JP465NY

For the second time I got a warning about engine oil level. I have 2800 miles on the car. The first time I got the warning with about 1300 miles. Seems to be a pattern. The service center is currently running an oil consumption test. Could this be attributed to the break-in period?

juicee63

Seems we all had this happen at the 3k mark. It stops seemingly after this 1st or second oil change. Oil consumption has become normal. Don't be afraid to simply add a quart to see if that gets the light to shut off. Let us know how the test turns out and what the problem is if any.

oldgixxer

I have 2200mi on my 63,I had the oil&filter changed@1700miles.I havent had any similiar issues

mogz

I got that warning every 1.5k miles or so...

Ben

Same here. I added some oil a few thousand miles back. Now, the "check oil level" pops up every couple of days. I'll have to re-check the level and add oil if necessary.

Keep us posted on your outcome.

RJC

Could it be a batch of bad sensors (had this issue with my 500 coupe) or have you guys been manually checking?

Bluemax

I had the same problem and my 63 would say it's time for service " a " . After my first oil change i told the dealer and they reset the maintance center within the car. I don't know if it's true but haven't seen a warning in almost 5k miles.


Robert

7 speed SMG

hmm... i think the car consumes a lot of oil... like the M5, but not that much. My car consumed 1/4 every 1000miles... until the 10000miles mark... now its more like 1/4 every 3000 miles. the more miles you put on it the less oil it consumes.

JP465NY

Dealer stated that the higher oild consumption is due to the break-in period and should slow in the future. I will keep an eye on it and expect to see the warning return when I have about 4200 miles.

dmc90025

In my case the flashing oil can stays on even after checking and determining the oil level is good. Must be a faulty sensor. Love the spiriling dip stick. What a piece of work that is when in a hurry!

JP465NY

Well it happened again at 4200 miles. If it continues past 6500 miles they will run an oil consumption test.

WayneE

Joe, that consumption seems really high. Break in bull**** excuse or not, 1 qt/1500-2000 miles is really high. What's the oil change interval on the 6.2L motor? 10k miles? If that's the case, you will have added 4-5 quarts between changes.

Keep in mind, the oil has to go somewhere. If it's making it's way into the combustion chamber, you're increasing your chance for detonation, which will kill power.

Are other 6.2L owners experiencing the same problem?

Good luck.

BenzoManNY

I just hit 1200 miles and will do an oil change at 1500 at my cost at an independent shop.

My previoushad the same BS issues with break in, etc and the 10k oil interval. Well let me say 1 quart every 1000- is not normal to me.

My prior vehicle the dealer did the oil change at 7800 miles as i forced them because i was under the 10k mark. I was about 12k miles and my car was loosing oil, about 1.5-2 quart per month. One day coming back from MA i was doing 120mph i downshifted and heard a pop, well the engine blew.

After the engine was taken apart the oil pan was low 6 quarts of oil, this was after i didnt check it for 2 months because i was busy. They claim bad oil pump i claim bad engine piston rings or something else. 2 connecting rods snapped, oil pan filled with metal shaving and debris.

I have not beat on my E63 yet because i want to avoid going through such a long warranty claim ever again.

Vadim @ FD

Actually, the harder you beat on it, the quicker the rings will seat. All of the good running running 63s that I have seen drove their cars hard right from the start.

WayneE

Based on my experience, I think that's true. You want to lean on new cars, not abuse them, right from the start.

But as far as seating the rings, the rings on these cars are done mating to the cylinder surfaces pretty early in life. If you're burning oil at a rate of 1qt/1k miles and you have > 1k miles on the car already, you have other issues - ring tension, poor cylinder surfacing, PCV or the **** is just pouring out somewhere on to the ground

With emissions and warranty issues, manufacturers aren't building loose motors that everyone talks about when discussing break in and how much faster their cars are with break in miles. If the cars really needed significant break in, you can bet the manufacturer would have specific break in instructions and program the ECU so you had to adhere to it. Let's pretend you're burning oil because you're seating the rings - that oil has to go somewhere - right into your combustion chamber (bad), then out the exhaust (worse, depending on who you are ). There is not a chance in <choose your religion's bad place> manufacturers would get that past the EPA sniffers when certifying new cars.

GM had issues with oil burning on their LSx motors and the problem was the ring pack. They tore down the engines, replaced the rings and it fixed the oil burning. They claimed it was a low tension ring that fluttered at light load/high rpm, which caused the oil consumption.

As I said before, good luck tracking down the problem. Please keep us posted.

sack5000

I was down about one quart at 3,600 miles but the light didn't come on, I just checked it. Since the car is a lease I don't plan to get it changed until 12K. Really high mileage for the first oil change.

