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Old 12-06-2008, 08:08 AM
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still on Renntech tune. Also since I have new tranny I believe dealer reflashed my tcu.
So its Renntech ECU/ MB TCU. Nothin was MHP this time around.
NOt sure what ever happened to the MHP stuff. Havent heard back from Andy and havent seen anything.
I was just glad to get 11's on my old setup. New ECu should CRUSH the times of the old...Gonna have to wait til march though. I am done racing for the winter. When MHP gets me my ecu back after break in I will do some Dyno pulls, but its too late in the season to hit any tracks now for me....
Will post my slips in a few...gotta go downstairs to scan.

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Congrats on breaking into the 11's, here's to another 63 in the 11's
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Congrats on breaking into the 11's, here's to another 63 in the 11's


Cool car # 63

11.994 good stuff still need to get the 11.7X runs of the Black Series listed butthe slip James sent me was blurry. So James if you see this just post up your very best run and then your best trap and et in the 1/8th, 1/4, and best 60 ft.

I will fix the list with what I think was on the slip, please correct any errors
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heres a short video of my run...
Not a great video, but documented!

http://www.vimeo.com/2453745
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Originally Posted by Fr33kn63
heres a short video of my run...
Not a great video, but documented!

http://www.vimeo.com/2453745
I love the way you did that vid, wish alot of us had that kind of set up!!

You have a little more in her, work on the 60ft
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I love the way you did that vid, wish alot of us had that kind of set up!!

You have a little more in her, work on the 60ft
Thanks! yeah HD video recording is the way to go!
I didnt have a camera guy this time around, so just tried to set it up the best I could and let it run all day I got a good run of Ahmad's I plan on posting, though its not his fastest to date. Downside to the video is you cant see my launch, but you can hear it. I love how my exhaust sounds now after the work.

Once i get my tuning all straight and get a few other things installed i suspect I will knock .20 off my time in march. Gotta work on 60's and add more power

Thanks though. i was just very glad to make it to the 11's before winter. As soon as I had my 11 sec pass I called it for the day. Still feeling gunshy with new parts.
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Belated Congrats to MACHC5 in his MHP ECU/TCU CLK BLACK SERIES. This is a HUGE achievement as it was thought the stock 63 This is the 4th best pass ever recorded and the car seems to have gained from the MHP tune. Also the fastest 63 passes have not been added to drag times?? I urge you CLK BLACK series drivers to log your times on drag times. The 55 drivers had several 11.1 passes which knocked the 63 off the pages!!! Comon fellas represent, hell you made sub 11.50 pases yet Andy is the only run posted ? There is another 11.83 @118 in a 63 but the owner failed to supply and or post a timeslip, this is an MKB car(ECU) if anyone knows the car or saw the run at Orlando Speedway please post .. Thanks

Here is the run

Stock Clk Black series

11.74@119.17






Fastest N20 passes.

*1. 11.139 127.07 7.209 98.59 1.663 35.0 CLK BS EVOSPORT/MHP ECU/TCU 11/22/08(NOS) 70shot MT ET STREET


*2.11.844 118.03 7.690 93.66 1.752 72.0 CLS63 360 Forged ASR NOS Moroso(car is running NOS)



Fastest All motor, modded and stock passes

1. 11.460 122.18 7.413 96.87 1.733 37.0 CLK BS MHP/ECU TT Motorsports JT55 11/22/08 MIR(New record holder)


2. 11.487 121.40 7.414 96.25 1.730 65.0 CLK BS EVOSPORT Jrcart 8/26/2008


3. 11.595 119.75 7.474 96.01 1.757 39.0 C63 MHP V2 11/22/2008 New entry , new record C63 run MHP

4.11.741 119.17 7.578 94.03 1.779 41.0 CLKBS MACHC5 MHP ECU/TCU ATCO

5. 11.952 118.32 7.756 92.96 1.83 39.0 E63 Oldgixxer(STOCK)3/8/08 ATCO E63 record

