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Old Apr 6, 2007 | 12:59 AM
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Anyone know of a pulley that is 170-175mm that has custom dampening? If so, please PM me. i am only looking for pulley, NO Ecu.
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Old Apr 7, 2007 | 11:08 PM
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Anyone know of a pulley that is 170-175mm that has custom dampening? If so, please PM me. i am only looking for pulley, NO Ecu.

Jangy, I like you and I think you are a great and helpful forum member but WTF...... a 170-175mm pulley with custom dampening? What are you trying to do? I do not understand why you don't just go with a full EVO, Kleemann or Renntech package (to augment your VRUS air-box) and be done with it. All these tuners have proven and reliable power.........right? Please tell us what you are trying to achieve. You seem to be all over the place.

BTW, I am taking a trip to SD in a couple of months and need some recommendations on the best downtown hotels and dining spots.
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Old Apr 7, 2007 | 11:28 PM
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Jangy, I like you and I think you are a great and helpful forum member but WTF...... a 170-175mm pulley with custom dampening? What are you trying to do? I do not understand why you don't just go with a full EVO, Kleemann or Renntech package (to augment your VRUS air-box) and be done with it. All these tuners have proven and reliable power.........right? Please tell us what you are trying to achieve. You seem to be all over the place.

BTW, I am taking a trip to SD in a couple of months and need some recommendations on the best downtown hotels and dining spots.
OMG SanDiego has some HOTT chicks, good luck staying OUT OF TROUBLE. Gotta chill at the Hotel Coronado, for at least a sunset drink or 7
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Old Apr 8, 2007 | 01:30 AM
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Jangy, I like you and I think you are a great and helpful forum member but WTF...... a 170-175mm pulley with custom dampening? What are you trying to do? I do not understand why you don't just go with a full EVO, Kleemann or Renntech package (to augment your VRUS air-box) and be done with it. All these tuners have proven and reliable power.........right? Please tell us what you are trying to achieve. You seem to be all over the place.

BTW, I am taking a trip to SD in a couple of months and need some recommendations on the best downtown hotels and dining spots.
I'm just trying not to overpay for a setup that will be outdated by the end of summer. I'm sure all the tuners make nice stuff, but I have yet to see one that has taken the boost to that level.
RT has released a better dampening setup, but the size remains 165mm.
I haven't taken a close enough look at EVO's or K's, but I assumed they were also 165mm.
The ASP is 175 (good boost), but I am ecer more leary of using an OEM modified one.
That is what brings me back to the original question. I have sources for most everything else, but still need a pulley and ECU tune that I like.

Keep this in mind, Rock. I would have never got the vRUS box if I just foolowed the norm. I haven't done any performance comparisons yet, but I'm happy with it for now.
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Old Apr 8, 2007 | 01:30 AM
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OMG SanDiego has some HOTT chicks, good luck staying OUT OF TROUBLE. Gotta chill at the Hotel Coronado, for at least a sunset drink or 7
Great idea.
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Old Apr 8, 2007 | 01:41 AM
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Originally Posted by jangy
but I am ecer more leary of using an OEM modified one.
That just leaves Evo's pulley then,right?
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Old Apr 8, 2007 | 01:46 AM
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That just leaves Evo's pulley then,right?
Actually, RT also has a new design out. I ike how it looks but not the size. I want one that is 170mm and I don't think they have released that one yet. I don't know what EVO has planned for sizes.
165 just isn't gonna do it for what I've already been through and where I wanna go.
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Old Apr 8, 2007 | 01:51 AM
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I think the ASP is the best bet,stock reworked or not.Its still the best deal there.
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Old Apr 8, 2007 | 01:55 AM
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I am pretty dead set at not going with a modified OEM one. From what i gather, that design is not exactly ideal and wasn't specifically made for the AMGs. I smell a few new designs coming out, so I want to be sure to get the "right" one. There has to be a reason why RT chose to make a new design with the same boost, right?
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Old Apr 8, 2007 | 01:56 AM
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I think the ASP is the best bet,stock reworked or not.Its still the best deal there.
ASP is definitely an option. I have heard mixed reviews. They are my default, if I don't find another.
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Old Apr 8, 2007 | 02:07 AM
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if you're not happy with what's on the market, take the initiative yourself and commission a good fabricator to do what you want. odds are you'll still be in the $$$ ballpark compared to most of the overpriced stuff for our cars.

with that said, there's NOTHING wrong with the asp pulley imho and you're over analyzing this one.
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Old Apr 8, 2007 | 02:12 AM
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overpriced stuff for our cars.
Thanks Mikey,and I just got my blood pressure down too.
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Old Apr 8, 2007 | 02:16 AM
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if you're not happy with what's on the market, take the initiative yourself and commission a good fabricator to do what you want. odds are you'll still be in the $$$ ballpark compared to most of the overpriced stuff for our cars.

with that said, there's NOTHING wrong with the asp pulley imho and you're over analyzing this one.
I just don't feel compentent enough to mess with making a pulley.

