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Old Jul 9, 2006 | 06:17 AM
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better my drag times

i have a stock 2001 e55 and ran a best time of 12.9 sec @ 178km/h. on street tires.

-please advise me on how to get it to run low 12s.i have seen on dragtimes.com that stock e55 running low 12s.

-which is the best way to launch the car?

-i bought a pair of mickey thompson 275/40/17 e/t street drag radials.
with these tyres help me better my time?
if so what pressure should i run on them on again how should i launch the car.

please help as i am running this weekend and e few e60m5 chipped are coming for me as i cleaned them up in the pass.
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Old Jul 9, 2006 | 06:34 AM
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Old Jul 9, 2006 | 08:45 AM
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I would have thought the stock E55s doing low 12s were w211, not w210 like yours.
I think you're doing pretty good so far - see the recent threads re tyre pressures for DRs.
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Old Jul 9, 2006 | 08:57 AM
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I would have thought the stock E55s doing low 12s were w211, not w210 like yours.
I think you're doing pretty good so far - see the recent threads re tyre pressures for DRs.
what is the difference between a w211 and the w210
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Old Jul 9, 2006 | 09:47 AM
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...........you must be in low altitude cold weather location. Runnig 12.9 with a stock W210 E55 is probably a record. It will be nice to see your timeslips to see your 60ft times.

..........As for difference between W210 and W211, I don't know where to begin. Essentially, the W211 has a supercharger and W210 does not.

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Old Jul 9, 2006 | 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by zangerbenz
i have a stock 2001 e55 and ran a best time of 12.9 sec @ 178km/h. on street tires.

-please advise me on how to get it to run low 12s.i have seen on dragtimes.com that stock e55 running low 12s.

-which is the best way to launch the car?

-i bought a pair of mickey thompson 275/40/17 e/t street drag radials.
with these tyres help me better my time?
if so what pressure should i run on them on again how should i launch the car.

please help as i am running this weekend and e few e60m5 chipped are coming for me as i cleaned them up in the pass.
i purchased a 2005 E55 for one of my executives. We just ran it at the track to see what it would run. Our best run was a 12.27 @ 115 mph. The 0-60 ft time was 1.96 seconds. Traction was a major problem out of the whole. I turned off the traction control and simply eased into the gas until it started to roll about 5 mph. Once it started to roll, i just put the gas to the floor. Drag radials or slicks if heated properly should make a huge difference as i think the car is probably capable of running 1.70 s 60 ft time which should actually yield a high 11 second or 12 second flat pass. Best part about it was that i probably ran the car 1 times and you're not hurting it!
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Old Jul 9, 2006 | 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by dkim996tt
i purchased a 2005 E55 for one of my executives. We just ran it at the track to see what it would run. Our best run was a 12.27 @ 115 mph. The 0-60 ft time was 1.96 seconds. Traction was a major problem out of the whole. I turned off the traction control and simply eased into the gas until it started to roll about 5 mph. Once it started to roll, i just put the gas to the floor. Drag radials or slicks if heated properly should make a huge difference as i think the car is probably capable of running 1.70 s 60 ft time which should actually yield a high 11 second or 12 second flat pass. Best part about it was that i probably ran the car 1 times and you're not hurting it!

.............he has a 2001 E55. Your times are not applicable in this case.

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Old Jul 9, 2006 | 08:52 PM
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what is the difference between a w211 and the w210
A lot.
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Old Jul 10, 2006 | 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Ted Baldwin
.............he has a 2001 E55. Your times are not applicable in this case.

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it is a 2001 model 5.5 l supercharge.
the track is 600m above sea level and the temperture is around 30degrees celcuis.

please advise the best way to launch the car.
esp should be on or off?
tyre pressure?
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Old Jul 10, 2006 | 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by zangerbenz
it is a 2001 model 5.5 l supercharge.
the track is 600m above sea level and the temperture is around 30degrees celcuis.

please advise the best way to launch the car.
esp should be on or off?
tyre pressure?
..........what brand of aftermarket supercharger do you have? depending on the brand of supercharger?, 12.9sec in the 1/4 mile at 600m above sea level may be as good as it gets........unless you further modify your car.

