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Old 10-29-2007, 09:36 AM
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335i with Procede V2 just beat the SL55 AMG by 5-10 car lengths!


http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92258
Hm, it lost to an M6 and 997TT both by 5 lengths but beat an SL55 by 5-10...strange, but I've seen much stranger results in street races.

Thanks for the link, very interesting. I can't wait for my brother to get a 335i...whether or not he wants to spend the money, I'm gonna mod it for him. Black with black rims, chrome lip. Vishnu ECU, catless exhaust...and possible turbo swap in the future
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Originally Posted by Jspeed
335i with Procede V2 just beat the SL55 AMG by 5-10 car lengths!


http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92258
I read this yesterday too..


I have no dispute about the kill.

but the best trap speed I have seen was done by a JBS2 piggy back, DP's, DRAG Radials, Race Gas and it trapped 112.

the rest of the V2 are trapping 110 and 109.

3rd and 4th gear on the bimmer is very good and it will beat many cars from a roll.

Like another guy at the E90 post.. talked about beating up a C6 base Corvette with his V2.
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Originally Posted by ItalianStallion
Hm, it lost to an M6 and 997TT both by 5 lengths but beat an SL55 by 5-10...strange, but I've seen much stranger results in street races.

Thanks for the link, very interesting. I can't wait for my brother to get a 335i...whether or not he wants to spend the money, I'm gonna mod it for him. Black with black rims, chrome lip. Vishnu ECU, catless exhaust...and possible turbo swap in the future
Turbo Swap? nice!

but there goes your warranty

BMW dealers are not very friendly too mods.. (at least from what I read that the Bimmer forums)
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one of my friends here is got a 2007 montego blue 335i sedan... his got some namebrand (neverheard of) boostgadge and ecu chip.. as we were driving to this car meet on the highway, we wanted to have a lil bit of fun, so i put my car in manual mode, and downshifted without knowing if thats a better idea than staying in auto dyno mode, but anyway, from 60mph-140mph.. i didnt have a chance against him, my car wasnt pulling at all, dont know if mine was messed up, or his is just fast, when we got to the car meet, i was running against a e60 m5, 1st 2nd 3rd gears, i was pulling a half a car ahead of him til 4th and 5th he pulled on me by 2 1/2 cars
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one of my friends here is got a 2007 montego blue 335i sedan... his got some namebrand (neverheard of) boostgadge and ecu chip.. as we were driving to this car meet on the highway, we wanted to have a lil bit of fun, so i put my car in manual mode, and downshifted without knowing if thats a better idea than staying in auto dyno mode, but anyway, from 60mph-140mph.. i didnt have a chance against him, my car wasnt pulling at all, dont know if mine was messed up, or his is just fast, when we got to the car meet, i was running against a e60 m5, 1st 2nd 3rd gears, i was pulling a half a car ahead of him til 4th and 5th he pulled on me by 2 1/2 cars
I saw your car at the E90 board..

he did talk about you and how he took you out.

and now he thinks all E55 will loose to him.

have your pump checked out.. you are NOT running at full steam.

335 with piggy back with boostgage.. should not beat a stock E55 at all.

Even if he had exaust,and intake as well.



If you are in So Cali... visit GMG in Santa Ana and have Vadim check your IC pump

You can buy a Johnson pump for around $100 and install is super simple.
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I will get video soon. We just have not had time. Fires, work and all. My brother now has the 96 octane switch hooked up. We will both fill up with 100 octane and do some runs. I do not think it will take my car. My E55 is running strong. He does not come close. Even with tracking control in forst gear, as soon as it is off I pull the 335i with ease. I want to see what the extra 4 lbs of boost gives him. I will call him and ask him to runn tonight.
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Originally Posted by draggingcents2
I will get video soon. We just have not had time. Fires, work and all. My brother now has the 96 octane switch hooked up. We will both fill up with 100 octane and do some runs. I do not think it will take my car. My E55 is running strong. He does not come close. Even with tracking control in forst gear, as soon as it is off I pull the 335i with ease. I want to see what the extra 4 lbs of boost gives him. I will call him and ask him to runn tonight.
look forward to your runs..

its nice to see a healthy E55 in action.

With more more boost, he will be there with you for a while.. but you should pull him at the end. Just my prediction.
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Naw I'm pretty sure that run with the m5s was in socal (sea level)

Also to the op I believe your brother is running a juice box stage 2 piggy back not a procede.
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true!

but the most recent Vishnu v2 trapped 109.xx and possibly 110 in good weather.. however it did manage a 12.4x. The pass was done today 10/18 (search E90post)

its hard to say why the traps are not higher for a 360 to 370 RWHP car that weighs around 3600 lbs.

with DP's, bigger IC Core, and exhaust they should be close to 390 to 400RWHP.. but you won't find too many of those.

Most xede and Procede cars are running high 12's and trapping 107 to 109

people expect the V2 only 335's to push them to 112's or so.. but that has not occurred yet. Probably will need a few more mods than a piggy back system to consistently break 110+ trap speeds.

BTW: The 335 hanging with the M5 is at a higher altitude... which Turbor cars don't have as much power loss as NA or Komp cars.

At sea level or neary sea level.. you will see a different outcome.

I'm all over the 335 and 135 guys... really want one to replace my E55. But many things have hold me back.

High Oil temps, limp mode, fuel pump, reliability of the piggy backs, and the dreaded heat soak.

I'm deciding to move to the C63 and wait a bit more.

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Originally Posted by Walked U
Naw I'm pretty sure that run with the m5s was in socal (sea level)

Also to the op I believe your brother is running a juice box stage 2 piggy back not a procede.
Dayum Sherwin,
You're just everywhere these days when someone talks about the runs you had against the two M5s.

