W211 AMG Discuss the W211 AMG's such as the E55 and the E63

Installed Johnson CM30 pump

Old Aug 21, 2007 | 01:49 PM
  #26  
Vadim @ FD's Avatar
Banned
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 2,855
Likes: 2
From: Southern California
S600TT, R350
It is as quiet as stock.

Last edited by Vadim @ FD; Aug 21, 2007 at 01:56 PM.
Reply
Old Aug 21, 2007 | 04:58 PM
  #27  
StevesAMG's Avatar
Thread Starter
Almost a Member!
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 55
Likes: 0
From: Redondo beach, CA
03' E55, 06' Kawasaki ZX-10R
Originally Posted by Shaun
Just bought the last one. One question for the guys that installed it. Is it louder that the stock one?
I didn't even know they made noise lol
Reply
Old Aug 21, 2007 | 06:39 PM
  #28  
tigerlam92's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 233
Likes: 0
From: Bay Area, CA
E55
Originally Posted by StevesAMG
I didn't even know they made noise lol
Some water pump will make so much noise that it may drive some people crazy, like the one that Vortech put in their kit. I had no problem with the noise since my car was pretty loud already.

Can someone confirm that the pump on Ebay is really a CM30 (as advertise) and not the weaker built CO30 which has the problem of premature leaking. I also bought one, hahaha. I have a brand new CO90 if anyone wants to buy it now.
Reply
Old Aug 21, 2007 | 07:33 PM
  #29  
StevesAMG's Avatar
Thread Starter
Almost a Member!
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 55
Likes: 0
From: Redondo beach, CA
03' E55, 06' Kawasaki ZX-10R
Originally Posted by tigerlam92
Some water pump will make so much noise that it may drive some people crazy, like the one that Vortech put in their kit. I had no problem with the noise since my car was pretty loud already.

Can someone confirm that the pump on Ebay is really a CM30 (as advertise) and not the weaker built CO30 which has the problem of premature leaking. I also bought one, hahaha. I have a brand new CO90 if anyone wants to buy it now.

I bought it, installed it and it is indeed the CM30.
Reply
Old Aug 21, 2007 | 08:32 PM
  #30  
tigerlam92's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 233
Likes: 0
From: Bay Area, CA
E55
Originally Posted by StevesAMG
I bought it, installed it and it is indeed the CM30.
thanks
Reply
Old Aug 22, 2007 | 07:58 PM
  #31  
TopGun32's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 3,466
Likes: 10
From: Southern Cali (Ontario)
it looks like I missed out on the Ebay purchase.

Any body has another place were we can buy them for around $80?

I e-mailed the Ebay seller to see if he has access to more pumps.

Summer is almost over.. but my car is finally working properly.

New SC clutch (newer design)
New trans
New torque converter

the transmission is still a bit sluggish at times.. but overall its much more precise than before.

Now I just need to keep my ITA temps down with these ASP pullies.
Reply
Old Aug 23, 2007 | 11:22 AM
  #32  
speedpeddler's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 463
Likes: 8
From: South Florida
2014 E63, Cobra replica, 68 Camaro, 66 Chevy II SS, Z4 BMW, Honda Element, Birel 125cc Shifter Kart.
Why does no one mount a seperate fluid resevoir in the car and seperate the two cooling systems? It's got to produce much lower IT's and ET's

I work with some turbo Drag racers and they ALL mount seperate fluid resevoirs in the car to cool the intake air. They fill them with ice and water before each run and intake temps are usually in the 40 degree range even after a 7 second pass at over 200 mph in 95 degree weather. In fact, IT is one of the most critical components of a good run besides traction.

