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Old May 29, 2006 | 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Ted Baldwin
...........For the AMG V8K engines ASP, Kleemann, Brabus, Hennessey, Carlson, MKB etc all modify the crankshaft pulley by adding an outer ring to it. The diameter of the outer ring determines the degree of boost and is largely responsible for any significant differences in HP gained between the different companies. ECU tunning then modifies this from a safety standpoint by making sure A/F ratios are proper and your engine is not running too lean. This is all. The appearance of the ASP pulley above is exactly the same as appearance of the Kleemann pulley and those of other tuners.

.............The smaller pulley pictured above is a smaller waterpump pulley that is neccessary with the Hennessey and ASP pulleys because the larger diameter of those modified Crank shaft pullies cause them to rub against the stock water pump pulley when installed. It is not usually needed with the Kleemann and Renntech set up.

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Doesn't the factory crankshaft pulley have an outer ring as well? If you have a picture of the factory vs. Kleemann and or renntech crankshaft pulley can you post it. There was one on the forum, but I can't find it...
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Old May 29, 2006 | 09:53 PM
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.............I don't know the belt size as I did not do the actual install myself. The shop that did it ran into the same problem of needing a slighly larger pulley with Hennessey pulley. I was already using a Kleemann pulley with the stock belts. I then upgraded from the Kleemann pulley to the Hennessey pulley and that was when I needed a larger belt. The shop then measured the stock pulley and purchased three additional pulleys larger than it. They used the one that worked. I am suspecting that the ASP and Hennessey pulley's are the same, at least in size.

...........the picture posted above by IMA55R2 of the ASP pulley also shows the stock pulley. All ASP did was to add the outer ring. Notice the mercedes benz star on the base pulley. So in that picture are views of both the stock and aftermarket pulley.

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Old May 30, 2006 | 02:37 AM
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Going to look for Dayco belt as well...

Found good deal on ASP pullies

http://www.k1motorsport.com/index.htm

Anyone knows anything about this company ???

Or

May be some sponsors on this site sell ASP pullies ???

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Old May 30, 2006 | 12:38 PM
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Old May 31, 2006 | 03:32 AM
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Albert...

Told ASP about belt problems and they told I need to use

K080510 belt not Dayco...:confused:

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Old May 31, 2006 | 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by M5 RUS
Albert...

Told ASP about belt problems and they told I need to use

K080510 belt not Dayco...
..........M5 RUS, if you want the pulley upgrade the just do it. You simply need a slighly larger belt, dayco or no dayco. You are over planning this.

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Old May 31, 2006 | 09:25 AM
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Ted...you dont know my issues...

I am not in US and not sure if would be able to find this belt at all here...

I want to prepare and to get everything at once and not to wait another 2 weeks till the belt arrives...especially if I am sending this those pullies to German dealer and want him to install it...
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Old May 31, 2006 | 11:05 AM
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Sorry guys but I getting confused even more...

ASP just told ME that

Dayco does not make a 51.5 long belt. There part number is 5080510 . My
guess is the Gates belt is 51.0 long as this is the part number.


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Old May 31, 2006 | 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by M5 RUS
Sorry guys but I getting confused even more...

ASP just told ME that

Dayco does not make a 51.5 long belt. There part number is 5080510 . My
guess is the Gates belt is 51.0 long as this is the part number.


M5 RUS one last time ASP does not know what they are talking about. Look at my previous post that is the part number they gave me at the beginning, 5080510 is to short the only belt manufacturer I was able to find that made a slightly larger belt was dayco 5080515. The last three numbers are an approximation of the belt lenth if you want to get technical the actual belt length is 51.6 inches but the sizes are displayed in increments of five.

Here you go all the 8 rib belts they manufacture.http://www.mvreader.com/multiview/da...ltsSearch.y=14
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Old May 31, 2006 | 06:27 PM
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...........you can get virtually any kind of belt you want from these guys......http://www.beltsforanything.com/site6.php

.............problem is you do not know what belt you need. It is very easy to tell once you begin the install. rflow306 tells you you need the dayco 51.6 belt. ASP tells you you need another belt. Belts are cheap, just buy both belts and use the one that works.

