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When you fix the list i would suggest that we seperate the modded 63's from the stockers. I would think the stock class only mod would be removal of the filters? What do you think Juice? 
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Give us some AIR and we are right there!!
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Don't take out corrected times, just make a separate list for it. That way whoever is interested in corrections can use that information and whoever is not can ignore it. 
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I am waiting on an answer from NHRA, I will do what they rec.
I think the correction very accurate on the 63, very accurate.
But since they are not actual runs I need to make sure that is Clear to everyone reading this thread.
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Ok I am keeping the list as IS!!!
And modded ECU will be noted with a **
People that want to do it differently , go ahead, but I spent a LOT OF TIME on this, and I believe it to be reasonable and accurate. The adjusted time is clearly noted and the record will belong to the person runnning the FASTEST ACTUAL TIME.
And modded ECU will be noted with a **
People that want to do it differently , go ahead, but I spent a LOT OF TIME on this, and I believe it to be reasonable and accurate. The adjusted time is clearly noted and the record will belong to the person runnning the FASTEST ACTUAL TIME.
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CONGRATS TO ZAX63
On stock tires 1700 miles odo, new best ET
This is the fastest to date ACTUAL run non ECU tuned 63. I will fix the data when I have some time. 05Venom has fastest 1/8 mile and 1/4 mile trap 90.3 and 115.XX, This is best ET of a vehicle in stock form no ecu tune either car Venom or Zax
R/T .146
60' 1.98
330 5.36
1/8 8.12
mph 89.82
1000 10.48
1/4 12.469
MPH 113.82
1. Zax63, 09/05/2007, NED DA 100-200ft, stock tires, stock car,filters removed, 12.46@113.82
On stock tires 1700 miles odo, new best ET
This is the fastest to date ACTUAL run non ECU tuned 63. I will fix the data when I have some time. 05Venom has fastest 1/8 mile and 1/4 mile trap 90.3 and 115.XX, This is best ET of a vehicle in stock form no ecu tune either car Venom or Zax
R/T .146
60' 1.98
330 5.36
1/8 8.12
mph 89.82
1000 10.48
1/4 12.469
MPH 113.82
1. Zax63, 09/05/2007, NED DA 100-200ft, stock tires, stock car,filters removed, 12.46@113.82
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Two things to note:
1. My car is experiencing hesitation out of first gear...(sometimes SEVERE)
2. My car is not shifting at redline.
I am hesitant to bring it back to the dealer, don't want to loose my high trap speeds if they screw around with the 'flash' or whatever.
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Josh, Don't know if you remember but my car was starting in 2ng gear in 'S' mode. I brought it in and the service department updated the engine and tranny software. Don't really know if they 'flashed' the car and I am sure it is different than the 55 'flash' people are talking about. However, all my 114 and 115 MPH trap speeds were after this update. Personally, I think it is because of the 1st gear start now and not so much the software update.
Two things to note:
1. My car is experiencing hesitation out of first gear...(sometimes SEVERE)
2. My car is not shifting at redline.
I am hesitant to bring it back to the dealer, don't want to loose my high trap speeds if they screw around with the 'flash' or whatever.
Two things to note:
1. My car is experiencing hesitation out of first gear...(sometimes SEVERE)
2. My car is not shifting at redline.
I am hesitant to bring it back to the dealer, don't want to loose my high trap speeds if they screw around with the 'flash' or whatever.
Look at the thread E63 hesitation, or hit the track one more time then briong it in if the car shifts out early or hesitates. You likely need the new Valve body bracket for the flap.
