E63 impressive vs. 2007 Z06
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I don't wish to fight/argue w/you Juice but your statements contradict themselves..
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Venom, the 4300lbs number makes more sense all though it's the heaviest I've seen. When we were talking weight, you don't include the driver because the cancel each other out. The delta between the Vette and the E55/63 isn't 1600lbs, that was my point.
You should try to come down on Oct 8th to MIR. We have the track all day and we already have a couple of guys from up north coming down. Check out that thread and bring the 63 down. I think so far we only have one 63 signed up.
You should try to come down on Oct 8th to MIR. We have the track all day and we already have a couple of guys from up north coming down. Check out that thread and bring the 63 down. I think so far we only have one 63 signed up.
2. I usually don't include the driver as weight also, I was just trying to confirm that the E63 makes the suggested power ratings. To move a mass of 4,600lbs down the 1,320
with the numbers I am running, you have to be putting out serious power. Personally I believe the 63 does hit the 507hp mark.
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Venom, I assume that this is with less than a 1/2 tank of fuel, correct?
My car usually weighs in anywhere from 4,320 to 4,350 lbs on the scale, with me in it. That 250 lbs of extra weight that you are carrying is costing you, comparatively, 2/10ths.
I am going to try to make it down next Friday (8/3). Maybe this time, I will be able to get out of the office on time.![Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif)
My car usually weighs in anywhere from 4,320 to 4,350 lbs on the scale, with me in it. That 250 lbs of extra weight that you are carrying is costing you, comparatively, 2/10ths.
I am going to try to make it down next Friday (8/3). Maybe this time, I will be able to get out of the office on time.
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The Corvette would kill me, destroy me, evreytime.
Thats real bro, but you better know how to drive or your done son
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Its amazing how some of you euro car lovers talk **** about an American car when its kicking your ****ing asses left and right. Stock and for the money you cant touch the ZO6. Modified? Keep dreaming. Go race a Honda.
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You are a braggart look @ your old posts above & again below
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We've gone over this so many times man?? these words above are NOT what you 1st posted?? You went on & on how these drivers were probably some of the BEST IN THE WORLD? You contradict yourself so much it's not even funny anymore...
You are a braggart look @ your old posts above & again below
this is so old peace out!
You are a braggart look @ your old posts above & again below
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I stand by the fact the stunt drivers have experience and can drive any car.
They are the BEST IN THE WORLD at what they do.
They were impressed with the 63 as a daily, more than the Z06.
They understand the Z06 is faster than the 63.
The 63 performed well , better than the other cars performing stunts etc.
I was simply sharing what others on my show said about the 63
Its a great car no matter how much you attempt to derail its abilities
You turned the thread as you do most into a teen battle of ego
I respect you and your C6, it is too bad you fail to reciprocate
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Like most members here you focused on the negative and confrontational, rather than the 99 other positive comments on the Z06 that are contained in this thread. Corvette is fast but as a daily driver the Benz is a better choice IMO
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Most the comments on MBWORLD are positive on the Corvette.
Like most members here you focused on the negative and confrontational, rather than the 99 other positive comments on the Z06 that are contained in this thread. Corvette is fast but as a daily driver the Benz is a better choice IMO
Like most members here you focused on the negative and confrontational, rather than the 99 other positive comments on the Z06 that are contained in this thread. Corvette is fast but as a daily driver the Benz is a better choice IMO
I prefer all around performance, not one dimensional, straight line performance. Again, my opinion.
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If you read my post alittle better, you'd see that I said SOME, not all. Every real performance oriented guy on any car forum will realize the ZO6 is the best all around performing car for the money in the world. Thats a given. As far as the benz being a better daily driver then the ZO6, I respectfully disagree, but again, like you, thats my opinion.
I prefer all around performance, not one dimensional, straight line performance. Again, my opinion.
I prefer all around performance, not one dimensional, straight line performance. Again, my opinion.