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Old Jul 10, 2006 | 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by zangerbenz
i have a stock 2001 e55 and ran a best time of 12.9 sec @ 178km/h. on street tires.

-please advise me on how to get it to run low 12s.i have seen on dragtimes.com that stock e55 running low 12s.

-which is the best way to launch the car?

-i bought a pair of mickey thompson 275/40/17 e/t street drag radials.
with these tyres help me better my time?
if so what pressure should i run on them on again how should i launch the car.

please help as i am running this weekend and e few e60m5 chipped are coming for me as i cleaned them up in the pass.
I've seen this guys car, its not a w210. Its a 2003 or later, i don't know why he says 2001. He is a doctor in Swaziland and i met with him about a week ago when he raced a RS4 audi. Maybe he means W211 instead of 2001.
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Old Jul 10, 2006 | 09:06 AM
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Bring the E55 to Wesbank raceway
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Old Jul 10, 2006 | 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by SoulBladeZA
Bring the E55 to Wesbank raceway
Personally, i don't like the power loss in Jhb, i prefer to run lower. But after my mods i do plan on coming to Wesbank as it is a good place to test a car.
How does your M5 run with E55's at that altitude?
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Old Jul 10, 2006 | 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Ted Baldwin
..........what brand of aftermarket supercharger do you have? depending on the brand of supercharger?, 12.9sec in the 1/4 mile at 600m above sea level may be as good as it gets........unless you further modify your car.

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sorry it is a 2004 e55 amg that comes stock from the factory with a supercharger.
my car is factory stock and i ran a 12.9sec.
i saw on dragtimes.com that the same cars like mines stock running 12.2sec
what wrong am i doing?
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Old Jul 10, 2006 | 11:28 AM
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Blue Arrow - did you sort out your cooling mods ? How is she running now ?
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Old Jul 11, 2006 | 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Blue Arrow
Personally, i don't like the power loss in Jhb, i prefer to run lower. But after my mods i do plan on coming to Wesbank as it is a good place to test a car.
How does your M5 run with E55's at that altitude?
Powerloss is worse for the M5

I haven't ran the M5 against an E55 sadly, they never want to play

I raced another M5 the other day with the SLK though. Me and the GF in the car vs M5 without plates with 4 old toppies in the M5. He was just walking away from me. I've driven an E55 and from the seat of your pants feel it does feel much faster with the 700nm pushing you.

So we will see

You should bring it on the last weekend of the month, timed runs and a Trackbite prepped track. Also there is usually a good showing of some nice cars, Noble M400's, M3, C32/C55/SLK 55, M5, M Coupe, Porsche's, Ferrari's etc. Should be some good races for you

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Old Jul 11, 2006 | 07:57 AM
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Powerloss is worse for the M5

I haven't ran the M5 against an E55 sadly, they never want to play

I raced another M5 the other day with the SLK though. Me and the GF in the car vs M5 without plates with 4 old toppies in the M5. He was just walking away from me. I've driven an E55 and from the seat of your pants feel it does feel much faster with the 700nm pushing you.

So we will see

You should bring it on the last weekend of the month, timed runs and a Trackbite prepped track. Also there is usually a good showing of some nice cars, Noble M400's, M3, C32/C55/SLK 55, M5, M Coupe, Porsche's, Ferrari's etc. Should be some good races for you
why dont u come to swazi this weekend.
we prove accomadation for our s.a. entries.
the track is a proper airstrip only 600m above sea level.
good traction low alltitude.
we can play,there will be rs4,e55,s55,m3,m3csl,e60m5 plus from 9sec to 14 sec drag cars.
lots of fun and u will have atleast 10 runs
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Old Jul 11, 2006 | 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by SoulBladeZA
Powerloss is worse for the M5

I haven't ran the M5 against an E55 sadly, they never want to play

I raced another M5 the other day with the SLK though. Me and the GF in the car vs M5 without plates with 4 old toppies in the M5. He was just walking away from me. I've driven an E55 and from the seat of your pants feel it does feel much faster with the 700nm pushing you.