6. 11.994 117.80 7.782 92.71 1.821 41.0 E63 Fr33kn63 RT ECU, 12/05/08 ATCO NEW

7. 12.110 115.68 7.847 91.69 1.872 62.0 CLS63030 Juicee63(vrp530)Evotech

8. 12.132 116.67 7.885 92.06 1.916 40.0 E63 AMG 3/10/08 05VENOM (stock)

9. 12.246 115.64 7.93 90.93 1.89 53.0 E63 AMG P30 MB_FOREVER 2/1/08

10.12.340 113.91 8.03 90.55 1.982 64.0 CLS63AMG rarfinancial(Renntech)Fontana

11.12.410 114.140 8.010 89.90 1.927 73.0 E63 AMG 07 TomE63 powerchip Sacramento

12.12.438 114.300 8.151 89.840 1.926 60.0 E63 AMG Evotek ECU 2007 Sean

13.12.460 113.820 8.126 89.820 1.988 63.0 E63 AMG 2007 ZAX63(stock)

14.12.476 113.72 8.113 89.83 1.989 C63 AMG 2008 MTHIS C63 stock

15..12.481 114.190 8.154 89.84 1.926 64.0 E63 AMG 2007 Sean03S55

16.12.507 113.06 8.144 89.50 1.963 54.0 CLS632007 11/12/7 Mathmik stock

17.12.590 113.440 8.228 89.44 2.028 E63 AMG 2007 XABO MIR 11/12/07

18.12.652 113.328 8.228 87.600 2.004 73.0 CLS63 AMG 2007 SAMSSONZ

Runs =nos

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Hey Juicee can you edit this for me...
My pass was 11.994 and it wasnt at MIR...it was at ATCO. Thanks for updating Nice to see more 63's in the sub 12's
Also if this isnt too much to ask...can you highlight my entire entry link and create a link from my record to my vimeo video like this for your list? so when people look at the list they can view the run.

6. 11.994 117.80 7.782 92.71 1.821 41.0 E63 Fr33kn63 RT ECU, 12/05/08 ATCO NEW

THANKS!!!

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Originally Posted by Fr33kn63
Hey Juicee can you edit this for me...
My pass was 11.994 and it wasnt at MIR...it was at ATCO. Thanks for updating Nice to see more 63's in the sub 12's
Also if this isnt too much to ask...can you highlight my entire entry link and create a link from my record to my vimeo video like this for your list? so when people look at the list they can view the run.

6. 11.994 117.80 7.782 92.71 1.821 41.0 E63 Fr33kn63 RT ECU, 12/05/08 ATCO NEW

THANKS!!!
Too cool!!

Im not sure I know how to do what you did. Feel free to copy the list and fix your entry. It would be cool to link many of the videos available to this page.

Great run , and I really do lovethe way you did the video
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Updated:

Stock Clk Black series

11.74@119.17

Fastest N20 passes.

*1. 11.139 127.07 7.209 98.59 1.663 35.0 CLK BS EVOSPORT/MHP ECU/TCU 11/22/08(NOS) 70shot MT ET STREET


*2.11.844 118.03 7.690 93.66 1.752 72.0 CLS63 360 Forged ASR NOS Moroso(car is running NOS)



Fastest All motor, modded and stock passes

1. 11.460 122.18 7.413 96.87 1.733 37.0 CLK BS MHP/ECU TT Motorsports JT55 11/22/08 MIR(New record holder)


2. 11.487 121.40 7.414 96.25 1.730 65.0 CLK BS EVOSPORT Jrcart 8/26/2008


3. 11.595 119.75 7.474 96.01 1.757 39.0 C63 MHP V2 11/22/2008 New entry , new record C63 run MHP

4.11.741 119.17 7.578 94.03 1.779 41.0 CLKBS MACHC5(stock)ATCO #1 stock

5. 11.952 118.32 7.756 92.96 1.83 39.0 E63 Oldgixxer(STOCK)3/8/08 ATCO E63 record

