Looking to get the garage floor done
#2
Originally Posted by relisysj4
Anyone use Home Depots garage floor installation....they use Rust Oleums Epoxy Shield....
Any other ideas?
Any other ideas?
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#3
Penny wise pound foolish, you get what you pay for.
I don't think the retail products will live up to what we hope the product should do.
I did the concrete etching on our garage and the the paint/epoxy peeled. My dad is **** when doing things in detail. He did it completely step by step on their garage, following all recomdations for preparing the concrete. Same bad end result. Looked great for a few months. One winter and it already doesn't hold up.
I think you just got to pay up and let a pro do it with a professional grade product.
I am taking possession of a new house end of this year, and I definately will not do it myself again with anything Home Depot sells.
With the winters, road salt, sand, etc being brought in by the cars and being ground into the epoxy with the weight of the tires/car on top, I think it really was too much to expect a retail product to hold up.
I don't think the retail products will live up to what we hope the product should do.
I did the concrete etching on our garage and the the paint/epoxy peeled. My dad is **** when doing things in detail. He did it completely step by step on their garage, following all recomdations for preparing the concrete. Same bad end result. Looked great for a few months. One winter and it already doesn't hold up.
I think you just got to pay up and let a pro do it with a professional grade product.
I am taking possession of a new house end of this year, and I definately will not do it myself again with anything Home Depot sells.
With the winters, road salt, sand, etc being brought in by the cars and being ground into the epoxy with the weight of the tires/car on top, I think it really was too much to expect a retail product to hold up.
#4
Originally Posted by loungeliz
Penny wise pound foolish, you get what you pay for.
I don't think the retail products will live up to what we hope the product should do.
I did the concrete etching on our garage and the the paint/epoxy peeled. My dad is **** when doing things in detail. He did it completely step by step on their garage, following all recomdations for preparing the concrete. Same bad end result. Looked great for a few months. One winter and it already doesn't hold up.
I think you just got to pay up and let a pro do it with a professional grade product.
I am taking possession of a new house end of this year, and I definately will not do it myself again with anything Home Depot sells.
With the winters, road salt, sand, etc being brought in by the cars and being ground into the epoxy with the weight of the tires/car on top, I think it really was too much to expect a retail product to hold up.
I don't think the retail products will live up to what we hope the product should do.
I did the concrete etching on our garage and the the paint/epoxy peeled. My dad is **** when doing things in detail. He did it completely step by step on their garage, following all recomdations for preparing the concrete. Same bad end result. Looked great for a few months. One winter and it already doesn't hold up.
I think you just got to pay up and let a pro do it with a professional grade product.
I am taking possession of a new house end of this year, and I definately will not do it myself again with anything Home Depot sells.
With the winters, road salt, sand, etc being brought in by the cars and being ground into the epoxy with the weight of the tires/car on top, I think it really was too much to expect a retail product to hold up.
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I used the Home Depot 2-part epoxy kit - it worked well for me. Its durable and looks as good as when I first did it in December of 04 (17 months ago). It has lost a slihgt amount of gloss from the multiple cleanings but it has not lifted anywhere.
I followed the instructions religiously - I prepped teh floor well - took the whole Satuday to do it, and then painted on Sunday - project took two whole days to complete - but then I am pretty thorough.
I have used a variety of cleaners on it - some are very aggressive, and it still looks brand new. I have welded in the grage, used it to build cabinets, you name it.
My only regret is that the floor is not 100% flat. Condensation from our car's AC units puddle in a few places and discolors. I then have to clean it once a week.
Here are some pics taken when it was completed in '04.
I followed the instructions religiously - I prepped teh floor well - took the whole Satuday to do it, and then painted on Sunday - project took two whole days to complete - but then I am pretty thorough.
I have used a variety of cleaners on it - some are very aggressive, and it still looks brand new. I have welded in the grage, used it to build cabinets, you name it.
My only regret is that the floor is not 100% flat. Condensation from our car's AC units puddle in a few places and discolors. I then have to clean it once a week.
Here are some pics taken when it was completed in '04.
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Originally Posted by siswati
I used the Home Depot 2-part epoxy kit - it worked well for me. Its durable and looks as good as when I first did it in December of 04 (17 months ago). It has lost a slihgt amount of gloss from the multiple cleanings but it has not lifted anywhere.
I followed the instructions religiously - I prepped teh floor well - took the whole Satuday to do it, and then painted on Sunday - project took two whole days to complete - but then I am pretty thorough.
