New Custom Front Mount IC HE (2003 E55)
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while there's plenty of flow from the cm30, imho it's likely not going to push those flow rates in our systems...even with a bar/plate style heat exchanger.
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Is this thread going to turn into the "Group Buy" thread?
Or do we wait to see the vrus and code3 side by side?
Or do we wait to see the vrus and code3 side by side?
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GB # 500 ?
even if don't need, I'm in as HOMAGE to ART
... and STIMULUS for final GOAL
even if don't need, I'm in as HOMAGE to ART
... and STIMULUS for final GOAL
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Is this thread going to turn into the "Group Buy" thread?
Or do we wait to see the vrus and code3 side by side?
Or do we wait to see the vrus and code3 side by side?
SLR coolers. Well I have seen the pictures, and certainly think they are feasible. I think I will give Victor a call on that one and see what we can come up with
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I'll remember to take some pictures of the right side the next time the bumper is off (soon).
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now go on and take on the 335 that was talking smack..
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Hi Brandon ,
I think the results you published are very interesting but do you have the results of the OEM H/E to compare with?
I would also like to see when (if at all) IAT's plateau and at what speed this happens ...?
I think the results you published are very interesting but do you have the results of the OEM H/E to compare with?
I would also like to see when (if at all) IAT's plateau and at what speed this happens ...?
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Just an update as I have many people asking what is going on.
I am waiting on all of the oil brackets from Mercedes. Because of the large order, they had to source them from numerous places.
Tomorrow morning we are going to do some more datalogging. We are swapping the stock HE back on for some data. Then we are putting the Code3 Performance HE back on, along with the Johnson pump for additional data. This will give everyone some good solid data to compare.
There was some confusion as to the retail price of our heat exchanger. The price listed on our website was not the retail price, and was meant to be a sale price. I did not realize that it did not say that. Because of the confusion, I will still be listing the units with a small discount from that $699 price, and offer free shipping for a limited time.
I am waiting on all of the oil brackets from Mercedes. Because of the large order, they had to source them from numerous places.
Tomorrow morning we are going to do some more datalogging. We are swapping the stock HE back on for some data. Then we are putting the Code3 Performance HE back on, along with the Johnson pump for additional data. This will give everyone some good solid data to compare.
There was some confusion as to the retail price of our heat exchanger. The price listed on our website was not the retail price, and was meant to be a sale price. I did not realize that it did not say that. Because of the confusion, I will still be listing the units with a small discount from that $699 price, and offer free shipping for a limited time.
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Just an update as I have many people asking what is going on.
I am waiting on all of the oil brackets from Mercedes. Because of the large order, they had to source them from numerous places.
Tomorrow morning we are going to do some more datalogging. We are swapping the stock HE back on for some data. Then we are putting the Code3 Performance HE back on, along with the Johnson pump for additional data. This will give everyone some good solid data to compare.
There was some confusion as to the retail price of our heat exchanger. The price listed on our website was not the retail price, and was meant to be a sale price. I did not realize that it did not say that. Because of the confusion, I will still be listing the units with a small discount from that $699 price, and offer free shipping for a limited time.
I am waiting on all of the oil brackets from Mercedes. Because of the large order, they had to source them from numerous places.
Tomorrow morning we are going to do some more datalogging. We are swapping the stock HE back on for some data. Then we are putting the Code3 Performance HE back on, along with the Johnson pump for additional data. This will give everyone some good solid data to compare.
There was some confusion as to the retail price of our heat exchanger. The price listed on our website was not the retail price, and was meant to be a sale price. I did not realize that it did not say that. Because of the confusion, I will still be listing the units with a small discount from that $699 price, and offer free shipping for a limited time.
All sounds good. When can we expect to get the units?
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yup.. $699 shipped, plus a few bucks off.
Brandon,
you should do a group install.. for a handful of so Cal cars and nor cal cars.
suggest:
small sticker to place on the FMIC..
Brandon,
you should do a group install.. for a handful of so Cal cars and nor cal cars.
suggest:
small sticker to place on the FMIC..
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Here are some photos I took after we swapped back to the Code3 unit. Again, please remember that my unit is the PROTOTYPE with custom mounting brackets. The production ones will have OEM direct bolt-on brackets.
Dyno, is this what you were asking for? The right side of the HE?
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Swapped back to the stockers and did some datalogging... Numbers wont lie. I'll let Brandon post them. All I got to say is now I know why everyone say a cooling upgrade is a MUST for pulley'ed owners, especially the ASP.
