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Old Mar 9, 2007 | 09:41 PM
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anyone here have one? my niece and nephew just bought one and the technology destroys what we have in the E. I am shocked at how nice the escalade is. is the nav better in the s or is benz just not up on touchscreens and accurate technology of that type????
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Old Mar 9, 2007 | 10:17 PM
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Even if they got the nav right it's still a 35k tahoe with 20k of body molding...OK 15k of body molding, 5k for the engine
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Old Mar 10, 2007 | 12:25 AM
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I fell in love with the dash and the blue pointer needles they use.
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Old Mar 10, 2007 | 10:36 AM
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Old Mar 10, 2007 | 11:26 AM
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Why would you post this in the E55 forum?

My friend is a FedEx pilot and he has much better gadgets than the Escalade in his jet.
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Old Mar 10, 2007 | 11:39 AM
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Why would you post this in the E55 forum?

My friend is a FedEx pilot and he has much better gadgets than the Escalade in his jet.
reason being I wanted those with comparable cars to make comments....why does anyone post in a form. If I was in the room with you I would probably leave right now.....

also i guess I was a bit jealous at the the cool crap in the truck and knew people would say enough bad about he escalade to make me feel better!
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Old Mar 10, 2007 | 12:40 PM
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Sorry if I came off a little harsh. I just think you would do better to post in a different more comparable forum like the GL450.
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Old Mar 10, 2007 | 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Pacific NW Guy
anyone here have one? my niece and nephew just bought one and the technology destroys what we have in the E. I am shocked at how nice the escalade is. is the nav better in the s or is benz just not up on touchscreens and accurate technology of that type????
2007.5 Suburban fully loaded, and I find little difference in the "technology destroys" statement, if you check under the hood on any electrical harness you will see Delphi on both, yes they have about the same number of options, lights, bells, whistles, ect. On the topic of nav, the GM nav is getting better they have dumbed it down with great results, now any soccer mom can use it. The touch screen sucks, this is not first most apparent, the touch buttons require you to look at control head too long to find what you need, and touch buttons are small I push the wrong one all the time and leaves finger prints, I hate it. the question of accuracy I find both dead on.
The difference GMNAV = US and Canada, Navteq= the entire world.
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If you like the tech in the GM cars check out the Japanese cars. I hear some of them have real time traffic info on the navi!
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I rather have a new X5 4.8 or GL450....

GM looses its value all too quick after a few years.
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Old Mar 10, 2007 | 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Pacific NW Guy
anyone here have one? my niece and nephew just bought one and the technology destroys what we have in the E. I am shocked at how nice the escalade is. is the nav better in the s or is benz just not up on touchscreens and accurate technology of that type????

The nav is the only thing that is a major disappointment in the E55. When I really need to find a place,I take my Tom-Tom.
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Old Mar 10, 2007 | 05:07 PM
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Best thing about the new Escalades and Denali SUV's is the 6.2L and 6spd auto tranny that is not available in any other GM vehicle. This engine has 380 hp in the Denali and 401hp in the Escalade. I agree with the resale value comment.
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Old Mar 10, 2007 | 09:55 PM
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The nav is the only thing that is a major disappointment in the E55. When I really need to find a place,I take my Tom-Tom.
Minte,

Hope your dynamic seats are still working, I just updated my DVD from 2005.1 to ver.2006.1 and it has much more up to date information and an operating upgrade as well. The newest version now is 2006.2 and I understand it has twice the data of 6.1, but only available at dealer. You should check your ver # on DVD in trunk.
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Old Mar 10, 2007 | 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by TopGun32
I rather have a new X5 4.8 or GL450....

GM looses its value all too quick after a few years.

and bmw's or mercedes value wont drop like rocks?
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Old Mar 11, 2007 | 01:24 AM
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Not an Escalade, but some tech musings...

Originally Posted by Pacific NW Guy
anyone here have one? my niece and nephew just bought one and the technology destroys what we have in the E. I am shocked at how nice the escalade is. is the nav better in the s or is benz just not up on touchscreens and accurate technology of that type????
The MBZ has absolutely the worst Nav amongst all my cars, The Corvette gets better and the Pilot has absolutely the best Nav. Just absolutely the best without comparisions. The Corvette's "keyless go" equivalent is more responsive than the CLS. The Pilot Nav comes with a rear camera standard. However it is still a japanese utilitarian vehicle, and the Corvette is the greatest design feat by GM in my opinion, but still a GM and I got it because it offers the best bang for the bucks. The MBZ is still overall better, with an absolutely pathetic Nav. I find it amusing that it doesn't even offer you a dipstick!
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Old Mar 11, 2007 | 01:31 AM
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The Corvette's "keyless go" equivalent is more responsive than the CLS
What do you mean by that? As far as I remember from my test drive, it seemed a lil bit more complicated? Something about priming it so electrical stuff can be used, then hitting the button again to start the car? No beef against it or anything...just wondering.
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Old Mar 11, 2007 | 01:47 AM
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if you get an 07 Escalade,
whatever you do, turn off your blinkers at a stoplight
if i'm behind you and you have them on, don't be suprised to see me busting your tailights with a baseball bat
grrrrrrrrrrrrr they are soooo bright, big and annoying

