta give Cory for the K2. So I tell him "the Heartbeat stops here, don't bring that BS to the track unless you are serious!" So my question is how should I approach this race? He's checking to see when we can get track time, so I have time. Should I be launching with ESP on or off? Power braking at 1000 to 1100 RPMs? And should we race the 1/4 or shorter? I guess I could just go and find DerekFSU's car and call it a day, but his was black and mine is silver....

DJE55

Go pick up a set of RA1's for the rear's. Heat em' up a little, bring the rpm's up as high as you can without rolling through the lights and hammer it. If it's a stock C6 or slightly tuned, you'll have no problem. Just make sure you leave ESP on just in case. It's hit or miss with it off and with 25 hundies on the line you doni't want to go up in smoke.

BoBcanada

Check out his car tho I think those things with headers different cams + naws ( especially check for naws) can be fast.

I'd go to the strip to practise and then race em.

Fikse

you "should" win, but it's a close race.... I've seen stock C6's trap 114MPH, so you don't have any room for error....

I would think you would do best of 3 or 5 for that kind of cash, so an error or fluke doesn't ruin the race....

lot of things to consider, are you racing heads up, who ever get's to the end first? or whoever has the best ET? big difference here, if you're head's up, you better practice your reaction time.... since that would probably determine the race.....

I would run with ESP on, and just slowly hammer it off the line and let the car do the rest.... this will protect you from spinning and ruining your run for the get go...

the C6 will probably be so hyped up, and he'll launch with traction control off a spin for a bit.... if so, you'll win....

Richard Galing

Follow the advice above and get some seat time at the track, get a check on his C6 setup,...If he's bone stock you've got a fighting chance at the drags; H/C, LT headers & 3.90 will get him in the mid-high 10s, and if he's blown I suggest you run don't walk away!

http://www.extreme-johnson-racing.co...argeC61035.wmv
ProCharger D1, headers, stock internals.
Currently - 10.22 @141

ENDSMTG

Thanks Gentlemen...all advise very much appreciated!

AmenMercedesGo

Send him my way!

DJE55

It's not a ZO6 so it doesn't have a chance at 10's unless he has a turbo or procharger and a lot of work. We had two guys in C6's at our track event that had gears, headers and other work and out of about a billion passes I think one of them ran 11's once.

WayneE

That was Jimmy and Patrick. They both had long tubes and catbacks. Stock tires on both cars, Jimmy ran 11.9 and Patrick ran 12.0. Both cars are pretty new and both guys are coming from high HP WRXs, so they were trying to figure out how to drive manual tranny RWD cars

I've seen a handful of guys with H/C C5s in the 10s, so it's definately possible with a C6. These are guys really laying it down in the first 60, with 1.4-1.5 short times.

Based on what I've seen, a stock E55 with a good driver will beat a stock auto or manual C6.

Jakpro1

My take.....

Unless he is the stupidest man on earth, he is not going to run around with a bone stock C6 challenging everyone. He's got some type of mods going on whether he admits it or not. First guess would be the mighty NOS and that can dangerous man.

Unless you really have launching down at the track, I would not be plunkin down 2500$. Worst case, I would run him best 2 outta 3.

A *****ty track or a bad launch and you are looking at high 12's to low 13's. Now if you have your launch down (which is where she makes her money....torque out the hole), then lay that Vette down at the track and get it on video for us.

Also agree with what they said above....get some STICKY tires. Some drag radials or something. Helps A LOT!!!!

Good luck.

ENDSMTG

I definetly think he had something done in regards to a chip! From what I recall, he owned a newer Z and was claiming to have beat vettes then. Now all of a sudden he shows up with the C6, talking major sh*t. Two out of three sounds like the right race to me. I wouldn't be as concerned with the beast losing an edge to heat. I also would rather do it now, since temps here in Chi-town are still in the 60's. If we have to wait until July, when temps can get into the 100's, I'll just get the K2 and take him out of his misery.

toro4me

i feel like i am watching PINKS on speed. and i really don't understand.

why would anyone race for money or pink slip, unless they know 110% what each other's car is got??

WayneE

Because that's part of the fun. Negotiating and playing games is all part of the race. Winning isn't always about having the faster car.