6. 11.994 117.80 7.782 92.71 1.821 41.0 E63 Fr33kn63 RT ECU, 12/05/08 ATCO NEW

7. 12.110 115.68 7.847 91.69 1.872 62.0 CLS63030 Juicee63(vrp530)Evotech

8. 12.132 116.67 7.885 92.06 1.916 40.0 E63 AMG 3/10/08 05VENOM (stock)

9. 12.246 115.64 7.93 90.93 1.89 53.0 E63 AMG P30 MB_FOREVER 2/1/08

10.12.340 113.91 8.03 90.55 1.982 64.0 CLS63AMG rarfinancial(Renntech)Fontana

11.12.410 114.140 8.010 89.90 1.927 73.0 E63 AMG 07 TomE63 powerchip Sacramento

12.12.438 114.300 8.151 89.840 1.926 60.0 E63 AMG Evotek ECU 2007 Sean

13.12.460 113.820 8.126 89.820 1.988 63.0 E63 AMG 2007 ZAX63(stock)

14.12.476 113.72 8.113 89.83 1.989 C63 AMG 2008 MTHIS C63 stock

15..12.481 114.190 8.154 89.84 1.926 64.0 E63 AMG 2007 Sean03S55

16.12.507 113.06 8.144 89.50 1.963 54.0 CLS632007 11/12/7 Mathmik stock

17.12.590 113.440 8.228 89.44 2.028 E63 AMG 2007 XABO MIR 11/12/07

18.12.652 113.328 8.228 87.600 2.004 73.0 CLS63 AMG 2007 SAMSSONZ

Runs =nos
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Belated Congrats to MACHC5 in his STOCK CLK BLACK SERIES.. Well folks I believe this is the very fatsest stock pass in a 63 to date. This places the 63 stock right on par with the very fastest stock 55 time . This is a HUGE achievement as it was thought the stock 63's would never hit close to the stock 55's. Looks like this finally puts some teeth into what I predicted a last year. This is the 4th best pass ever recorded and #1 stock pass to date. Also the fastest 63 passes have not been added to drag times?? I urge you CLK BLACK series drivers to log your times on drag times. The 55 drivers had several 11.1 passes which knocked the 63 off the pages!!! Comon fellas represent, hell you made sub 11.50 pases yet Andy is the only run posted ? There is another 11.83 @118 in a 63 but the owner failed to supply and or post a timeslip, this is an MKB car(ECU) if anyone knows the car or saw the run at Orlando Speedway please post .. Thanks

Here is the run

Stock Clk Black series

11.74@119.17






Fastest N20 passes.

*1. 11.139 127.07 7.209 98.59 1.663 35.0 CLK BS EVOSPORT/MHP ECU/TCU 11/22/08(NOS) 70shot MT ET STREET


*2.11.844 118.03 7.690 93.66 1.752 72.0 CLS63 360 Forged ASR NOS Moroso(car is running NOS)



Fastest All motor, modded and stock passes

1. 11.460 122.18 7.413 96.87 1.733 37.0 CLK BS MHP/ECU TT Motorsports JT55 11/22/08 MIR(New record holder)


2. 11.487 121.40 7.414 96.25 1.730 65.0 CLK BS EVOSPORT Jrcart 8/26/2008


3. 11.595 119.75 7.474 96.01 1.757 39.0 C63 MHP V2 11/22/2008 New entry , new record C63 run MHP

4.11.741 119.17 7.578 94.03 1.779 41.0 CLKBS MACHC5(stock)ATCO #1 stock

5. 11.952 118.32 7.756 92.96 1.83 39.0 E63 Oldgixxer(STOCK)3/8/08 ATCO E63 record

6. 11.994 117.80 7.782 92.71 1.821 41.0 E63 Fr33kn63 RT ECU, 12/05/08 ATCO NEW http://www.vimeo.com/2453745