So we will see

You should bring it on the last weekend of the month, timed runs and a Trackbite prepped track. Also there is usually a good showing of some nice cars, Noble M400's, M3, C32/C55/SLK 55, M5, M Coupe, Porsche's, Ferrari's etc. Should be some good races for you
Should i be worried about maintenance plan when i run there? Ran a M5 in Durban, i opened up about 6 cars over 800m, from a standstill. Have a video, don't know how to post it.
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Old Jul 11, 2006 | 08:08 AM
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Blue Arrow - did you sort out your cooling mods ? How is she running now ?
hi steve,
Got some parts together, waiting for a few more. I decided to get all that i require before i take the car of the road. Going to remove the cats and replace with a freeflow box. I'm quite sure it would make more power with that alone. My m5 previously made 20hp with no cats. When i do the rest i will let you know the results.
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Dan - watch out going full freeflow on the K motor - it needs an element of back pressure to keep the boost up. If you go full freeflow - up the kompressor speed to compensate with an oversized pulley. More benefit to be had if you gas flow the heads - would be very handy if you want to go to that hassle ...

I bet you would be down on power with freeflow and no ecu / pulley mod.
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Old Jul 11, 2006 | 09:30 AM
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Should i be worried about maintenance plan when i run there? Ran a M5 in Durban, i opened up about 6 cars over 800m, from a standstill. Have a video, don't know how to post it.
you can do so via photobucket.com.

dont worry there are no merc agents in swazi and there are no spies.
everyone is family having great fun.
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Originally Posted by zangerbenz
why dont u come to swazi this weekend.
we prove accomadation for our s.a. entries.
the track is a proper airstrip only 600m above sea level.
good traction low alltitude.
we can play,there will be rs4,e55,s55,m3,m3csl,e60m5 plus from 9sec to 14 sec drag cars.
lots of fun and u will have atleast 10 runs
I can't this weekend, but we should definitely hook up! Sounds like a blast. Just started a new company so my time is at a premium
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Old Jul 11, 2006 | 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Blue Arrow
Should i be worried about maintenance plan when i run there? Ran a M5 in Durban, i opened up about 6 cars over 800m, from a standstill. Have a video, don't know how to post it.
Nah, I sometimes takes the plates off depending on which car I take. The track days at Kyalami and Zwartkops are also great fun!

It's worth joining the BMW club of Gauteng, even if you don't have a BMW. They host so many events and it's always good having some competition. This weekend was BMW vs Cobra day at Tarlton. Gymkhana leading onto a rolling 1/4 mile. Was great fun.
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Dan - watch out going full freeflow on the K motor - it needs an element of back pressure to keep the boost up. If you go full freeflow - up the kompressor speed to compensate with an oversized pulley. More benefit to be had if you gas flow the heads - would be very handy if you want to go to that hassle ...

I bet you would be down on power with freeflow and no ecu / pulley mod.
I didn't plan on changing the rear silencer, my idea was to just remove the cats and put in slightly bigger pipe up front. do you still think this will be bad?
Also this, should i go full freeflow and put in a bigger pulley, is there a chance that my boost pressure will be lower than that of a car with the same pulley and a stock exhaust.
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Nah, I sometimes takes the plates off depending on which car I take. The track days at Kyalami and Zwartkops are also great fun!

It's worth joining the BMW club of Gauteng, even if you don't have a BMW. They host so many events and it's always good having some competition. This weekend was BMW vs Cobra day at Tarlton. Gymkhana leading onto a rolling 1/4 mile. Was great fun.
Belong to the BMW club Durban, lost my motorplan here on an m3, so i am paranoid about these things now. Durban is quite hard on racers.
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