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CONGRATS TO ZAX63
On stock tires 1700 miles odo, new best ET
This is the fastest to date ACTUAL run non ECU tuned 63. I will fix the data when I have some time. 05Venom has fastest 1/8 mile and 1/4 mile trap 90.3 and 115.XX, This is best ET of a vehicle in stock form no ecu tune either car Venom or Zax
R/T .146
60' 1.98
330 5.36
1/8 8.12
mph 89.82
1000 10.48
1/4 12.469
MPH 113.82
1. Zax63, 09/05/2007, NED DA 100-200ft, stock tires, stock car,filters removed, 12.46@113.82
On stock tires 1700 miles odo, new best ET
This is the fastest to date ACTUAL run non ECU tuned 63. I will fix the data when I have some time. 05Venom has fastest 1/8 mile and 1/4 mile trap 90.3 and 115.XX, This is best ET of a vehicle in stock form no ecu tune either car Venom or Zax
R/T .146
60' 1.98
330 5.36
1/8 8.12
mph 89.82
1000 10.48
1/4 12.469
MPH 113.82
1. Zax63, 09/05/2007, NED DA 100-200ft, stock tires, stock car,filters removed, 12.46@113.82
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[/IMG]The closest weather results for 09/05/2007 at 07:09 pm
Time recorded 6:55 PM
Temperature °F 60.8
Dew Point °F 50.0
Altimeter Setting 30.18 Inches Mercury
Absolute Pressure: 30.09 Inches
Density Altitude: 98.3 feet Track Elelvation: 90 feet
UnCorrected ET:
12.469 (sec) @ 113.82 (MPH)
Corrected ET to Sea Level:
12.456 (sec) @ 113.94 (MPH)
Nearly perfect conditions. Great Run Z!!!
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My corrections were affirmed by CIC and SAE as a GEOPOTENTIAL ALTITUDE CALC..It is 100% accurate and puts the times to zero feet across the usa, we either correct or we do not. since we have cars running all over the USA we must keep the DA correction. Thanks Bluemax,
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Heres the fastest time slips(sampling)
1. CLS 63 Juicee63 Sacramento, Tom E63 (ECU tune Powerchip)
2. CLS63 Juicee63 LACR record 60 ft and random slip
3. Zax63 record stock run 9/5/2007 E63
4. Sean E63 ECU tune (Evotech)
1. CLS 63 Juicee63 Sacramento, Tom E63 (ECU tune Powerchip)
2. CLS63 Juicee63 LACR record 60 ft and random slip
3. Zax63 record stock run 9/5/2007 E63
4. Sean E63 ECU tune (Evotech)
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To answer the inevitable question (I've seen it posted somewhere here before) "why does the lane say 'hemi' on one lane and 'dodge' on the other?" New England Dragway lets companies sponsor the lanes, in this case apparently Dodge did the sponsoring. You can hear them announce it in that video where I race the 06 vette, which you can watch under kill stories. This race I believe was against a Neon turbo. Not kill-worthy material. Like saying I beat up a guy who was sleeping...
but ET of only 12.91
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[/IMG]Here is my two best runs.
Your corrected time is #1 for ET, ranks in the top 4 for trap speed.
I will do a corrected and uncorrected list
I have corrected all my slips and my run on 9/21 was the fastest my car has gone.
1. Zax63, 09/05/2007, NED DA 100-200ft, stock tires, stock car,filters removed, 12.46@113.82(12.45@113.92)corrected
2. Tom(COVINA) E63 12.32@114.127 2200 mi Fastest Timeslip6/2/2007.BFG
corrected and uncorrected. See above 12.41@114.127 DYNO(powerchip)
3. Sean03S55 12.4381@114.19 ,09/01/2007 (Toronto)(evotech ecu)
*4. Juicee63 12.334@112.145 05/23/2007 4625 lbs 5970 mi DYNO
*5. Bluemax 12.36@116 Firebird Az 05/4/2007 2100 odo lbs
*6. SAMSSONZ 12.42@112.3 LACR 6/20/2007 13,400miles 4575 lbs
7. XABO 12.5X @114 MIR 3000 odo E63
*8. MB_Forever 12.512@116.201 8/24/2007 E63 030
