Raced my first E55 today…
01-02-2007, 12:19 PM
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The E55 was in front of me at the light.
So he had the hole shot.
He punched it and then I followed.
He did not spin the rears so he must have had the ESP on.
I caught him right away and passed him before shifting into 2nd.
I let off at about 90 and he was two-three car lengths behind.
So he had the hole shot.
He punched it and then I followed.
He did not spin the rears so he must have had the ESP on.
I caught him right away and passed him before shifting into 2nd.
I let off at about 90 and he was two-three car lengths behind.
Your car has a 7spd trans,and you caught and passed him before you hit 2nd?
And all this within a few seconds you had time to notice if his tires were spinning or not?
Might want to get a real race done before getting to excited.
01-02-2007, 12:38 PM
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Sounds like you regret buying the underpowered/inferior e63 and you're boasting about a race where clearly you were giving it all you've got and the e55 didn't want to waste his gas. It's that simple...
01-02-2007, 12:40 PM
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Sorta sounds like he was still moving while the E55 sat at the light. Then the light turned green, and the 63 gunned it while still rolling. A small fly-by ya know?
01-02-2007, 12:57 PM
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I think Chiromikey's car is modded, and he never said he killed the 430 off the line before it even had a chance to shift into 2nd.
Even against an S55, with ESP kicking in and John Force behind the wheel of an E63, you're not going to pass the S55 before he shifts into 2nd and pass him.
If you want to count it as a kill count it as a kill, who's keeping score anyway? This type of street racing is no indication of who's faster than whom, since there are a variety of factors, besides, it's just a bit dangerous.
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Even against an S55, with ESP kicking in and John Force behind the wheel of an E63, you're not going to pass the S55 before he shifts into 2nd and pass him.
If you want to count it as a kill count it as a kill, who's keeping score anyway? This type of street racing is no indication of who's faster than whom, since there are a variety of factors, besides, it's just a bit dangerous.
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01-02-2007, 01:53 PM
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Entirely possible that the E55 tripped the ESP and the car bogged. Once it bogs, it is playing catch-up against the E63. I don't have a problem believing the E63 could have won under these circumstances.
I'd like to see a low 12 second time slip from an E63. I am not being sarcastic.
I'd like to see a low 12 second time slip from an E63. I am not being sarcastic.
http://www.dragtimes.com/Mercedes-Be...lip-10555.html
Low enough?
01-02-2007, 02:08 PM
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Not even remotely possible!
I was on PCH in HB. The E55 was in front of me at the light. So he had the hole shot. He punched it and then I followed. He did not spin the rears so he must have had the ESP on. I caught him right away and passed him before shifting into 2nd. I let off at about 90 and he was two-three car lengths behind. All of the tests on the 63 have been done with low mile cars. It seems as though mine has gotten faster as I have put miles on it. I’m at about 3,800 now. I’m not sure what year the E55 was. All I know is it was a 211. With all the banter on this site about how slow the 63 is…it was nice to race one (E55) and see him in my rear view mirror…Or maybe he wasn’t trying…
01-02-2007, 02:23 PM
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01-02-2007, 02:51 PM
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Folks…I’m just reporting what happened. Who knows maybe something was wrong with his car. When I said, “maybe he wasn’t trying…” I said so with the anticipation of all of the comments I would receive when I said I beat a 55. Such as “not possible” “he wasn’t trying” etc.
The first thing I said to him at the next light was “everything I have read about these two cars says that your car should be faster.” He responded, “I guess not.” Honestly when I was behind him at the stoplight, I expected to lose with everything I have read.
So, just for fun, let’s get together and see for our selves. I really have no pride here; I love both of these cars.
The first thing I said to him at the next light was “everything I have read about these two cars says that your car should be faster.” He responded, “I guess not.” Honestly when I was behind him at the stoplight, I expected to lose with everything I have read.
So, just for fun, let’s get together and see for our selves. I really have no pride here; I love both of these cars.
01-02-2007, 03:32 PM
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Folks…I’m just reporting what happened. Who knows maybe something was wrong with his car. When I said, “maybe he wasn’t trying…” I said so with the anticipation of all of the comments I would receive when I said I beat a 55. Such as “not possible” “he wasn’t trying” etc.
The first thing I said to him at the next light was “everything I have read about these two cars says that your car should be faster.” He responded, “I guess not.” Honestly when I was behind him at the stoplight, I expected to lose with everything I have read.
So, just for fun, let’s get together and see for our selves. I really have no pride here; I love both of these cars.
The first thing I said to him at the next light was “everything I have read about these two cars says that your car should be faster.” He responded, “I guess not.” Honestly when I was behind him at the stoplight, I expected to lose with everything I have read.
So, just for fun, let’s get together and see for our selves. I really have no pride here; I love both of these cars.
All in all, gE63 got a kill even if it is not a great kill and I do think something is wrong with the E55, either driver or car.
If gE63 is lying then we should continue blasting him. hahah LOL
01-02-2007, 03:38 PM
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Something off here. My brother-in-law bought the E63 last September and we've raced a few times so far and most races we did were rolling on 1st gear from 30-40mph to 110-120mph to avoid wheel spin and he never pulled on me and suprisingly I slightly got the jump most of the times and kept it all the way to 110+ before shutting down. Both cars are pretty even as far as straightline accelaration is concerned but I do think the E63 is the better overall car. He's actually looking to modify his car but unfortunately there are not a lot of options out there for the E63. My E55 is stock except the HRE wheels but that shouldn't make that much of a difference. He's already put at least 3.5k miles on it so I'll race him again as he adds more miles to it.