I'm sure I'm not the first to contemplate this mod, so why does no one do it?
Reply
Old Aug 23, 2007 | 11:50 AM
  #33  
pshek's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 1,194
Likes: 2
From: Diamond Bar & Anaheim, CA
2003 C-Class Sportcoupe
Johnson CM30 and CM90 have magnetically driven impellers. CO30 and C090 do not. Instead, they have a mechanical seal that needs to be replaced often. On the CM pumps you don't have to worry about seal going bad. There's instructions on how to replace the seal on on the CO90 pumps on their website.
Reply
MB World Stories

The Best of Mercedes & AMG

story-0

New Electric Mercedes-AMG GT 4-Door Coupe Unveiled: 10 Things You Need to Know

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

6 Mercedes Models That Did NOT Age Well (But Are Somehow Still Cool)

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

Manual Mercedes? 6 Times Sindelfingen Let Drivers Have All The Fun

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Mercedes SLR McLaren 722 S Is Extremely Rare Example Modified by McLaren

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

8 Classic Boxy Mercedes Designs That Have Aged Like Fine Wine

 Verdad Gallardo
story-5

Flawlessly Restored Mercedes 190E Evo II Heads to Auction

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Electric Mercedes C-Class Unveiled: 11 Things You Need to Know

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Mercedes EQS Gets A Major Update: Everything You Need to Know

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

5 Underrated Mercedes-Benz Models That Don't Get the Love They Deserve

 Verdad Gallardo
story-9

Mercedes 300D Has Pushed Well Past 1 Million Miles and It Ain't Stopping

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Aug 23, 2007 | 02:19 PM
  #34  
chiromikey's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 6,649
Likes: 207
'03 E55, Range Rover Sport Supercharged, Ducati 748R
Originally Posted by speedpeddler
Why does no one mount a seperate fluid resevoir in the car and seperate the two cooling systems? It's got to produce much lower IT's and ET's

I work with some turbo Drag racers and they ALL mount seperate fluid resevoirs in the car to cool the intake air. They fill them with ice and water before each run and intake temps are usually in the 40 degree range even after a 7 second pass at over 200 mph in 95 degree weather. In fact, IT is one of the most critical components of a good run besides traction.

I'm sure I'm not the first to contemplate this mod, so why does no one do it?
what...you mean like this? btw, i'm not the only one who's done this with their 55.

unfortunately, we'll NEVER be able to cool iat's as efficientley as custom air-to-air i/c's do but we should at least be able to get much closer to ambient.

Reply
Old Aug 23, 2007 | 06:34 PM
  #35  
Jrocket's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 3,042
Likes: 0
From: So.Ca.
E55
Originally Posted by speedpeddler
Why does no one mount a seperate fluid resevoir in the car and seperate the two cooling systems? It's got to produce much lower IT's and ET's

I work with some turbo Drag racers and they ALL mount seperate fluid resevoirs in the car to cool the intake air. They fill them with ice and water before each run and intake temps are usually in the 40 degree range even after a 7 second pass at over 200 mph in 95 degree weather. In fact, IT is one of the most critical components of a good run besides traction.

I'm sure I'm not the first to contemplate this mod, so why does no one do it?
Space! Not enough of it under the hood.Some have done it but mounted the unit in the trunk,now you have alot of hose for that cold water to travel through.
Reply
Old Aug 24, 2007 | 11:41 AM
  #36  
speedpeddler's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 463
Likes: 8
From: South Florida
2014 E63, Cobra replica, 68 Camaro, 66 Chevy II SS, Z4 BMW, Honda Element, Birel 125cc Shifter Kart.
Originally Posted by chiromikey
what...you mean like this? btw, i'm not the only one who's done this with their 55.

unfortunately, we'll NEVER be able to cool iat's as efficientley as custom air-to-air i/c's do but we should at least be able to get much closer to ambient.

NOW THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT! Very nice looking installation. How much of a performance gain did you see over the stock system. I'm betting it was signifigant?
Reply
Old Aug 24, 2007 | 01:10 PM
  #37  
chiromikey's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 6,649
Likes: 207
'03 E55, Range Rover Sport Supercharged, Ducati 748R
Originally Posted by speedpeddler
NOW THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT! Very nice looking installation. How much of a performance gain did you see over the stock system. I'm betting it was signifigant?
i've only had it finished for a few weeks so i haven't had a chance to hit the track yet but i'll make sure to post the results of that and my datalogging when i do.

iirc, rflow has shown a significant decrease in iat's from his.
Reply
Old Aug 24, 2007 | 08:34 PM
  #38  
Jrocket's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 3,042
Likes: 0
From: So.Ca.
E55
I was told there is 2 different models of the Cm30? 3/4 and 5/8's,is this correct?