9. juicee63 12.61@113.8 4625# 07/07/07 (fastest CLS63)
10. juicee63 12.64@111.8 4625# 06/02/07
11. 05VENOM 12.651 @114 Englishtown NJ 04/xx/07 2000 odo lbs
12. 05VENOM 12.765@114.88 fastest uncorrected trap
13. TREZ63 12.802 (sec) @ 109.724 (MPH) 6000 MI lacr 5/9/07CLS
14. DEREKFSU 13.018@108.84 stock E63 lbs
15.* MHK 13.18@110 9/29/06 CLS 8:30 pm
* INDICATES SAE CORRECTED TIME WITH DA
Best 1/8th mile
1.*Juicee63 CLS 7.928 (sec) @ 87.852
2.*Tom (Covina ) 7.960 sec@90(Powerchip ECU)
3.*SAMSSONZ CLS 1/8 8.03@89
4. Sean03S55 E63 8.15@89.84
4. Johnny E63 1/8 8.1959 @ 87.98mph(NOT VERIFIED)
5.*Bluemax E63 1/8 8.33@87.68
6.*TREZ63 CLS 1/8 8.39@ 87
Best 60 ft times for a 63
1.Juicee63 1.699 NEW 60 ft record(CLS 63)
2.Tom 1.92(Powerchip ECU)
3.Sean03S55 1.923(evotech ECU)
3.Bluemax 2.03
4.05VENOM 2.04
BEST ACTUAL
1.TomE63 12.416@114.127(pc ecu)
2.TomE63 12.424@114.14(pc ecu)
3.Sean03S55(E63) 12.438@114.19 (e ecu)
4.Zax63 12.46@113.82
5.05VENOM 12.59@115.21
6.Xabo 12.59@114.10
7.MB_Forever 12.593@111.43 8.MB_Forever 12.60@112.32
9.Juicee63 12.61@113.8
10.Samssonz 12.652@113.88
Best Corrected
1.MB_Forever 12.24@114.68
2.MB_Forever 12.264@ 115.498
3.Juicee63 12.31@115.53
4.TomE63 12.32@114.97
5.Juicee63 12.334@112.14
6.Juicee63 12.352115.241
7.Bluemax 12.36@116
8.TomE63 12.37@114.6
9.Samssonz 12.41@114.68
10.Zax63 12.45@113.92
11. MB_Forever 12.512@116.201
Fastest stock ,everything stock
1.Zax63 12.46 9/5/2007 NED
2.MB_FOREVER 12.59 9/21/2007 (Amir) driver, California speedway 4k miles
3.05VENOM 12.59@115.21
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I think I like The autoclub dragway ALOT!!!
Johnny seriously , I think I could dip into the 12.5's with a cooler day. Next time we put dr's on the E63 and let you bust off a 1.7 60 ft time, and a 12.25@115......Your time 11.7 at 118.2 was stupendous! I hope we can do it again in October and watch you bust off a 11.5@120......WOOOHOOOO.
Wish a stock 55 would show up so we could have a better comparison of same cars same track?
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Here is my two best runs. The slip with my best time from 9/21 also contains gE63's best run from 9/21/07. congrats Greg, great sub 13 pass. We need to lose 100 lbs, LOL, flippin AMIR @150 lbs awesome. Maybe he can drive all of our cars!
1. Zax63, 09/05/2007, NED DA 100-200ft, stock tires, stock car,filters removed, 12.46@113.82(12.45@113.92)corrected
2. Tom(COVINA) E63 12.32@114.127 2200 mi Fastest Timeslip6/2/2007.BFG
corrected and uncorrected. See above 12.41@114.127 DYNO(powerchip)
3. Sean03S55 12.4381@114.19 ,09/01/2007 (Toronto)(evotech ecu)
*4. Juicee63 12.334@112.145 05/23/2007 4625 lbs 5970 mi DYNO
*5. Bluemax 12.36@116 Firebird Az 05/4/2007 2100 odo lbs
*6. SAMSSONZ 12.42@112.3 LACR 6/20/2007 13,400miles 4575 lbs
7. XABO 12.5X @114 MIR 3000 odo E63
*8. MB_Forever 12.512@116.201 8/24/2007 E63 030
9. juicee63 12.61@113.8 4625# 07/07/07 (fastest CLS63)
10. juicee63 12.64@111.8 4625# 06/02/07
11. 05VENOM 12.651 @114 Englishtown NJ 04/xx/07 2000 odo lbs
12. 05VENOM 12.765@114.88 fastest uncorrected trap
13. TREZ63 12.802 (sec) @ 109.724 (MPH) 6000 MI lacr 5/9/07CLS
14. gE63 12.861@110 14000 mi 9/21/2007 stock on HRE 19" Cal Dragway
14. DEREKFSU 13.018@108.84 stock E63 lbs
15.* MHK 13.18@110 9/29/06 CLS 8:30 pm
* INDICATES SAE CORRECTED TIME WITH DA
Best 1/8th mile
1.*Juicee63 CLS 7.928 (sec) @ 87.852
2.*Tom (Covina ) 7.960 sec@90(Powerchip ECU)
3.*SAMSSONZ CLS 1/8 8.03@89
4. Sean03S55 E63 8.15@89.84
4. Johnny E63 1/8 8.1959 @ 87.98mph(NOT VERIFIED)
5.*Bluemax E63 1/8 8.33@87.68
6.*TREZ63 CLS 1/8 8.39@ 87
Best 60 ft times for a 63