ENDSMTG

Hence another reason to belong to this forum.....to get feedback from others that may have been in a similar situation. I have learned more from the input of forum members than I could find in Car & Driver or Road & Track! Those publications don't elude to proper launch techniques, temps at the track or what tires to use....etc, etc.

Richard Galing

The car in the video is a C6 A4 and ran 10.35@134 (584rwhp/532rwtq on 8psi) and currently 10.22@141 on 12psi, I stated he's running a ProCharger D1SC!!! STOCK LS2 internals, Dynatech headers, 3200 Yank stall...work done by MTI. Cartek Racing's C6 H/C with 3.90s were running 10s last year, other tuners have followed; ECS, A&A, LGM and APS & STS just released their C6 twin turbo kits.

DJE55

And your point is? I said without some type of power adder it's not getting into the 10's. The car you're talking about is running boost. That's all stuff you'll see, hear or whatever. You'll be able to tell. If it's just bolt-on's on a C6, it's not getting into the 10's. That was my point. I know their is a lot of Vettes out there running turbos or prochargers that are in the 10's. We have a couple in and out of the shop that I go to.

toro4me

so u mean, i can enter the game with a 10 sec civic, but drive it like its 12.5 sec during negotiation. and in the last run where it counts, i will prevail, and take the other dood's ride??

i still dont get that.

toro4me

yes, but it only helps when that guy has a stock C6.
we dont know what he is got in his car.

btw imo stock to stock u will win if nothing goes wrong.

ENDSMTG

Nor, does he know what I have.....which by the way is nothing, other than green filters and a V1!

However, I can say that he does not seem to be up on AMG vehicles. The reason why I say this is b/c he kept asking if I was a V8 or V12? He may not even know that we are S/C! Once I told him that we have V8's, he was sooo game to go! His manner did not elude to him playing lame duck, so thats why I felt it best to consult with "The Forum" to get more info.

newton22

Wow you guys have some nice $$ to play around with.

Stock for stock, it would be close as other have said. Rememeber though, this is a LS2 C6, a couple grand gets it a couple seconds off the quarter. Make sure you inspect thoroughly.

Or just K2 it behind his back.

ENDSMTG

WayneE

Street racing is about never showing what you really have in the car. If you're racing a slower car, you beat him by a bumper or you'll never get another race

If you really screw with someone on the street, you will find yourself looking down the barrel of a gun.



If you lined your E55 up next to my C5 Z06, you'd have no idea it's not stock. You can't hear my current blower (SQ-Trim, swapping to a loud T-Trim ) at all and I have a stock exhaust on it. It does run 10s, though

The Vortech SQ stuff is nice because the blowers are really silent. Makes for a stealthy ride

DJE55

Your roll bar is a dead give away. Also, I don't think anyone running for 2500 bucks isn't going to look under the hood. Once that happens, you're giving me cars. BTW what tires do you run at the drag strip in the Vette? Are you running skinnies up front?

WayneE

Damn it, you know the drill



I've run stock wheels with DRs and CCWs with ET Streets. I'm going back to 18x12 rear wheels and 345/30 18 DRs and sell my CCWs.

AmenMercedesGo

I have ran 1.70s , 60fts and 11.99s (STOCK) repeatedly. Tip 1) Drive around water box. 2) Back into water box, don't spin in it, just pull out 6 ft from it with ESP off spin the tires 4,000 to 5000rpm in first. 3) put car back in drive two carlenghts from staging punch it. Tires should hook up. 4) Turn ESP on, stage turning on 1st top bulb, place car in neutral slightly rev it to clean out load up, place in Drive, stage, power brake to your comfort level, GO!

At a minimum 60ft should be 1.88 or something mechanical with the track or car is wrong. Always try more that one Drag Strip. They are all different. Also on the way to the track stop and run the car hard a few times to get the car computer adjusted to hard driving. Should hear the car exhaust tone change as car coast to a stop. Tire pressure should be between 30 and 32 in rear and hi in front at least 36.

Last secret. Raise the hood in staging, leave it up until you run and while car is parked open sun roof and windows with REST button on Temp set to HI. This will pull heat out of engine. GOOD LUCK.

IF ALL ELSE FAILS SEND HIM MY WAY!