I know it seems like overanalyzing, but losing one engine was enough to make me reconsider.
As I said, ASP is a definite option. I just wanted to see if naything else is out there before I get it.
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Old Apr 8, 2007 | 02:58 AM
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You would think if anyone was going to make a bigger one it would be Evo,they already have the layout,it just needs to be larger in Diameter is all.
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Old Apr 8, 2007 | 03:31 AM
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I would love EVO to release one. I want their Rotors anyway
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Old Apr 8, 2007 | 03:37 AM
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i dont mean to threadjack but i'm interested too in going with some pulley setup... i'm just really paranoid about warranty issues/problems if there is any kind of big failure and getting blame for having swapped out the pulleys. how is everyone else dealing with it? the risk doesn't seem worth it to me, i know more than likely i will be safe, maybe someone can convince me?
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Old Apr 8, 2007 | 11:32 AM
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i dont mean to threadjack but i'm interested too in going with some pulley setup... i'm just really paranoid about warranty issues/problems if there is any kind of big failure and getting blame for having swapped out the pulleys. how is everyone else dealing with it? the risk doesn't seem worth it to me, i know more than likely i will be safe, maybe someone can convince me?

..............you have valid concerns. My opinion for you would be not to get a pulley upgrade. When you modify these cars, you want to drive them like you stole them. Warranty is an issue. So if are as concerned as you appear to be, you may not drive the car hard enough to make it worth your while.

.............As for pulley choice. ASP. ASP. ASP.



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I would love EVO to release one.
If I am not mistaken I have answered the question of 175 mm crank pulley numerous times.

Yes, it will make more power. However, the reliability of kompressor clutch and kompressor bearings go out the window.

The extra 10HP from extra boost can be easily found in many other parts.

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If I am not mistaken I have answered the question 175 mm crank pulley numerous times.

Yes, it will make more power. However, the reliability of kompresor clutch and komprsessor bearings go out the window.

Sorry if I missed your previous comments on that. That is why i was after a 170mm. i was hoping for a happy medium between the 165 and 175. Any comments on that? Do you feel the 165 is max without going too overborad?
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Sorry if I missed your previous comments on that. That is why i was after a 170mm. i was hoping for a happy medium between the 165 and 175. Any comments on that? Do you feel the 165 is max without going too overborad?
of coarse vadim knows 100% more than i do but if everyone is making 165 pullys im sure there is a reason. i also know renntech wont be comming out with a 175 pullt due to the stress on the motor. like vadim said for 10hp or in your case it would only be 5hp why stress the motor? trust me after you do all the bolt on mods your car is gonna have traction problems on the street anyways.
or here is a idea instead of a bigger pully and constant stress on the motor why no just put in NOS so your motor is only stressed when you want it to be, and alot more than 10hp.....
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Old Apr 8, 2007 | 12:52 PM
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NOS ain't happenning for some time (if ever). I'm not looking for a drag car or just raw power. No disrespect to you, as I actually like your setup and Adam's knowledge, but I don't use RennTech as my peg in the ground. They were at least about to release the 175mm pulley, so they did go through development costs and some research. If it were such a bad idea, why even try it? Also, I never have heard that they dropped the project or what part was stressed the most. I expect cooling issues but the new IC setup will alleviate that.
I do respect Vadim's advice, but he hasn't said NOT to go with a bigger pulley than 165mm. He simply said that the 175mm would stress the Kompressor clutch and bearings. That still leaves my original request of a 170mm open. The only added caviat is that i would like a nice dampening setup and not just a sleeve squeezed over the OEM one.
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Old Apr 8, 2007 | 12:53 PM
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By the way, since I'm getting raped for questioning the paradigm here... why do we have an SC clutch? Why not have the thing just spin?
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By the way, since I'm getting raped for questioning the paradigm here... why do we have an SC clutch? Why not have the thing just spin?
fuel economy is a bonus. one could argue that if we can afford these cars then we shouldn't b*tch about the cost of gas...but filling up more than twice per week with only 200miles/tank like the new m5's would be annoyoing.
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Old Apr 8, 2007 | 01:31 PM
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If it trully is simply, fuel economy, then mine will be a fixed system as soon as i can get it done. I'll let go of some mileage any time to get a smoother engagement. I use mine in th etwisties and having the SC be so "on-off" can be rough to handle. i know that is inherent in SC engines, but that is the pig I chose.
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Originally Posted by Vadim - SoCal
If I am not mistaken I have answered the question of 175 mm crank pulley numerous times.

Yes, it will make more power. However, the reliability of kompressor clutch and kompressor bearings go out the window.

The extra 10HP from extra boost can be easily found in many other parts.
i can understand the extra wear on the bearings (although i don't see it being significant compared to a 165mm pulley) but why the clutch when compared to other mods? one could just as easily argue renntech software will wear out the s/c clutch also since it forces the s/c clutch to engage much sooner and most likely more frequently.
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