1.Juicee63 1.699 NEW 60 ft record(CLS 63)
2.Tom 1.92(Powerchip ECU)
3.Sean03S55 1.923(evotech ECU)
4.1.94 MB_Forever
5.Juicee1.95
6.05VENOM 1.97
7.gE63 1.99
BEST ACTUAL
1.TomE63 12.416@114.127(pc ecu)
2.TomE63 12.424@114.14(pc ecu)
3.Sean03S55(E63) 12.438@114.19 (e ecu)
4.Zax63 12.46@113.82 #1 stock
5.05VENOM 12.59@115.21
6.Xabo 12.59@114.10
7.MB_Forever 12.593@111.43 8.MB_Forever 12.60@112.32
9.Juicee63 12.61@113.8 #1 CLS
10.Samssonz 12.652@113.88
Best Corrected
1.MB_Forever 12.24@114.68
2.MB_Forever 12.264@ 115.498
3.Juicee63 12.31@115.53
4.TomE63 12.32@114.97
5.Juicee63 12.334@112.14
6.Juicee63 12.352115.241
7.Bluemax 12.36@116
8.TomE63 12.37@114.6
9.Samssonz 12.41@114.68
10.Zax63 12.45@113.92
11. MB_Forever 12.512@116.201
12. gE63 12.515@113.113
Fastest stock ,everything stock
1.Zax63 12.46 9/5/2007 NED
2.MB_FOREVER 12.59 9/21/2007 (Amir) driver, California speedway 4k miles
3.05VENOM 12.59@115.21 best trap
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[/IMG]Here is my two best runs. The slip with my best time from 9/21 also contains gE63's best run from 9/21/07. congrats Greg, great sub 13 pass. We need to lose 100 lbs, LOL, flippin AMIR @150 lbs awesome. Maybe he can drive all of our cars!
1. Zax63, 09/05/2007, NED DA 100-200ft, stock tires, stock car,filters removed, 12.46@113.82(12.45@113.92)corrected
2. Tom(COVINA) E63 12.32@114.127 2200 mi Fastest Timeslip6/2/2007.BFG
corrected and uncorrected. See above 12.41@114.127 DYNO(powerchip)
3. Sean03S55 12.4381@114.19 ,09/01/2007 (Toronto)(evotech ecu)
*4. Juicee63 12.334@112.145 05/23/2007 4625 lbs 5970 mi DYNO
*5. Bluemax 12.36@116 Firebird Az 05/4/2007 2100 odo lbs
*6. SAMSSONZ 12.42@112.3 LACR 6/20/2007 13,400miles 4575 lbs
7. XABO 12.5X @114 MIR 3000 odo E63
*8. MB_Forever 12.512@116.201 8/24/2007 E63 030
9. juicee63 12.61@113.8 4625# 07/07/07 (fastest CLS63)
10. juicee63 12.64@111.8 4625# 06/02/07
11. 05VENOM 12.651 @114 Englishtown NJ 04/xx/07 2000 odo lbs
12. 05VENOM 12.765@114.88 fastest uncorrected trap
13. TREZ63 12.802 (sec) @ 109.724 (MPH) 6000 MI lacr 5/9/07CLS
14. gE63 12.861@110 14000 mi 9/21/2007 stock on HRE 19" Cal Dragway
14. DEREKFSU 13.018@108.84 stock E63 lbs
15.* MHK 13.18@110 9/29/06 CLS 8:30 pm
* INDICATES SAE CORRECTED TIME WITH DA
Best 1/8th mile
1.*Juicee63 CLS 7.928 (sec) @ 87.852
2.*Tom (Covina ) 7.960 sec@90(Powerchip ECU)
3.*SAMSSONZ CLS 1/8 8.03@89
4. Sean03S55 E63 8.15@89.84
4. Johnny E63 1/8 8.1959 @ 87.98mph(NOT VERIFIED)
5.*Bluemax E63 1/8 8.33@87.68
6.*TREZ63 CLS 1/8 8.39@ 87
Best 60 ft times for a 63
1.Juicee63 1.699 NEW 60 ft record(CLS 63)
2.Tom 1.92(Powerchip ECU)
3.Sean03S55 1.923(evotech ECU)
4.1.94 MB_Forever
5.Juicee1.95
6.05VENOM 1.97
7.gE63 1.99
BEST ACTUAL
1.TomE63 12.416@114.127(pc ecu)
2.TomE63 12.424@114.14(pc ecu)
3.Sean03S55(E63) 12.438@114.19 (e ecu)
4.Zax63 12.46@113.82 #1 stock
5.05VENOM 12.59@115.21
6.Xabo 12.59@114.10
7.MB_Forever 12.593@111.43 8.MB_Forever 12.60@112.32
9.Juicee63 12.61@113.8 #1 CLS
10.Samssonz 12.652@113.88
Best Corrected
1.MB_Forever 12.24@114.68
2.MB_Forever 12.264@ 115.498
3.Juicee63 12.31@115.53
4.TomE63 12.32@114.97
5.Juicee63 12.334@112.14
6.Juicee63 12.352115.241
7.Bluemax 12.36@116
8.TomE63 12.37@114.6
9.Samssonz 12.41@114.68
10.Zax63 12.45@113.92
11. MB_Forever 12.512@116.201
12. gE63 12.515@113.113
Fastest stock ,everything stock
1.Zax63 12.46 9/5/2007 NED
2.MB_FOREVER 12.59 9/21/2007 (Amir) driver, California speedway 4k miles
3.05VENOM 12.59@115.21 best trap
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Please email or PM slips if you have run and are not on the list and would like to be included in the 63 data pool. This is open to ALL sixty three models.