I would buy one for racing in a second, likely in my top two and yes #1 for pricing. I may buy an 08 and I would choose yellow. We have different needs for a daily, I sit in traffic alot and the Benz is very comfy. The two motors are amazing and the Z06 simply needs to hook and its bye bye. I guess I have been lucky to only race poorly driven ones
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If you read my post alittle better, you'd see that I said SOME, not all. Every real performance oriented guy on any car forum will realize the ZO6 is the best all around performing car for the money in the world. Thats a given. As far as the benz being a better daily driver then the ZO6, I respectfully disagree, but again, like you, thats my opinion.
I prefer all around performance, not one dimensional, straight line performance. Again, my opinion.
I prefer all around performance, not one dimensional, straight line performance. Again, my opinion.
The only real place to test a cars handling to its limits is at the track anyway, during a regular commute straight line speed is nicer to have. imho
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If you read my post alittle better, you'd see that I said SOME, not all. Every real performance oriented guy on any car forum will realize the ZO6 is the best all around performing car for the money in the world. Thats a given. As far as the benz being a better daily driver then the ZO6, I respectfully disagree, but again, like you, thats my opinion.
I prefer all around performance, not one dimensional, straight line performance. Again, my opinion.
I prefer all around performance, not one dimensional, straight line performance. Again, my opinion.
Save the ego for the little girls buddy, The benzo is way more all around performance than the vette thats why most of u Z06 owners can't even drive it and end up getting smoked by a heavier, slower, more luxirious smarter car. Would you like me to post a few vids of a 63 driven by an in-experienced driver smoking more than one 06'-07' Z06's?
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Save the ego for the little girls buddy, The benzo is way more all around performance than the vette thats why most of u Z06 owners can't even drive it and end up getting smoked by a heavier, slower, more luxirious smarter car. Would you like me to post a few vids of a 63 driven by an in-experienced driver smoking more than one 06'-07' Z06's?
Save the ego for the little girls buddy, The benzo is way more all around performance than the vette thats why most of u Z06 owners can't even drive it and end up getting smoked by a heavier, slower, more luxirious smarter car. Would you like me to post a few vids of a 63 driven by an in-experienced driver smoking more than one 06'-07' Z06's?
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You have it twisted,
I stand by the fact the stunt drivers have experience and can drive any car.
They are the BEST IN THE WORLD at what they do.
They were impressed with the 63 as a daily, more than the Z06.
They understand the Z06 is faster than the 63.
The 63 performed well , better than the other cars performing stunts etc.
I was simply sharing what others on my show said about the 63
Its a great car no matter how much you attempt to derail its abilities
You turned the thread as you do most into a teen battle of ego
I respect you and your C6, it is too bad you fail to reciprocate
I stand by the fact the stunt drivers have experience and can drive any car.
They are the BEST IN THE WORLD at what they do.
They were impressed with the 63 as a daily, more than the Z06.
They understand the Z06 is faster than the 63.
The 63 performed well , better than the other cars performing stunts etc.
I was simply sharing what others on my show said about the 63
Its a great car no matter how much you attempt to derail its abilities
You turned the thread as you do most into a teen battle of ego
I respect you and your C6, it is too bad you fail to reciprocate
Hell if that was the content of most of your previous posts, I'd wholeheartedly agree!! the Vette though light years AHEAD inmyop of earlier Vettes, is still light years BEHIND a beautiful 4 door Luxury car w/500hp for DAILY DRIVING, that's not what you said/implied/posted earlier...
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i think its really funny that american car owners even have words to put against the european cars..........first of the corvette might b fast but its also build out of cardboard if u crash u dead for sure..........and that its drives like a 1980 FIAT uno.......lol..........all americans knowis a big engine and four wheels so they can burn more and more gas.....and you are probably the first american that i see to talk **** about European cars.........to a reality check buddy
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i think its really funny that american car owners even have words to put against the european cars..........first of the corvette might b fast but its also build out of cardboard if u crash u dead for sure..........and that its drives like a 1980 FIAT uno.......lol..........all americans knowis a big engine and four wheels so they can burn more and more gas.....and you are probably the first american that i see to talk **** about European cars.........to a reality check buddy
The Corvette actually gets incredible MPG. Its rated #1 in fuel economy in its class.