I have used a variety of cleaners on it - some are very aggressive, and it still looks brand new. I have welded in the grage, used it to build cabinets, you name it.
My only regret is that the floor is not 100% flat. Condensation from our car's AC units puddle in a few places and discolors. I then have to clean it once a week.
Here are some pics taken when it was completed in '04.
I followed the instructions religiously - I prepped teh floor well - took the whole Satuday to do it, and then painted on Sunday - project took two whole days to complete - but then I am pretty thorough.
I have used a variety of cleaners on it - some are very aggressive, and it still looks brand new. I have welded in the grage, used it to build cabinets, you name it.
My only regret is that the floor is not 100% flat. Condensation from our car's AC units puddle in a few places and discolors. I then have to clean it once a week.
Here are some pics taken when it was completed in '04.
My next project, regretfully so, is to remove the paint in the vehicle area, mask it off and and start again. This time with a two-part epoxy.
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Siswati...have you parked a recently driven vehicle, read - hot tires, and parked on the surface? Mine held up fine until you parked a hot tire on it, then off she went....my hawg will even lift it if it sits in any particular spot for too long.
Anyone use this product??? http://www.ucoatit.com/
Anyone use this product??? http://www.ucoatit.com/
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Hey guys if you have an uneven floor I strongly recomend a self leveling cement, it costs more but it worth every dollar and it's easy to apply just pour and it finds it's own level.
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Originally Posted by RobertG
Hey guys if you have an uneven floor I strongly recomend a self leveling cement, it costs more but it worth every dollar and it's easy to apply just pour and it finds it's own level.
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I looked into coatings and tiles, neither really seemed like a good solution. The coatings will eventually start to lift and are pretty slipppery when wet, an important consideration in the Seattle area. I didn't like the look of tiles with all the seams and the water dripping off your car after a substantial Seattle rain will get under the tiles eventually, causing concrete problems.
Then I found this roll out matting with the raised coin pattern. 3 pieces will do my entire 3 car garage for about $1000. You can find more info here
http://americangaragefloor.com/diamo...oring_suv1.jpg
Then I found this roll out matting with the raised coin pattern. 3 pieces will do my entire 3 car garage for about $1000. You can find more info here
http://americangaragefloor.com/diamo...oring_suv1.jpg
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Originally Posted by StapleGun
Siswati...have you parked a recently driven vehicle, read - hot tires, and parked on the surface? Mine held up fine until you parked a hot tire on it, then off she went....my hawg will even lift it if it sits in any particular spot for too long.
Anyone use this product??? http://www.ucoatit.com/
Anyone use this product??? http://www.ucoatit.com/
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I was thinking about getting tiles or a mat however during heavy rain sometimes pressure builds under the garage and i get little leaks from cracks.....dont know how that would effect the tiles or mat
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From: South Florida
'10 Panamera S, '06 AMG CLS55, '07 Miata MX5, '02 MB SPRINTER, '99 Spec Miata Race Car (2X)
I have often parked my cars with the tires still smoking. Not one area has lifted. I attribute this to the full 8 hours of preparation.
I did as follows
1. Commercial Degreaser - scrubbed with stiff bristle broom
Rinse and scrub with broom
rinse
2. Acid Ecthing with Pool Acid (wear breathing apparatus)
scrubbed with stiff bristle broom
rinse
dry
repeat
One day later I applied the epoxy - because of the size of the garage it took two complete kits. Did one half of the garage first. Then second half. Used a customized sieve to sprinkle the chips to get the application smooth across the entire garage.
I did as follows
1. Commercial Degreaser - scrubbed with stiff bristle broom
Rinse and scrub with broom
rinse
2. Acid Ecthing with Pool Acid (wear breathing apparatus)
scrubbed with stiff bristle broom
rinse
dry
repeat
One day later I applied the epoxy - because of the size of the garage it took two complete kits. Did one half of the garage first. Then second half. Used a customized sieve to sprinkle the chips to get the application smooth across the entire garage.
