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Old 08-05-2006, 06:30 PM
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Need Help... Car On Jack Lowering With Washers

I added the washers on the passenger side and removed the jack and turned the car on and get a warning that says stop, cars to low. The front is sitting high. What did I do wrong?
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Maybe I should do both sides first and then turn the car on?
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it could be the message comes up because both sides are not even. i often get that message poping up when i enter my driveway on an angle and park it there to open a gate. try the other side first.
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Make sure you didn't flip the lever over to the inside!!
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Originally Posted by jparch
it could be the message comes up because both sides are not even. i often get that message poping up when i enter my driveway on an angle and park it there to open a gate. try the other side first.
That's what I'm thinking... I guess I'll go do the other side.
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Why do I get the feelling that the "washers are unsafe, washers are safe" discussion will resurface yet once again?
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Well, just did the other side and still get the same message.
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Originally Posted by jangy
Make sure you didn't flip the lever over to the inside!!
Is that possible?
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can you post a pic of where you added the washers?
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Originally Posted by Quick E55

Is this your car? The pics look familiar. from EPower's thread? Anyway, if you followed the pics, you've done it correctly.

Have you tried raising your car (via the button by the shifter)?, and then lowering? This is what I do to "reset" the car.
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Originally Posted by jangy
Make sure you didn't flip the lever over to the inside!!
Thanks a million That's what happened. Very dumb move on my part
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Make sure you didn't flip the lever over to the inside!!
What lever are you referring to?
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Thanks a million That's what happened. Very dumb move on my part
That's good news...now, PICS!!
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Originally Posted by tbone
What lever are you referring to?
the elbow joint in the middle of the lever should point outward not inward.
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hehe, glad I could help. I was about to flame you for not listening sooner, but i saw you did. it dumps pretty low if you screw the flip side up. No worries, though it won't hurt anything AS LONG AS the wheels are straight at the time. If not, it could lower the fender onto the wheel top.


Dude, do your research and make sure this is how you want to do it. My vote is a huge NO and you can see that I have played with the washer method. You can modify the metal piece to NOT have all those bends in it and that will make the piece longer, lowering your car. Then, when you bolt it back on, you just hold it straight with a pair of needlenose pliars to keep it aligned as you TQ down the nut. Alternatively, you can literally drill a hole through the current bolt and replace it with a longer one that can be nice and snug.

My personal feeling is that the current bolt only has enough extra threads for a minimal drop, which is why I suggest another method instead of too many washers.

If it lets loose on the run, you are TOAST!!
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Thanks again... Everything turned out fine. I only used 3 washers, and also put Loctite on the nuts.

I might pick-up two new sensors and drill the screw out and just use a longer one.
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Thanks again... Everything turned out fine. I only used 3 washers, and also put Loctite on the nuts.

I might pick-up two new sensors and drill the screw out and just use a longer one.
You should be fine. Loctite won't help. the nut is oval and it only has a small percentage of the thread on the nut when it is not really cranked down. that is what gets scary. A nice bump in the road and the threads could give. be safe and consider the straightening mod. It takes ten minutes and takes the pain away AND is much lower than just 3 washers.

Good luck bro.
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You should be fine. Loctite won't help. the nut is oval and it only has a small percentage of the thread on the nut when it is not really cranked down. that is what gets scary. A nice bump in the road and the threads could give. be safe and consider the straightening mod. It takes ten minutes and takes the pain away AND is much lower than just 3 washers.

Good luck bro.
i agree loctite wont help if the nut isn't using all of it's threads. if you're going to use this method it's wise to get a new/regular nut without the built in flange. after picking up a new nut and using 4 washers (5mm) i still have 2 threads showing over the top of the nut which means i could use another washer if i chose to. i also used loctite.
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With 3 washers...

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Looking good. Now drop the rear as well or you have just transferred 50lbs onto your front end.
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Originally Posted by chiromikey
i agree loctite wont help if the nut isn't using all of it's threads. if you're going to use this method it's wise to get a new/regular nut without the built in flange. after picking up a new nut and using 4 washers (5mm) i still have 2 threads showing over the top of the nut which means i could use another washer if i chose to. i also used loctite.
You can get a "dynabolt" in that size, with a flanged nut with notches, which is 2mm thinner than stock.
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You guys have scared me about the way I lowered my car so I talked to a friend of mine that's a Mercedes tech and once I get my 20" wheels he will lower it with the scan tool.

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