..............alternatively, you may wish to leave ASP or Hennessey pulleys alone altogether and buy Kleemann or Renntech pulleys where the belt size is not an issue.

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Old Jun 1, 2006 | 04:59 AM
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Thanks for your help guys !!!

Will get ASP pullies and Dayco 515 belt, if it too long then stock one would work or which ever belt ASP supplies...

They said they sold 3 kit last months and never heard any issues with belt
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Old Jul 21, 2006 | 07:12 AM
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what results?

Originally Posted by M5 RUS
Thanks for your help guys !!!

Will get ASP pullies and Dayco 515 belt, if it too long then stock one would work or which ever belt ASP supplies...

They said they sold 3 kit last months and never heard any issues with belt
M5 RUS - is this install complete now? Ho did it go? any issues on removing the pulley (some people say the Fan must come out too)? And not to pick a sore point again - but which belt did you use in the end?

any before and after? Pictures or/and Dyno?

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Old Jul 21, 2006 | 10:57 AM
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Soory bro but I didnt buy one YET...waiting for NEW EVO pulley price ??? If its good I'll get them instead if not then on Monday will orde ASP...
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Old Sep 29, 2006 | 10:42 PM
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ASP supplied me with belt #K080510 and guess what? It was to short no matter how hard my tech tried he could not get it to go on.

I'm going to search for Dayco #508515 tomorrow at my local part stores hope they sell that brand.
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Old Oct 12, 2006 | 02:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Quick E55
ASP supplied me with belt #K080510 and guess what? It was to short no matter how hard my tech tried he could not get it to go on.

I'm going to search for Dayco #508515 tomorrow at my local part stores hope they sell that brand.
I was able to install belt #K080510. It was a pain in the butt, but I managed to get it on. I had to use prybar and had the belt slide over the tip of the prybar and onto tensioner pulley.
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Old Oct 12, 2006 | 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by MarkoCL55
I was able to install belt #K080510. It was a pain in the butt, but I managed to get it on. I had to use prybar and had the belt slide over the tip of the prybar and onto tensioner pulley.
That's weird... Mine went right on very easy.
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Old Oct 12, 2006 | 09:58 AM
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Your worst nightmare...
The one ASP sent did not work for me, had to get Dayco belt, went on perfect!!
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Old Oct 12, 2006 | 10:28 AM
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Ted B, I think you may have touched on this a few posts up: am I correct that the Kleemann pulley (and RennTech, for that matter) are designed to work with the factory belt. I.E. there is enough adjustment in the tensioner to accommodate the increased diameter of the Kleemann pulley? I am about to jump on a Kleemann pulley and want to get the correct belt (if necessary) before I storm off to the shop for installation. Thanks! P.S. Anyone with a Kleeman pulley upgrade, please chime in!
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Old Apr 3, 2007 | 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by E55 RUSS
Going to look for Dayco belt as well...

Found good deal on ASP pullies

http://www.k1motorsport.com/index.htm

Anyone knows anything about this company ???

Or

May be some sponsors on this site sell ASP pullies ???
Does K1 ever answer their phone or what?Anybody else ever try too call this place?
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Old Apr 3, 2007 | 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Jrocket
Does K1 ever answer their phone or what?Anybody else ever try too call this place?

Have you tried ASP directly......make them the offer of $799.....I paid $850.00

http://www.aspracing.com/intro.htm
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Old Apr 4, 2007 | 12:26 AM
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Originally Posted by rflow306
Has anyone tried the asp or Hennessy Pulley on a cls55 ?. I know this is the wrong forum but it's the busiest.
That is "crazy talk" on "the wrong forum"!

Last I checked the E/CLS base powerplant/driveline are all the same.

CLS55's have a "look". Do you think "evil" fits the bill?

TK
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Old Apr 4, 2007 | 02:35 AM
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I ordered the ASP pulley a while ago and they sent it with the proper Dayco belt. The car PULLSSS harder than ever and does so consistently without any supercharger shut-off. Great mod! Do ittttt.
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Old Apr 4, 2007 | 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Jrocket
Does K1 ever answer their phone or what?Anybody else ever try too call this place?
best way to get hold of them is via email...
they are etailer... no retail store...
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