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Juicee, one of Amir's runs had a quarter mile trap of 88.99 mph, can you please list it?
Also, does the removal of charcoal filters count as 100% stock?
When are we going to rent Sacramento or Famoso?
Also, does the removal of charcoal filters count as 100% stock?
When are we going to rent Sacramento or Famoso?
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Post the 89.9 trap as it is certainly one of the highest 1/8th mile traps I have ever seen for a 63. I hit 88.5 on 9/21, Your corrected runs at Famoso actually were higher traps than the runs at the dragway.
Oh wow I see IT !!!!!!!!!!
I think your car has the fastest 1/8th mile trap speed in stock trim !!
88.99 WOOOOOHOOOO. oops 05VENOM was 90.15? Although we need a timeslip , poor guy always has probs scanning em. Hey VENOM , do you have your time slips of the best 63 trap speeds?
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I would say that a car with Carbon Filters removed should be considered STOCK. Only USA gets them.. My M5 came without it... (Brazil) and its Stock. Europe is the very same thing... no CF.
Does anybody else noticed that 63's are still behind 55k and M5's? There's a good amount of data already (probably more passes than the M5 since M onwers dont track as much) and although traps are getting better, they're still not on the same level and ET's are still a bit higher. I really dont want to start a war, just curious I do know that 55k will still be king in the 1/4, but i cant understand why they are behind M5's... isn't the 63 supposed to be easier to launch... 
Does anybody else noticed that 63's are still behind 55k and M5's? There's a good amount of data already (probably more passes than the M5 since M onwers dont track as much) and although traps are getting better, they're still not on the same level and ET's are still a bit higher. I really dont want to start a war, just curious
I do know that 55k will still be king in the 1/4, but i cant understand why they are behind M5's... isn't the 63 supposed to be easier to launch...
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I would say that a car with Carbon Filters removed should be considered STOCK. Only USA gets them.. My M5 came without it... (Brazil) and its Stock. Europe is the very same thing... no CF.
Does anybody else noticed that 63's are still behind 55k and M5's? There's a good amount of data already (probably more passes than the M5 since M onwers dont track as much) and although traps are getting better, they're still not on the same level and ET's are still a bit higher. I really dont want to start a war, just curious I do know that 55k will still be king in the 1/4, but i cant understand why they are behind M5's... isn't the 63 supposed to be easier to launch...
Does anybody else noticed that 63's are still behind 55k and M5's? There's a good amount of data already (probably more passes than the M5 since M onwers dont track as much) and although traps are getting better, they're still not on the same level and ET's are still a bit higher. I really dont want to start a war, just curious
I do know that 55k will still be king in the 1/4, but i cant understand why they are behind M5's... isn't the 63 supposed to be easier to launch... No way is the 63 behind the M5 on a drag strip. We raced heads up several times and the M5 had NO CHANCE vs. the 63. as far as the 55 , 1 page of results cannot be compared with 4 years of runs. The 55 modded is king but in stock trim difference is negligible