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Save the ego for the little girls buddy, The benzo is way more all around performance than the vette thats why most of u Z06 owners can't even drive it and end up getting smoked by a heavier, slower, more luxirious smarter car. Would you like me to post a few vids of a 63 driven by an in-experienced driver smoking more than one 06'-07' Z06's?
Save the ego for the little girls buddy, The benzo is way more all around performance than the vette thats why most of u Z06 owners can't even drive it and end up getting smoked by a heavier, slower, more luxirious smarter car. Would you like me to post a few vids of a 63 driven by an in-experienced driver smoking more than one 06'-07' Z06's?
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I was just gonna get to that. I had a C6 coupe before my ZO6 and it used to do 30 mpg on the highway in 6th gear at 70mph. My ZO6 consistently does 27-28 mpg on the highway in 6th at 75mph. We're not the ones paying a $3,000 gas guzzler tax. (Juicee63, this is not directed toward you, its the loser you're responding to).
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i think its really funny that american car owners even have words to put against the european cars..........first of the corvette might b fast but its also build out of cardboard if u crash u dead for sure..........and that its drives like a 1980 FIAT uno.......lol..........all americans knowis a big engine and four wheels so they can burn more and more gas.....and you are probably the first american that i see to talk **** about European cars.........to a reality check buddy
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Jeez you are such a spin DR. you should be in politics! Now you've watered down your earlier statements to the 63 is a better daily driver???
Hell if that was the content of most of your previous posts, I'd wholeheartedly agree!! the Vette though light years AHEAD inmyop of earlier Vettes, is still light years BEHIND a beautiful 4 door Luxury car w/500hp for DAILY DRIVING, that's not what you said/implied/posted earlier...![Confused](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/confused.gif)
Hell if that was the content of most of your previous posts, I'd wholeheartedly agree!! the Vette though light years AHEAD inmyop of earlier Vettes, is still light years BEHIND a beautiful 4 door Luxury car w/500hp for DAILY DRIVING, that's not what you said/implied/posted earlier...
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The title of this thread
"E63 Impressive vs.Z06"
The content of the 1st post
relays the opinions of drivers of the E63
It also oulines the parameter in which the cars were run and opinion formed
"block to block"
Why this turned into me vs the Z, is simply your ego and senseless attack of a flippin "story" an opinion. Now here we go again, what was the name of the ABC TV show that will feature Mercedes Benz in the FAll schedule?
Nobody knows cause you turned this thread into HS dramatics.
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hehe, this thread is entertaining..![Big Grin](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
Juice, the Z06 is much, much, much faster than a 63. I can understand your excitement regarding these stunt drivers telling you that the 63 feels faster, and that is ok and great to hear, but just be aware that the Z06 and the 63 are not in the same league when it comes to performance. Sure, if the driver of the Z06 is not competent and you race one from light to light you could win, but that can be said about nearly any two cars if one driver is competent and the other is not.
Both great cars, both cars should be enjoyed for thier intentions. The 63's intention was not to compete with the Z06 when it comes to performance, and the Z06 was not meant to compete with the 63 when it comes to daily drive ability and comfort.
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Juice, the Z06 is much, much, much faster than a 63. I can understand your excitement regarding these stunt drivers telling you that the 63 feels faster, and that is ok and great to hear, but just be aware that the Z06 and the 63 are not in the same league when it comes to performance. Sure, if the driver of the Z06 is not competent and you race one from light to light you could win, but that can be said about nearly any two cars if one driver is competent and the other is not.
Both great cars, both cars should be enjoyed for thier intentions. The 63's intention was not to compete with the Z06 when it comes to performance, and the Z06 was not meant to compete with the 63 when it comes to daily drive ability and comfort.
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