W211 AMG Discuss the W211 AMG's such as the E55 and the E63

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Old Oct 5, 2006 | 02:46 PM
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7Speed is (almost) totally wrong, not only is the M5 unwilling to go into P500 mode during breakin, its also limited in its ability to make power before the 1200 mile service. This is due to the trifecta of 1. the mineral oil they use during breakin 2. the piston ring issue 3. The fact that the ECU is LIMITED from the factory. Put it in P500 before the 1200 mile service and it feels more like P420, they actually check at the dealer to see if you've been attempting to engage it and if you've been overrevving it (all info is transferred to your key). Leaving the stealership after said service I laid a strip 50ft. long while bouncing the needle off redline like a madman.
I don't think anybody knows precisely what is happening or supposed to happen. Derrick's car did not run through the traps at 114.75 mph on only 420 hp. I had never heard that you "can't" put the car into p500 mode before break-in is done. I heard that it was not recommended, but that's different. Did you try to do it and were unable to?

The piston ring issue does not limit power, does it? I thought it is simply one of the reasons why you want to go "easy" when the car is new.

I always observe the break-in instructions until I leave the dealer's lot.
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Old Oct 5, 2006 | 02:49 PM
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Its not that the car won't go into P500 mode, it will engage, but the car is noticeably quicker after the 1,200 mile service is done. Piston rings have everything to do with compression, so one can imagine that if they're not quite in place, loss of compression= loss of power.
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Old Oct 5, 2006 | 03:11 PM
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we're not in the stone age anymore where cars take thousands of miles to break-in because machining tolerances are vague. if loaded properly, rings don't take more than a few miles to seat. if anything is mechanically robbing power within the first few miles of use, it's the transmission.
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Old Oct 5, 2006 | 03:27 PM
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Conventional rules don't necessarily apply to an engine that eats a liter of oil every 2,000 miles.
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Old Oct 5, 2006 | 04:55 PM
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Who is this guy? Is this vapor? (e.g., G-tech Pro) I live in the VA/DC/MD area and don't know about this. He could have only run locally at the Mason-Dixon, Capitol, or MIR. I may be able to call them up and ask for the best ET for E55s.
A Kleemann customer. According to Kleemann he is a pro import driver. Hopefully I can get access to a timeslip or video in the near future. That's amazing though... 10.48 @ 136
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Old Oct 5, 2006 | 05:12 PM
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wow... that must be annoying.... that kind of oil usage is within BMW's specs as acceptable?




Originally Posted by Cylinder Head
Conventional rules don't necessarily apply to an engine that eats a liter of oil every 2,000 miles.
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Old Oct 5, 2006 | 05:16 PM
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A Kleemann customer. According to Kleemann he is a pro import driver. Hopefully I can get access to a timeslip or video in the near future. That's amazing though... 10.48 @ 136
Someone needs to turn this guy on to the forum so that he can receive the proper fame, riches, and worship he deserves.

He'll probably just get flamed to death and the G-Thugs will keep trying to "call him out", BUT STILL!!!

Maybe he just digs the lurking hero thing.......
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Old Oct 5, 2006 | 06:11 PM
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Hey Derek,

Bring that crap hauler up here! I'll race U right down Michigan Ave. on my stocks! BTW U do know that BMW stands for Bavarian Manure Wagon!
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Old Oct 5, 2006 | 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by ENDSMTG
Hey Derek,

Bring that crap hauler up here! I'll race U right down Michigan Ave. on my stocks! BTW U do know that BMW stands for Bavarian Manure Wagon!
LOL, better hope there aren't any corners or brake zones. After you hooking me up with wheels for the Cannonball, I'd let you win anyways.
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Old Oct 6, 2006 | 08:57 AM
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M6s with good driver will spank stock E55 for sure...
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Old Oct 6, 2006 | 09:08 AM
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M6s with good driver will spank stock E55 for sure...
Russ,

If you don't mind me asking, are you a native of Russia or an expatriate?
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Old Oct 7, 2006 | 12:38 PM
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That's amazing though... 10.48 @ 136
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Old Oct 7, 2006 | 12:55 PM
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Russ,

If you don't mind me asking, are you a native of Russia or an expatriate?

Native !!!
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Old Oct 9, 2006 | 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by E55 RUSS
M6s with good driver will spank stock E55 for sure...
Exactly my point! And just who here says that DerekFSU is a good driver?
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Old Oct 9, 2006 | 06:39 PM
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Exactly my point! And just who here says that DerekFSU is a good driver?
LOL, certainly not me. I just don't have anything better to do with my time. The M6 would certainly kill the E on a road course, but not necessarily on the dragstrip.
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Old Oct 10, 2006 | 11:28 AM
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LOL, certainly not me. I just don't have anything better to do with my time. The M6 would certainly kill the E on a road course, but not necessarily on the dragstrip.
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