JP465NY

The oil warning cam on again at 6000 miles. It needed 1/2 qt. The interval increased to over 1700 miles this time. I expect this to happen again at 7500 miles. At that time MB will run an oil consumption test. A service consultant told me that if they cannot find the problem in the case of AMG engines, it will be replaced with a NEW engine.

Ben

How much oil have you had to add up to 6000 miles? just 1/2 quart?

I've had to add 1/3 quart, twice since I reached 9000 miles.

Thanks. Keep us updated on your situation.

ucibenz

im at 5k miles and ive had this problem since approx 2200 miles. every other day i get the oil level is low signal... i manually checked the oil/ even went to a shop to get this checked out and every time the oil level was normal. last week i took it to the dealer and this is what they told me: "have you been driving on a hill because sometimes that causes the low oil sensor to go off." that was a lame response because i would obviously know that and i told them the light comes on when im driving on a flat surface, but they said theres nothing wrong with it after the oil test... i guess its just a problem with the sensor which is annoying because if the oil was really low, i wouldnt even know.

buckeyewalt

I have about 6000 miles on my "63", and maybe I have used 1/4 qt of oil, and that was in the begining, now, no oil consumption. There is a recall for a wrong oil dip stick on some E63's, but that wouldn't cause oil consumption. Whatever it is, to have much oil consumption is unacceptable, especially on these cars.

ucibenz

hey buckeye how did you you find out about the wrong oil dip stick? i was almost positive that my car had the wrong dip stick because it wouldn't go back in!!! and when i took it to the dealer they told me i dont know what im talking about..... how do i get the dip stick replaced?

any one else have the brakes checked for squeeking???

Ben

Bring your car into the dealer. There is a fix for the rear brakes by replacing the pads.

Also there's a new dipstick. The original one had a black handle, the updated one has a red handle.

Both of these are DTBs, so the dealer can just look them up and fix your car.

John V.

On my CLK63 the warning just came on yesterday for the second time. bought the car with 2400km. 1st warning was at 4500km and now at 6300km. Seems like a bit of a pattern with these engines. I don't think its anything to worry about. My 01 porsche TT that I had a few years ago went threw a liter every 2000km. Little lube on the rings don't hurt. If I saw a big cloud of blue smoke out the back that would be a different story.

buckeyewalt

I hope I did this right...........there is a STAR memo on this:

Date:
July 26, 2007
Order No.:
P-B-18.00/35a
Supersedes:
P-B-18.00/35 dated June 26, 2007
Group:
18
Revision History
Revision
Date
Purpose
a
7/26/07
Step 2 Dipstick Clarification Updated
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6/26/07
Initial issue
SUBJECT:
Model 209.477
Model 211.077/277
Model 219.377
Equipped with Engine M156
Oil Level Warning Message in Instrument Cluster / Oil Level on Dipstick is OK
If you receive customer reports in the above model vehicles of one of the below oil level messages in the instrument cluster; however when the oil level is checked on the dipstick the level is OK, the cause may be the coding of the engine model designation and oil data set in the ASSYST control unit is incorrect and/or the dipstick is incorrect.
• Add 1 liter engine oil at next refueling stop
• Check oil at next refueling stop
To resolve, perform the following steps.
1. Check the coding of the engine model designation and oil data set of the ASSYST control unit by accessing DAS �� Control units �� Information and communication �� ASSYST �� Control unit adaptations �� Engine type �� Engine type M156 E63 Version for rest of world Status: 3 has been recognized �� Information and communication �� ASSYST PLUS �� Control unit adaptations �� Control module reset
2. Check installed oil dipstick and replace if necessary. The correct oil dipstick is identifiable by the red handle and by the code 156 12 or 156 14 on the handle.
3. Check oil level and correct if necessary.
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MBUSA-SLP S424HH001, Control of Quality Records.
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Parts Information
Qty.
Part Name
Part Number
1
Oil dipstick (red handle)
A156 010 14 72
Note: The following allowable labor operations should be used when submitting a warranty claim for this repair. This information has been generated on July 26, 2007. Please refer to Netstar �� Star TekInfo �� Star Time for the most current labor time allowance.
In Case of Warranty
Operation: Short test, perform (54-1011)
Control unit - ….. code (after short test), perform (54-0992)
Engine oil level, correct (00-6000)
Oil dipstick, replace (01-0000)
Damage Code
Operation Number
Time (hrs.)
Model Indicator (s)
54740 90
54 1011
0.3 hrs.
S9, TB, U8, Y4
If necessary:
54 0992
0.1 hrs.
S9, TB, U8, Y4
00 6000
0.1 hrs.
S9, TB, U8, Y4
If necessary:
01 0000
0.1 hrs.
S9, TB, U8, Y4
P-B-18.00/35a (July 26, 2007)
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