7. 12.110 115.68 7.847 91.69 1.872 62.0 CLS63030 Juicee63(vrp530)Evotech

8. 12.132 116.67 7.885 92.06 1.916 40.0 E63 AMG 3/10/08 05VENOM (stock)

9. 12.246 115.64 7.93 90.93 1.89 53.0 E63 AMG P30 MB_FOREVER 2/1/08

10.12.340 113.91 8.03 90.55 1.982 64.0 CLS63AMG rarfinancial(Renntech)Fontana

11.12.410 114.140 8.010 89.90 1.927 73.0 E63 AMG 07 TomE63 powerchip Sacramento

12.12.438 114.300 8.151 89.840 1.926 60.0 E63 AMG Evotek ECU 2007 Sean

13.12.460 113.820 8.126 89.820 1.988 63.0 E63 AMG 2007 ZAX63(stock)

14.12.476 113.72 8.113 89.83 1.989 C63 AMG 2008 MTHIS C63 stock

15..12.481 114.190 8.154 89.84 1.926 64.0 E63 AMG 2007 Sean03S55

16.12.507 113.06 8.144 89.50 1.963 54.0 CLS632007 11/12/7 Mathmik stock

17.12.590 113.440 8.228 89.44 2.028 E63 AMG 2007 XABO MIR 11/12/07

18.12.652 113.328 8.228 87.600 2.004 73.0 CLS63 AMG 2007 SAMSSONZ

Runs =nos

Josh, I thought his 11.7 was with an ECU tune????? So now we are calling ECU tunes stock????
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Originally Posted by jrcart
Josh, I thought his 11.7 was with an ECU tune????? So now we are calling ECU tunes stock????
My apologies. I do see MACHC5's car was recently tuned by MHP

Please note the fastest stock pass still belongs to an E63(Oldgixxer)

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Ok we have yet another sub 12 second pass in a 63!

Congrats to: Keith in his MKB Header and MKB ECU equipped C63, amazing pass with a great 60ft.




*1. 11.139 127.07 7.209 98.59 1.663 35.0 CLK BS EVOSPORT/MHP ECU/TCU 11/22/08(NOS) 70shot MT ET STREET


*2. 11.844 118.03 7.690 93.66 1.752 72.0 CLS63 360 Forged ASR NOS Moroso(car is running NOS)



Fastest All motor, modded and stock passes

1. 11.460 122.18 7.413 96.87 1.733 37.0 CLK BS MHP/ECU TT Motorsports JT55 11/22/08 MIR(New record holder)


2. 11.487 121.40 7.414 96.25 1.730 65.0 CLK BS EVOSPORT Jrcart 8/26/2008


3. 11.595 119.75 7.474 96.01 1.757 39.0 C63 MHP V2 11/22/2008 New entry , new record C63 run MHP

4. 11.741 119.17 7.578 94.03 1.779 41.0 CLKBS MACHC5(MHP ECU/TCU ATCO

5. 11.833 118.03 7.625 93.95 1.795 C63 MKB headers Orlando Speedway (New entry)

6. 11.952 118.32 7.756 92.96 1.83 39.0 E63 Oldgixxer(STOCK)3/8/08 ATCO E63 record

7. 11.994 117.80 7.782 92.71 1.821 41.0 E63 Fr33kn63 RT ECU, 12/05/08 ATCO NEW

8. 12.110 115.68 7.847 91.69 1.872 62.0 CLS63030 Juicee63(vrp530)Evotech

9. 12.132 116.67 7.885 92.06 1.916 40.0 E63 AMG 3/10/08 05VENOM (stock)

10. 12.246 115.64 7.93 90.93 1.89 53.0 E63 AMG P30 MB_FOREVER 2/1/08

11.12.340 113.91 8.03 90.55 1.982 64.0 CLS63AMG rarfinancial(Renntech)Fontana

12.12.410 114.140 8.010 89.90 1.927 73.0 E63 AMG 07 TomE63 powerchip Sacramento

13.12.438 114.300 8.151 89.840 1.926 60.0 E63 AMG Evotek ECU 2007 Sean

14.12.460 113.820 8.126 89.820 1.988 63.0 E63 AMG 2007 ZAX63(stock)