Chiromikey...what ones did you get from Bill?
Reply
Old Aug 24, 2007 | 10:08 PM
  #39  
chiromikey's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 6,649
Likes: 207
'03 E55, Range Rover Sport Supercharged, Ducati 748R
Originally Posted by Jrocket
I was told there is 2 different models of the Cm30? 3/4 and 5/8's,is this correct?

Chiromikey...what ones did you get from Bill?
3/4".

not that there's much difference but the oem is 5/8". i've not seen a 5/8" offered for the cm30 (but that doesn't mean much ).
Reply
Old Aug 25, 2007 | 12:35 PM
  #40  
tigerlam92's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 233
Likes: 0
From: Bay Area, CA
E55
Originally Posted by chiromikey
what...you mean like this? btw, i'm not the only one who's done this with their 55.

unfortunately, we'll NEVER be able to cool iat's as efficientley as custom air-to-air i/c's do but we should at least be able to get much closer to ambient.

From my experience and what I have seen, the water to air IC is more efficient on the track than the air to air just because you can dump ice in after everyone run.

However, you are right for the daily use off the track then the air to air will be more efficient than water to air because it will not be practical to use ice for the water to air application.
Reply
Old Aug 26, 2007 | 05:24 AM
  #41  
Zod's Avatar
Zod
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 2,597
Likes: 19
From: Kuwait
CLS55 2006, CLS 63S 2015
and what would an air to air IC be?
Reply

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:
You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 0 votes,  average.


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:16 AM.

story-0
New Electric Mercedes-AMG GT 4-Door Coupe Unveiled: 10 Things You Need to Know

Slideshow: Mercedes-AMG's new electric GT 4-Door Coupe trades combustion for software, synthetic noise, and more than 1,100 horsepower.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-20 20:08:15


VIEW MORE
story-1
6 Mercedes Models That Did NOT Age Well (But Are Somehow Still Cool)

Slideshow: Not every Mercedes design becomes timeless, some feel stuck in the era they came from.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:09:07


VIEW MORE
story-2
Manual Mercedes? 6 Times Sindelfingen Let Drivers Have All The Fun

Slideshow: Yes, Mercedes built manual cars, and some of them are far more interesting than you'd expect.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-02 12:36:58


VIEW MORE
story-3
Mercedes SLR McLaren 722 S Is Extremely Rare Example Modified by McLaren

Slideshow: A one-of-one U.S.-spec Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren Roadster became even rarer after a factory-backed transformation at McLaren's headquarters.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-29 11:19:28


VIEW MORE
story-4
8 Classic Boxy Mercedes Designs That Have Aged Like Fine Wine

Slideshow: Before curves took over, Mercedes mastered the art of the straight line, and some of those shapes still look right today.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-25 12:05:49


VIEW MORE
story-5
Flawlessly Restored Mercedes 190E Evo II Heads to Auction

Slideshow: The 190E Evolution II shows how a homologation necessity became a six-figure collector icon.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-22 17:53:47


VIEW MORE
story-6
Electric Mercedes C-Class Unveiled: 11 Things You Need to Know

Slideshow: Mercedes is turning one of its core nameplates electric, and the details show just how serious this shift is.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:58:06


VIEW MORE
story-7
Mercedes EQS Gets A Major Update: Everything You Need to Know

Slideshow: Faster charging, longer range, and a controversial steer-by-wire system define the latest evolution of Mercedes-Benz EQS.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-15 10:35:34


VIEW MORE
story-8
5 Underrated Mercedes-Benz Models That Don't Get the Love They Deserve

Slideshow: These overlooked Mercedes-Benz models never got the spotlight, but they quietly delivered more than most remember.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-13 19:35:45


VIEW MORE
story-9
Mercedes 300D Has Pushed Well Past 1 Million Miles and It Ain't Stopping

Slideshow: A well-used 1991 Mercedes-Benz 300D with more than one million miles is now looking for a new owner, and it still appears ready for more.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-10 10:05:15


VIEW MORE