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Old 12-12-2006, 11:37 PM
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AMG Lounge:Rob Allen question time again

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When and how will 030 packages and or parts be available to E55 guys?

Can i run the 030 pack control arms and rotors with the OEM 18s?
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Personally I'd rather watch paint dry than listen to Rob Allen's B.S. Talk about a waste of a pair of shoes.
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Originally Posted by rake55
Personally I'd rather watch paint dry than listen to Rob Allen's B.S. Talk about a waste of a pair of shoes.
I met him at the AMG challenge and found him to be nice. Also, I think it is at least a show of good faith that he even puts himself up to this. You can't expect a corporate dude to rake his own company over the grill. I don't exactly see the BMW m-car guy doing anything similar??
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IMO expressing views, concerns, tech questions allows us to present our positions. Cali is still one of their largest markets, I would believe they would have some interest. But then again they are corporate.
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Personally I'd rather watch paint dry than listen to Rob Allen's B.S. Talk about a waste of a pair of shoes.
I assume you can support above statement with some basis?
I had a number of encounters with Rob and always found him to be very courteous and helpful with real info about AMG current and upcoming products.
Would you care to tell us why you have such a low opinion of the guy?
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Originally Posted by absent
I assume you can support above statement with some basis?
I had a number of encounters with Rob and always found him to be very courteous and helpful with real info about AMG current and upcoming products.
Would you care to tell us why you have such a low opinion of the guy?
Its basically just because he never really gives us the information we want. Understandably, the guy needs to watch what he says, but many of the questions we have for him are things that he technically cannot answer. For instance, Jangy, I doubt he will tell you that you can go with the control arms because that is an aftermarket mod that Merc doesn't support. I find him to be a great guy, dont get me wrong, Im just giving my guess as to what Rake55 meant.

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Its basically just because he never really gives us the information we want. Understandably, the guy needs to watch what he says, but many of the questions we have for him are things that he technically cannot answer. For instance, Jangy, I doubt he will tell you that you can go with the control arms because that is an aftermarket mod that Merc doesn't support. I find him to be a great guy, dont get me wrong, Im just giving my guess as to what Rake55 meant.
Actually, Rob told me himself that the 030 package would be available for the E55 sometime in '07 and that it was to be priced at ~$10K. I really don't want the LSD, and I worry tha the rotors will be the size of current so i just wonder.

Your points are taken, however. No corporate dude will be caught condoning mods.
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Originally Posted by jangy
When and how will 030 packages and or parts be available to E55 guys?

Can i run the 030 pack control arms and rotors with the OEM 18s?
Also, if and when will the 030 package become available for the E63?
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I would like to find out why a group of re-flashed E55s cars (mine included) can only hit 143 mph.
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Originally Posted by jangy
I met him at the AMG challenge and found him to be nice. Also, I think it is at least a show of good faith that he even puts himself up to this. You can't expect a corporate dude to rake his own company over the grill. I don't exactly see the BMW m-car guy doing anything similar??
Agreed!

I also met him at the AMG challenge, he seemed like a very nice guy & was up to date on everything we talk about on this site. I appreciate the time he takes to talk to us, because he really doesn't have to do it.
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Thanks to Eleanor Owner for articulating my thoughts.

I think Rob is an OK guy but to me he just isn’t a passionate Mercedes guy. I don’t think his objectives are aligned with those of his counterparts in Affalterbach and don’t find him to be a true proponent and ambassador of AMG ideologies. He never really gives any great insight or meaningful information. I appreciate that he takes the time to speak with us AMG owners but generally find his information to be high on fluff and low on content. Maybe I should just keep my thoughts to myself because he does deserve credit for taking the time to speak with us. I wish that AMG would grow a set of ***** and put Wolf Zimmerman on the AMG lounge to answer our questions.
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Lets keep the bashing for another thread and let this one serve to collect all the TECHNICAL questions we want asked. We all have opinions of corporate folks and that is all they are. My opinion of Rob has no effect on him.
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Originally Posted by ChicagoX
I would like to find out why a group of re-flashed E55s cars (mine included) can only hit 143 mph.
I'm not saying your issue is bashing. i see it as legit and to be asked. I don't know that you will like the answer, but it is a valid question. I wish I had better news for you, but mine hit 160mph recently and DID not shut down.
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I wish I had better news for you, but mine hit 160mph recently and DID not shut down.
Thanks for turning the knife, Jangy.

I am not trying to flame RA at all, rather get any insight into an issue that has the local mouthbreathing service guys stumped. (surprise.)

I applaud him entering the "lion's den" of the forums at all.....
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I would like to find out why a group of re-flashed E55s cars (mine included) can only hit 143 mph.
That's pathetic. Keep us posted if and when you get an answer.
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Its basically just because he never really gives us the information we want.
That's probably because he just doesn't know, not so much because he's not willing to tell. US Product managers are just part of the PR chain, the real voodoo and black magic happens in Affalterbach with the real boss and the mad scientists.
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Actually, Rob told me himself that the 030 package would be available for the E55 sometime in '07 and that it was to be priced at ~$10K.
wouldnt that sort of be useless since E55's are no longer made? Or will this be a dealer added package?
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Jrocket...."When will the Twin Turbo E63's be out?"

Rob Allen...."Next year"

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Originally Posted by jangy
When and how will 030 packages and or parts be available to E55 guys?

Can i run the 030 pack control arms and rotors with the OEM 18s?
I asked this last time and he said chassis differences would not allow it and he would not recommend using 07 parts on an 03-6. No aftermarket parts will be made by MB in the near future.

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wouldnt that sort of be useless since E55's are no longer made? Or will this be a dealer added package?
Rob had mentioned that it would be an accessory that could be added. The components are in the AMG file that is on the internet, but we have no channel to buy them here.
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I asked this last time and he said chassis differences would allow it and he would not recommend using 07 parts on an 03-6. No aftermarket parts will be made by MB in the near future.
Well, that sucks!! What does he want me to do? Buy an '07?
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Well, that sucks!! What does he want me to do? Buy an '07?
Yep, you got it.
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well what the cheap thing to do would be to buy an 07 e-amg take the parts you want off of it and then put them on ypue e55 and junk the rest of the car
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Originally Posted by eLTURCOamg
well what the cheap thing to do would be to buy an 07 e-amg take the parts you want off of it and then put them on ypue e55 and junk the rest of the car
Holy crap,I'd hate to see the non cheap alternative.


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