15.12.476 113.72 8.113 89.83 1.989 C63 AMG 2008 MTHIS C63 stock

16.12.481 114.190 8.154 89.84 1.926 64.0 E63 AMG 2007 Sean03S55

17.12.507 113.06 8.144 89.50 1.963 54.0 CLS632007 11/12/7 Mathmik stock

18.12.590 113.440 8.228 89.44 2.028 E63 AMG 2007 XABO MIR 11/12/07

19.12.652 113.328 8.228 87.600 2.004 73.0 CLS63 AMG 2007 SAMSSONZ

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let's get that entire Top 10 all in the 11's. Hopefully we will have a 63 in the 10's very soon....and they said the 63's were slow
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Josh, I thought his 11.7 was with an ECU tune????? So now we are calling ECU tunes stock????
Originally Posted by jrcart
let's get that entire Top 10 all in the 11's. Hopefully we will have a 63 in the 10's very soon....and they said the 63's were slow
Speaking of lists.....


Get your 11.1 up on drag times and urge the other Black series cars to get on drag times, The barrage of low 11 second 55 passes, especially that other CLK piloted by Ahmad, has bumped the 63's off page 1.

Your 11.x gets us back on page one which does consist of several NOS passes by 55's

I think We will have 3 more 63's under 12 seconds after Famoso

Great runs Jim, you will hit 10's just a matter of staying away from the booze and the ladies, LOL
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Speaking of lists.....


Get your 11.1 up on drag times and urge the other Black series cars to get on drag times, The barrage of low 11 second 55 passes, especially that other CLK piloted by Ahmad, has bumped the 63's off page 1.

Your 11.x gets us back on page one which does consist of several NOS passes by 55's

I think We will have 3 more 63's under 12 seconds after Famoso

Great runs Jim, you will hit 10's just a matter of staying away from the booze and the ladies, LOL
I have never even been on the Drag Times website...feel free to post up my info if that is possible for you to do so.
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My apologies. I do see MACHC5's car was recently tuned by MHP

Please note the fastest stock pass still belongs to an E63(Oldgixxer)
Josh,

I'll be retesting my stock ECU vs. an MHP ECU in an attempt to come to an objective conclusion of the MHP ECU's performance and value differences.

My reason for doing this is, I'm not sure any performance comparison has been done on the same vehicle, same day, at same location.

God knows, there has been way... too much bench racing with adjustment formulas about Air Temps, Track Prep and icing motors for 30 mins between runs...

And as the ET/MPH on these cars change from track to track and day to day and Until "back to back" testing is done, I'm holding no opinion on the MHP ECU's having value.


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Originally Posted by MACHC5
Josh,

I'll be retesting my stock ECU vs. an MHP ECU in an attempt to come to an objective conclusion of the MHP ECU's performance and value differences.

My reason for doing this is, I'm not sure any performance comparison has been done on the same vehicle, same day, at same location.

God knows, there has been way... to much bench racing with adjustment formulas about Air Temps, Track Prep and icing motors for 30 mins between runs...

And as the ET/MPH on these cars change from track to track and day to day and Until "back to back" testing is done, I'm holding no opinion on the MHP ECU's having value.


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Very cool, I'm sure EVERYONE will be anxiously awaiting your findings.
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Josh,

I'll be retesting my stock ECU vs. an MHP ECU in an attempt to come to an objective conclusion of the MHP ECU's performance and value differences.

My reason for doing this is, I'm not sure any performance comparison has been done on the same vehicle, same day, at same location.

God knows, there has been way... too much bench racing with adjustment formulas about Air Temps, Track Prep and icing motors for 30 mins between runs...

And as the ET/MPH on these cars change from track to track and day to day and Until "back to back" testing is done, I'm holding no opinion on the MHP ECU's having value.