01-02-2007, 03:52 PM
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Someone needs to organize a good street race between an E55 and an E63.
I think the stickiness of the drag strip really puts the advantage in the hands of the E55. What happens when it is more of a real world race? When we can't put down a 1.8 60' foot time how does the E63 fair?
Cheers!
I think the stickiness of the drag strip really puts the advantage in the hands of the E55. What happens when it is more of a real world race? When we can't put down a 1.8 60' foot time how does the E63 fair?
Cheers!
01-02-2007, 04:10 PM
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Someone needs to organize a good street race between an E55 and an E63.
I think the stickiness of the drag strip really puts the advantage in the hands of the E55. What happens when it is more of a real world race? When we can't put down a 1.8 60' foot time how does the E63 fair?
Cheers!
I think the stickiness of the drag strip really puts the advantage in the hands of the E55. What happens when it is more of a real world race? When we can't put down a 1.8 60' foot time how does the E63 fair?
Cheers!
Takes skill to get an E55 off the line well on the street.Makes it even harder when you have a SC clutch that engages harshly.A good sticky street tire is defiantely needed for the 55's on day to day street racing.
01-02-2007, 05:17 PM
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01-02-2007, 05:25 PM
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a lot of things can happen in a street race, I have no doubt you won.... of course you're going to get some words here when you say that you overpowered him when its been well documented that the E55 puts down just as much power as the E63 and a lot more torque....
Folks…I’m just reporting what happened. Who knows maybe something was wrong with his car. When I said, “maybe he wasn’t trying…” I said so with the anticipation of all of the comments I would receive when I said I beat a 55. Such as “not possible” “he wasn’t trying” etc.
The first thing I said to him at the next light was “everything I have read about these two cars says that your car should be faster.” He responded, “I guess not.” Honestly when I was behind him at the stoplight, I expected to lose with everything I have read.
So, just for fun, let’s get together and see for our selves. I really have no pride here; I love both of these cars.
The first thing I said to him at the next light was “everything I have read about these two cars says that your car should be faster.” He responded, “I guess not.” Honestly when I was behind him at the stoplight, I expected to lose with everything I have read.
So, just for fun, let’s get together and see for our selves. I really have no pride here; I love both of these cars.
01-02-2007, 06:27 PM
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This is obviously thae same w/the above link, no slip etc...It's just some guy dying to post a low 63 time, he records the magazine data as an actual record.....
01-02-2007, 07:27 PM
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So are you saying that the E55 needs "sticky" tires to launch properly??? If thats the case, I wouldn't doubt the claims that gE63 makes, especially if it also had a SC clutch that engages harshly!!
01-02-2007, 08:34 PM
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The E55 does need good rubber to launch to its full TQ. Why do you think I have been bending over backwards to get 295s to fit?
Those that have tried getting new rubber can tell you the difference tires make on the E55. Old, hard tires just spin. New wide ones stick. With the 295s on, I can basically just mash the gas and the launch is just that. With the 275s, I have to fan the throttle in AND be careful when punching it out of turns.
I believe him. I believe I can smoke him, but I believe him. I've got launches down and my car is healthy, indeed. Straighline races are boring, but i do participate when I can.
Looks like the SD crew has to take this on and get footage. We can use Roger and gE63's (Greg) E63s and mine, JAY55, and 2K6E55's (Jeff) E55s.
This is a good test, since the E55s will be going to RENNTech Stage 1 (2 for me) soon.
Stock for Stock, I don't think there is enough difference between the E63 and the E55 to argue. I'd take each in its own right. The only real separation is in the engine modifications that can be done to the E55.
Those that have tried getting new rubber can tell you the difference tires make on the E55. Old, hard tires just spin. New wide ones stick. With the 295s on, I can basically just mash the gas and the launch is just that. With the 275s, I have to fan the throttle in AND be careful when punching it out of turns.
I believe him. I believe I can smoke him, but I believe him. I've got launches down and my car is healthy, indeed. Straighline races are boring, but i do participate when I can.
Looks like the SD crew has to take this on and get footage. We can use Roger and gE63's (Greg) E63s and mine, JAY55, and 2K6E55's (Jeff) E55s.
This is a good test, since the E55s will be going to RENNTech Stage 1 (2 for me) soon.
Stock for Stock, I don't think there is enough difference between the E63 and the E55 to argue. I'd take each in its own right. The only real separation is in the engine modifications that can be done to the E55.
01-02-2007, 08:39 PM
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Im saying that the 55's have alot of grunt(tq),and the stickier tires will help out the less professional driver.ESP does a good job but robs the power away for too long,making it hard to get a good solid launch on the street.Just a few bips of the ESP light will slow the 55 way down.The harsh SC engagement is hard to deal with if your trying to easy the car out of the hole on street tires,without activating the ESP alot.With a better tire you can get into the throttle much quicker.I race my car in dyno mode,its easier for me to you throttle control then it is too get the time back from the ESP doing its part.Thats just me though.
01-02-2007, 08:40 PM
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