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Old 07-26-2007, 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Thericker
Are you kidding? where'd you get the idea I was insinuating the C6 is SECONDS faster than the slk55? Where did I post that????? I merely repeated my experience racing STOCK vs STOCK....
And NO you're wrong Juicee heavily implies the perf of the 63 is better on the streets than the Z06, quoting the Stunt drivers w/30 yrs driving experience who said it felt faster, & beat the C6 Z06.

Enough? Ahh did you miss Juicees crusade about beating a Z06 @ LACR????

My car is not faster than an E55 or an E63 or a Z06. This thread was about my show featuring both cars in a manner that I felt was of interest to members here. The guys driving the cars happen to really like the Merc, why is that so hard to believe? The driver of the Corvette said it shifted like a "forklift". Just opinion and no offense intended for Corvette owners. I am sure with proper traction and shifting the 63 would be destroyed.
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Originally Posted by SLK55R
Enough ... I don't think juice thinks that the CLS63 is faster than a ZO6 C6. For christ's sakes it was those stunt drivers that said they "felt" like it was faster.
Ahh I think Juicee really believes the opposite

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Sorry but my experience racing the Z06 is vastly different. On the street the 63 is much easier to control and drive at WOT.

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The drivers have 30 plus years of stunt driving , have done most of the stunts in the cars you have seen in many TV show and movies and simply stated on the street going block to block the 63 felt "faster" .

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I watched it happen , millions of others will watch it happen on ABC in Sept. The Vette was beaten , I am certain the drivers are capable. Sorry Bro but you should not assume a 63 could never beat a Z06 or a 55 or any other car.
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Simply highly respected members of an elite group giving props to the E63.

The E63's CLS63's on the West Coast have horrible times & traps, high 12's @ 108-111 any properly driven C6 Z06 would absolutely rape any 63! and for Juicee to actually say these drivers are capable is plain hilarious.
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Originally Posted by juicee63
My car is not faster than an E55 or an E63 or a Z06. This thread was about my show featuring both cars in a manner that I felt was of interest to members here. The guys driving the cars happen to really like the Merc, why is that so hard to believe? The driver of the Corvette said it shifted like a "forklift". Just opinion and no offense intended for Corvette owners. I am sure with proper traction and shifting the 63 would be destroyed.
Had you said something similar to this in your OP I would've never replied, instead you defended it regurgitating your famed LACR victory

I have driven a C6 Z06, & have 3 good friends who own them, they shift very easily, it's the traction and TM involvement that sux! It speaks volumes w/your now reporting how the stunt driver said the Z06 shifted like a fork liftwhat an ***, obviously couldn't row the gears to save his life...
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Originally Posted by mosesgolf
Juice,

You're getting a lot of neg. response and flags because in reality, it's just not true. I can't recall any posts that said a Z06 was pulled in any race but it's quite frequent to hear a 63, 55 or an M5 for that matter get pulled with regularity. Perhaps a better description of those drivers are that they're "stunt drivers" not professional drivers. I recall a youtube video recently where a heavily modded 55 got walked/spanked by a Z06 (easily). And just because you had some success with a Z06 you raced doesn't mean anything. Go to dragtimes.com and see quarter mile times for the 63 and compare it to that of bone stock Z06's.
Why is my success vs. the Vette "meaningless" It certainly makes me wonder.

I have 80% of the times on drag times, lol I know what the 63 does on the drag strip. I have seen some Incredible Vette times but it seems like they run poorly more often than not
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Originally Posted by juicee63
My car is not faster than an E55
I know your cls63 is not faster, remember the race posted in this section from Zlicious?? raced and pretty much destroyed an E55k Ren 5 w/over 100rwhp & rwto than your bucket, that Renn 5 would run CIRCLES around you..

Forget about the Z06 guy your posts on this subject are
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Originally Posted by juicee63
... I have seen some Incredible Vette times but it seems like they run poorly more often than not
Driver error (skills) - let's face it the Z06 will crush the 63 unless the driver screws up.
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Originally Posted by Thericker
Ahh I think Juicee really believes the opposite












The E63's CLS63's on the West Coast have horrible times & traps, high 12's @ 108-111 any properly driven C6 Z06 would absolutely rape any 63! and for Juicee to actually say these drivers are capable is plain hilarious.

Horrible? Your car would run similar times

You are right about one thing.
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Why is my success vs. the Vette "meaningless" It certainly makes me wonder.

I have 80% of the times on drag times, lol I know what the 63 does on the drag strip. I have seen some Incredible Vette times but it seems like they run poorly more often than not
Get it thru your head, there Manual tranny 6 speeds compared to a point and click automatic, much harder to master, still it does not make them a slower vehicle just most of the time poorly driven.
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Driver error (skills) - let's face it the Z06 will crush the 63 unless the driver screws up.
I agree

but in a short burst because traction is key the 63 does really well against rear wheel drive opposition. Hell I have been waxed by diesel powered trucks its all about grip
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Get it thru your head, there Manual tranny 6 speeds compared to a point and click automatic, much harder to master, still it does not make them a slower vehicle just most of the time poorly driven.
I agree with you too buddy, now calm the hell down and come down to Hollywood, I will even call you a drive on to the lot so you can talk to the drivers and perhaps help them with the Z06, LOL...You have my number I aint making this stuff up.
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Originally Posted by juicee63
Horrible? Your car would run similar times

You are right about one thing.
You're such a hypocrite! I'm going off of what you said about the Super Stunt Drivers w/30yrs experience and how YOU WERE CERTAIN THE DRIVERS WERE CAPABLE!