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We appreciate the dedication but again, you won't see optimal results for 200 miles. Unless you plan on testing with the stock ECU, then swapping, driving for 200 miles then retesting the data will be useless.
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Originally Posted by MACHC5
Josh,

I'll be retesting my stock ECU vs. an MHP ECU in an attempt to come to an objective conclusion of the MHP ECU's performance and value differences.

My reason for doing this is, I'm not sure any performance comparison has been done on the same vehicle, same day, at same location.

God knows, there has been way... too much bench racing with adjustment formulas about Air Temps, Track Prep and icing motors for 30 mins between runs...

And as the ET/MPH on these cars change from track to track and day to day and Until "back to back" testing is done, I'm holding no opinion on the MHP ECU's having value.


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It maybe beneficial to compare averages, not just fastest runs. What was your average before tune and what was your average after the tune?
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We appreciate the dedication but again, you won't see optimal results for 200 miles. Unless you plan on testing with the stock ECU, then swapping, driving for 200 miles then retesting the data will be useless.
I'm looking for the average weighted difference, starting with 5 to 6 runs with ECU A, then 5 to 6 runs with ECU B at the track.

I'll then wait 1 hour and repeat the testing for a second set of runs.

Starting with ECU B and then changing to ECU A, again doing 5 to 6 runs on each.


QUOTE by MB_Forever
It maybe beneficial to compare averages, not just fastest runs. What was your average before tune and what was your average after the tune?


The averages of two events 9 months apart on these 63 based vehicles is again bench racing.

Only a same day Back to Back ECU testing, will give the concrete results most are seeking.

MachC5.
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Originally Posted by MACHC5

The averages of two events 9 months apart on these 63 based vehicles is again bench racing.

Only a same day Back to Back ECU testing, will give the concrete results most are seeking.

MachC5.
Good point, and it'd be very interesting seeing the results that way.....

However, just for kicks, and to get a general overview of the numbers, can you average out the runs from both of those rentals to give a rough estimate on where the numbers stand? If you give me some of the times, I can correct both sets of times to zero level for you if you like before you average them out for more relative results.

By the way, your car is running very consistently....

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I been quiet here awhile but im going to officially say im good for at least an 11.2 when i come out again in say MArch - April.
I had the 11.4 on my 9th run in a row!
only stopping to swap tires - first time to the drag strip in 15 yrs and a slammed suspension and 1100 miles on the motor.

I'll have the proper tires a better ride height and a more broken in motor.
and maybe some more tricks up my sleeve.

But it will prob. be moot by then Jim will prob. be running 9's by March.

I def. left some on the table.







Originally Posted by juicee63
Jimmy seriously bro? What are you trying to say? Just accept the fact in stock trim you did not have the fastest/quickest 63, it is simple.

You currently hold 90% of the 63 records, hats off to you for participating but please attempt to recognize there are others on this list that earned a spot and deserve some respect.

also please submit the RECORD pass on the gas!!!! How can you not post up yer time? 11.huh at 126?????????Comon Jim post a slip
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Originally Posted by MACHC5


I'm looking for the average weighted difference, starting with 5 to 6 runs with ECU A, then 5 to 6 runs with ECU B at the track.

I'll then wait 1 hour and repeat the testing for a second set of runs.

Starting with ECU B and then changing to ECU A, again doing 5 to 6 runs on each.


Sorry Jim but that proecdure is 100% flawed and will yield only skewed numbers. Anyone that's been tuned by us or even other tuners such as Renntech (aka rarfinancial) will tell you the tune isn't optimal for 200 miles. The first 30-40 being especially critical to how quickly the units learn--if not beat upon in manual mode it will take longer than 200 miles.

I agree with Mo in that taking the average of a number of runs with both ECUs (fully learned) on different nights is the best overall way to test tune A v tune B.



Only a same day Back to Back ECU testing, will give the concrete results most are seeking.

MachC5.
Again I applaud your enthusiasim but the results will be anything but concrete if the above method is used.


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