Anyway, what up? It's Joe with the 545i SMG. As you can tell I stepped up and over to AMG. Hopefully, we can meet up next year in Socal after my project is completed in SF.
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Originally Posted by TopGun32
true!

but the most recent Vishnu v2 trapped 109.xx and possibly 110 in good weather.. however it did manage a 12.4x. The pass was done today 10/18 (search E90post)

its hard to say why the traps are not higher for a 360 to 370 RWHP car that weighs around 3600 lbs.

with DP's, bigger IC Core, and exhaust they should be close to 390 to 400RWHP.. but you won't find too many of those.

Most xede and Procede cars are running high 12's and trapping 107 to 109

people expect the V2 only 335's to push them to 112's or so.. but that has not occurred yet. Probably will need a few more mods than a piggy back system to consistently break 110+ trap speeds.

BTW: The 335 hanging with the M5 is at a higher altitude... which Turbor cars don't have as much power loss as NA or Komp cars.

At sea level or neary sea level.. you will see a different outcome.

I'm all over the 335 and 135 guys... really want one to replace my E55. But many things have hold me back.

High Oil temps, limp mode, fuel pump, reliability of the piggy backs, and the dreaded heat soak.

I'm deciding to move to the C63 and wait a bit more.
FYI that run was not at altitude that was at sea level.I know for a fact...Also the M5 owner was so impressed I heard he bought a 335.
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Dayum Sherwin,
You're just everywhere these days when someone talks about the runs you had against the two M5s.

Anyway, what up? It's Joe with the 545i SMG. As you can tell I stepped up and over to AMG. Hopefully, we can meet up next year in Socal after my project is completed in SF.
oh man whats up joe?

Haven't talked to you in a while. Ya chris told me you got a 63. Congrats man.

LOL ya ive done a few things to the car since then. Hit me up when you get out of norcal. Got some catching up to do.
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welcome aboard..

I read your posts all the time..


to be honest.. I have not seen any So Cal videos of a E60 M5 loosing to a modded 335.

I do remember your post when you kept up with a modded M5.. very nice runs.

But your car is not lightly modded. It pretty much has all the best stuff available to N54 engine.

Much props.. but the M5 walks just about any other car on the planet above 120 mph.

I think my original point was... (an is) a piggy back only 335 (SSTT, JSB2) or even Procede 1.47 and maybe V2 will not beat a stock E60 M5 or stock E55 at seal level

However you put both vehicles over 2000 ft elevation and the outcome is different.

There a few E90 post members.. really think that just having the SSTT/Procede v1/JSB2 on their car.. would kill 55's and M5's. That could be true on short runs around town 0-90.. anything can happen

Put both vehicles on a stretch of highway.. and the car with the higher trap speed will win.

Your 335 should be able to pull on a stock E55/E63.. based on the outcome vs the Modded E60.
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Originally Posted by jonmartin
FYI that run was not at altitude that was at sea level.I know for a fact...Also the M5 owner was so impressed I heard he bought a 335.
I was not refering to Walk-U runs with a modded M5

I was refering to a pigggy back only 335 vs a E60 m5 at high altitude..

here the one that stands out the most..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qFJj2U84LY

this is the only race I have seen a E60 m5 loosing to a PIGGY BACK only 335.. and it was due to high elevation.

put those 2 cars on sea level.. different outcome.
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Originally Posted by TopGun32
I was not refering to Walk-U runs with a modded M5

I was refering to a pigggy back only 335 vs a E60 m5 at high altitude..

here the one that stands out the most..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qFJj2U84LY

this is the only race I have seen a E60 m5 loosing to a PIGGY BACK only 335.. and it was due to high elevation.

put those 2 cars on sea level.. different outcome.
Ok ... But Sharewins car isn't "highly modded" as some say all he had is full TBE and FMIC with V2. Thats hardly major mods. But I see where your're coming from.
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Originally Posted by TopGun32
I was not refering to Walk-U runs with a modded M5

I was refering to a pigggy back only 335 vs a E60 m5 at high altitude..

here the one that stands out the most..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qFJj2U84LY

this is the only race I have seen a E60 m5 loosing to a PIGGY BACK only 335.. and it was due to high elevation.

put those 2 cars on sea level.. different outcome.
Thanks alot for the welcome.

My bad I thought you were talking about my videos since the link a few post above was to my thread.

Ya my car isn't fast. Its quick but I don't think I'm going to beat 997tt's anytime soon.

well I'm out of town right now but I'm supose to run a stock e55 soon. We will see how I do. I think it will be a drivers race. Ive switched my set up since ive last raced those m5s. (less power... I think)
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Originally Posted by MBE50003
you guys are all over the place... ridic
What are we not supposed to be here? Check my sig... See something intresting.In the list of cars..
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did i miss something
plenty of members on here that do not own MBs, so i see no reason to argue that.
To the BMW 335 drivers, welcome
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Some more fast 335 videos:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIjChRFKl8k

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XnDmt-2PmA
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Originally Posted by Walked U
Thanks alot for the welcome.

My bad I thought you were talking about my videos since the link a few post above was to my thread.

Ya my car isn't fast. Its quick but I don't think I'm going to beat 997tt's anytime soon.

well I'm out of town right now but I'm supose to run a stock e55 soon. We will see how I do. I think it will be a drivers race. Ive switched my set up since ive last raced those m5s. (less power... I think)
with your power to weight ratio, 1 extra gear, faster shifting than the old 5sp AMG, you should have not problem edging the E55 out from a roll..

from a dig.. I would think you will have issues putting your power down. The E55's squat very nicely at did, and the torque converter does an excellent job putting power down.

From a dig.. its a driver's race for sure.

what ever the outcome.. please don't for get to share with us.

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