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All: used the EpoxysShield product on my floor and have been happy with it-its ALL about prep before you paint!! Join Sams club and go to garage organization section and read @ Supercoat Super kits. Made by Cass Polymer and costs 100.00 on their site but is only 63.00 on Sams site. Im using it this weekend on my new barn that covers 2500 sf of floor area. Used epoxy shild on my other barn and garage and have beeen happy except for my goof of poor prep in one area. To have this done commercially would cost @ 3 to 5000 bucks!! The labor is the killer-Joker
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Originally Posted by siswati
I used the Home Depot 2-part epoxy kit - it worked well for me. Its durable and looks as good as when I first did it in December of 04 (17 months ago). It has lost a slihgt amount of gloss from the multiple cleanings but it has not lifted anywhere.
I followed the instructions religiously - I prepped teh floor well - took the whole Satuday to do it, and then painted on Sunday - project took two whole days to complete - but then I am pretty thorough.
I have used a variety of cleaners on it - some are very aggressive, and it still looks brand new. I have welded in the grage, used it to build cabinets, you name it.
My only regret is that the floor is not 100% flat. Condensation from our car's AC units puddle in a few places and discolors. I then have to clean it once a week.
Here are some pics taken when it was completed in '04.
I followed the instructions religiously - I prepped teh floor well - took the whole Satuday to do it, and then painted on Sunday - project took two whole days to complete - but then I am pretty thorough.
I have used a variety of cleaners on it - some are very aggressive, and it still looks brand new. I have welded in the grage, used it to build cabinets, you name it.
My only regret is that the floor is not 100% flat. Condensation from our car's AC units puddle in a few places and discolors. I then have to clean it once a week.
Here are some pics taken when it was completed in '04.
That looks beautiful!
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Originally Posted by relisysj4
Anyone use Home Depots garage floor installation....they use Rust Oleums Epoxy Shield....
Any other ideas?
Any other ideas?
The Epoxy Paint WILL Chip...Been There done that. Its Not IF it WILL Chip..But When..Drop a Tool on the floor..Or Place a Jack stand on it. Like in the Pic a Motorcycle kickstand with the Rag on the floor to prevent any marks
The Epoxy looks Great (IF) you do NOT plan on working in the Garage
Plus IF You damage a Floor with Tile..One Just replaces the damaged tile..NOT repaint the floor
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I used the floor tiles from Griot's garage. Don't really like them that much. They deform when under load from a jack and actually make it quite unsteady. Also a pain to clean or mop since water gets under them.
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Originally Posted by MARK CUMMINS
I Would Recommend HEAVY DUTY Floor Tiles
The Epoxy Paint WILL Chip...Been There done that. Its Not IF it WILL Chip..But When..Drop a Tool on the floor..Or Place a Jack stand on it. Like in the Pic a Motorcycle kickstand with the Rag on the floor to prevent any marks
The Epoxy looks Great (IF) you do NOT plan on working in the Garage
Plus IF You damage a Floor with Tile..One Just replaces the damaged tile..NOT repaint the floor
The Epoxy Paint WILL Chip...Been There done that. Its Not IF it WILL Chip..But When..Drop a Tool on the floor..Or Place a Jack stand on it. Like in the Pic a Motorcycle kickstand with the Rag on the floor to prevent any marks
The Epoxy looks Great (IF) you do NOT plan on working in the Garage
Plus IF You damage a Floor with Tile..One Just replaces the damaged tile..NOT repaint the floor
I am sure you had a bad experience with your epoxy floor - but in my case this is the third one I have done (yeah I am an old fart) and in each case I have had no chipping at all - And I do more work in my garage than most. I have built steel trailers, convereted a Sprinter Van, and TONS of wood work. I use lots of heavy tools that are stored in the adjoining storeroom - I wheel them out and use them in the garage. I have had no chipping or lifting. NONE. Of course I try not to drop heavy tools but it does happen.
I am not saying that epoxy floors are great, but they are a very durable and cost effective option - note that the sponge under the Harley Kickstand in the photos I posted above is ONLY because that is the same day I did the floor and I did not want to leave the bike outdoors - so I put a pad under the kickstand while the epoxy was curing. I only brought the cars in once the floor had cured for 24 hours.
I have also used vinyl glue-down tiles on several of my garage floors - here in Florida they are a no-no as water will DEFINITELY get under them - in fact I have had more than 6 inches of water in my garage before (damn these hurricanes), and that is guaranteed to get under the tiles.
There are many great flooring options out there, including the stunning polished concrete floor posted above - epoxy is just one of them, and if done well will give you man years of excellent service without lifting or chipping.
If you follow my sig above you will see my Sprinter Mods underway - some pics here to show that I do in fact do some Heavy Duty work in the garage.......