I'm done w/this crap anytime you want to race bro??
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then we hit the surface streets 0-60ish I had to hit the brakes for fear of running over him w/my jacuzzi...
Thats where you are implying that your car is much faster than a SLK55.

Btw I can easily see a 63 beating a zo6 from a dig on a short run. The zo6 is a biatch to launch ... just like my car. I think what juice is saying is that the chance of driver error is large for a zo6 because of the enormous tq/hp and if that happens a 63 can beat it.

Why is this hard to understand? I believe that juice can beat my car if I get a horrible launch ... but is his car faster than mine? NO.

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Originally Posted by juicee63
I agree with you too buddy, now calm the hell down and come down to Hollywood, I will even call you a drive on to the lot so you can talk to the drivers and perhaps help them with the Z06, LOL...You have my number I aint making this stuff up.
Funny guy! No amount of talking would help your stunt driver who thinks the C6 Z06 shifts like a fork lift!
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Originally Posted by SLK55R
Thats where you are implying that your car is much faster than a SLK55.
Just telling it like it was, the Vette has reported 0-60 of 4.2 w/3.15 gears, I think that's a few lengths faster to 60 than a stock slk55 NOT SECONDS! If it was seconds I would've said "Hey I pulled 10+ lengths on him"
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Originally Posted by juicee63
Horrible? Your car would run similar times

Not w/my new HP full tune
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Come on now ricker ... the fact that we are talking just 0-60 and that you had to slam on your brakes to not rear end the SLK ... its saying something.

THe reality is the cars are close.

Now give Juice a break!
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Originally Posted by SLK55R
Thats where you are implying that your car is much faster than a SLK55.

Btw I can easily see a 63 beating a zo6 from a dig on a short run. The zo6 is a biatch to launch ... just like my car. I think what juice is saying is that the chance of driver error is large for a zo6 because of the enormous tq/hp and if that happens a 63 can beat it.

Why is this hard to understand? I believe that juice can beat my car if I get a horrible launch ... but is his car faster than mine? NO.
Yes you have summed up my position on this. Your car when launched correctly will beat my car no matter how well I drive.

Many here including myself may use the wrong words when describing potential outcomes.

The stunt drivers are certainly experienced but it takes some seat time in any car to drive to full potential. The 63 was likely just easier to drive from light to light.
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Originally Posted by juicee63
Horrible? Your car would run similar times

You are right about one thing.
And we were talking about the C6 Z06 not my bucket!
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Originally Posted by SLK55R
Come on now ricker ... the fact that we are talking just 0-60 and that you had to slam on your brakes to not rear end the SLK ... its saying something.

THe reality is the cars are close.

Now give Juice a break!
Actually on the freeway we were close as I walked him, but when we hit the surface streets it was quite different...
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Come on now ricker ... the fact that we are talking just 0-60 and that you had to slam on your brakes to not rear end the SLK ... its saying something.
You need to read more closely I never said "I had to SLAM on my brakes!"

This is what I originally said, please don't mis-quote me...

I walked him on fwy & then we hit the surface streets 0-60ish I had to hit the brakes for fear of running over him w/my jacuzzi...
I was literally inches from his bumper, I was trying to add a bit of levity if you noticed I reffered to my Vette as a jacuzzi, obviously I wouldn't have ran him over but if I didn't hit the brakes I deff would've been paying for a new bumper++

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I am sure with proper traction and shifting the 63 would be destroyed.
Forget about the traction, it has to do with proper driving. It's not as hard as people claim, just requires some control of your right foot.
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Whats up buddy, It seems that we keep repeating the same thing over and over but seriously the Z06 is faster than any stock 55/63... HOWEVER , If the driver of the Z06 doesn't know how to harness its power then he'll get merc-ed Everytime. Sadly enough and Im not bieng sarcastic but I have yet to see a Z06 owner capable of taming it. Most of the owners I've talk to couldn't give me a reason why they had trouble with the car, But I think you need to be regular vette driver to understand the nature of its power and delivery.
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Whats up buddy, It seems that we keep repeating the same thing over and over but seriously the Z06 is faster than any stock 55/63... HOWEVER , If the driver of the Z06 doesn't know how to harness its power then he'll get merc-ed Everytime. Sadly enough and Im not bieng sarcastic but I have yet to see a Z06 owner capable of taming it. Most of the owners I've talk to couldn't give me a reason why they had trouble with the car, But I think you need to be regular vette driver to understand the nature of its power and delivery.
I guess you didn't read my posts? I've said this all along and agree w/you, the only reason I got involved was Juicee acts/thinks no matter who's behind the wheel on the "STREETS or in HIS experience at the drags, the Z06 is inferior"

Juice said "He was CERTAIN both drivers were CAPABLE, and they had 30 years experience blah blah...." But then started back peddling saying well if properly driven the Z would take 'em



this entire thread is complete

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AGREED, ADMIN. PLEASE CLOSE THIS THREAD.
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this entire thread is complete
And I bet you would claim to have nothing to with it turning into bs.


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