Here are some photos I took after we swapped back to the Code3 unit. Again, please remember that my unit is the PROTOTYPE with custom mounting brackets. The production ones will have OEM direct bolt-on brackets.
Dyno, is this what you were asking for? The right side of the HE?
Here are some photos I took after we swapped back to the Code3 unit. Again, please remember that my unit is the PROTOTYPE with custom mounting brackets. The production ones will have OEM direct bolt-on brackets.
Dyno, is this what you were asking for? The right side of the HE?
and probably was performing worst than stock.
I can already see the ITA's spiking to 170 to 180 all the time..
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The first initial run with the stock HE, the ITA spiked up to ~230F... and that time I didn't even get to go pass 100mph due to traffic.
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Ok, here is the data. Thanks to Mark for spending a long day putting up with me
We swapped back to the stock heat exchanger for the sake of data. I am sure there are numbers floating around somewhere, but we really wanted to get some numbers on the same car, same mods, similar conditions. For comparison to the other graph, I posted it below. Stock pump was used for both tests.
The outside temperature was 65°
The two runs were 3 minutes apart again.
First run to 112mph (sorry, traffic), second run to 119mph.
IATs spiked to 181° on the first run (112mph), and settled to 140° in three minutes.
IATs spiked to 230° (119mph) on second run.
Before we started the first run, we drove until everything was warmed up, and we could get a baseline IAT number. The stock heat exchanger kept IATs around 30° above ambient during normal driving.
I will post our ad this afternoon, and update the website pricing.
We swapped back to the stock heat exchanger for the sake of data. I am sure there are numbers floating around somewhere, but we really wanted to get some numbers on the same car, same mods, similar conditions. For comparison to the other graph, I posted it below. Stock pump was used for both tests.
The outside temperature was 65°
The two runs were 3 minutes apart again.
First run to 112mph (sorry, traffic), second run to 119mph.
IATs spiked to 181° on the first run (112mph), and settled to 140° in three minutes.
IATs spiked to 230° (119mph) on second run.
Before we started the first run, we drove until everything was warmed up, and we could get a baseline IAT number. The stock heat exchanger kept IATs around 30° above ambient during normal driving.
I will post our ad this afternoon, and update the website pricing.
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ASP pullies run hot!
its those 110+ runs ....
the difference between stock and bigger FMIC on those pulls is the key.
Also notice how long it takes to cool down compared to the Code3 unit.
With a slightly better pump and better water mixture + water wetter would be see a slight improvement over the stock pump/coolant set up.
with a stock pulley.. the difference won't be as much, but definately would see the ECU pulling back as well.
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its those 110+ runs ....
the difference between stock and bigger FMIC on those pulls is the key.
Also notice how long it takes to cool down compared to the Code3 unit.
With a slightly better pump and better water mixture + water wetter would be see a slight improvement over the stock pump/coolant set up.
with a stock pulley.. the difference won't be as much, but definately would see the ECU pulling back as well.
thanks Brandon!
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Swapped back to the stockers and did some datalogging... Numbers wont lie. I'll let Brandon post them. All I got to say is now I know why everyone say a cooling upgrade is a MUST for pulley'ed owners, especially the ASP.
Here are some photos I took after we swapped back to the Code3 unit. Again, please remember that my unit is the PROTOTYPE with custom mounting brackets. The production ones will have OEM direct bolt-on brackets.
Dyno, is this what you were asking for? The right side of the HE?
Here are some photos I took after we swapped back to the Code3 unit. Again, please remember that my unit is the PROTOTYPE with custom mounting brackets. The production ones will have OEM direct bolt-on brackets.
Dyno, is this what you were asking for? The right side of the HE?
but, did you take them by phone ?
See where is the question mark in Evo add on application: in Code3 replacement application, therefore that blaack plastic and adiacent stock He no more exist. right?
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Yup. The code3 REPLACES the stock HE. No more stockers.
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seems to me that till end of 1st pull it was that better
but it's strange that after 2nd pull it was not good the same
Temp didn't lower that much even after enough time and low speed
in any case, results seem good
for BRANDON:
btw: - pulls were on same gear?
it's a pity that test wasn't made trying to keep same comparable speed
.. we could avoid one parameter and overlay curves on a single graph
now I'll do some copy and save for memory
ps: I'm having the idea that outside temp in LA is ... close to Sahara please, how much it normally is in spring and summer ?