but yes on the topic, you'll like it first 6 months then you'll see the real quality come to light.
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Old Mar 11, 2007 | 12:45 PM
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What do you mean by that? As far as I remember from my test drive, it seemed a lil bit more complicated? Something about priming it so electrical stuff can be used, then hitting the button again to start the car? No beef against it or anything...just wondering.
No. Keys in my jean pocket (as the MBZ) push on the door handle (reversely) on the tactile switch as the MBZ, then they have a push button on the dash for start/stop which has faster response time than the MBZ. This button can be used to select the "On" position (like using a key to the #3 position) without engaging the starter, which you can never do with the CLS.

The only thing I have had to prime before starting is a 60's 70's muscle car with a manual choke... Or my Honda lawn mower
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Old Mar 11, 2007 | 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by coolcamden
No. Keys in my jean pocket (as the MBZ) push on the door handle (reversely) on the tactile switch as the MBZ, then they have a push button on the dash for start/stop which has faster response time than the MBZ. This button can be used to select the "On" position (like using a key to the #3 position) without engaging the starter, which you can never do with the CLS.

The only thing I have had to prime before starting is a 60's 70's muscle car with a manual choke... Or my Honda lawn mower
of course you can on the CLS; try pushing the start button without your foot on the brake and you'll get the "accessories on" position w/ no starter. That's something i'm surprised you haven't yet stumbled upon by accident, much less having read it in the manual.
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This button can be used to select the "On" position (like using a key to the #3 position) without engaging the starter, which you can never do with the CLS.
Ditto above post....how long have you owned your CLS and you still don't know how to get the car into accessories mode via keyless?

Oh and to the original poster, try driving a new Escalade...rented one to drive to the mountains...can you say BODY ROLL. It was awful. Rented a Suburban on the next trip and it was so much better.
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Old Mar 11, 2007 | 04:18 PM
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Minte,

Hope your dynamic seats are still working, I just updated my DVD from 2005.1 to ver.2006.1 and it has much more up to date information and an operating upgrade as well. The newest version now is 2006.2 and I understand it has twice the data of 6.1, but only available at dealer. You should check your ver # on DVD in trunk.

I had the car in for it's 10k and the dealer did look at the seats. Apparently,the dynamic seating issue was self inflicted. I had the lumbar cranked up to high. I am current on the dvd. It's just weak as hell.The street I live on has been a street for at least 30 years and it shows me as living *off road*..
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I had the car in for it's 10k and the dealer did look at the seats. Apparently,the dynamic seating issue was self inflicted. I had the lumbar cranked up to high. I am current on the dvd. It's just weak as hell.The street I live on has been a street for at least 30 years and it shows me as living *off road*..
How is the Nav in your Porsche? I think it is Navteq also. well about all a guy can do is bitGhto Navteq

http://mapreporter.navteq.com/dur-we...ER&language=en

I don't know if it will do any good, but worth a try, give em hell
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of course you can on the CLS; try pushing the start button without your foot on the brake and you'll get the "accessories on" position w/ no starter. That's something i'm surprised you haven't yet stumbled upon by accident, much less having read it in the manual.
Thanks, learn something everyday.

I still don't know how to do a few things with the CLS, like fast forwarding/fast reverse within a track of a single disc CD. My wife and I tried to look for the feature while we were on a road trip through Sonoma, pulled off the road in this beautiful farm/vineyard country, putted around with it and the COMMAND manual for a few minutes... Finally gave up and relistened to some of the same previous track. (It was a book on CD thingy my wife listens to...)

Already learned of the car's limitation of having to have Nav and Audio on at the same time. The other Nav systems are independent of the radio/sound system. Most time I want just the scrolling map on, with no sounds in my car... doesn't work with the CLS except for using the MUTE button.

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Old Mar 11, 2007 | 06:50 PM
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[QUOTE=silversurfer;2070289]Ditto above post....how long have you owned your CLS and you still don't know how to get the car into accessories mode via keyless?QUOTE]

I still don't know what most of the buttons on my TV remote control do!... Guess that's really bad in your book, huh?

Do you know how to adjust the timing and tune the carburetors on a 2X4 on a 428 Cobra Jet engine? even a single carb set up? Or adjust the lifters on a DZ302? Guess I'm old time.
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Old Mar 11, 2007 | 09:39 PM
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I've got a Denali and must admit the nav is better than the one in my E55. However, I hate the fact that GM makes you acknowalge the stupid disclaimer every time you start the car. That's one thing MB got right.

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