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Old 11-19-2007, 11:55 PM
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As requested, here's the two vids of ENDSMTG's awesome Stg 2 car running against a new C6 Z06 at the Nov 10 Drag Day.

The Z06 asked for the "bust" on both races - this means that the Benz has to wait for the 'Vette to move first.

It didn't matter.

E55 vs Z06 race 1

E55 vs Z06 race 2



Here's the same E55 beating up on a low-11 second Mustang:

E55 vs Mustang



ENDSMTG (street tires) vs ChicagoX (drag radials):

ENDSMTG vs ChicagoX

Enjoy.
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Very Nice indeed!!! Strong Beasts!!!
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Do you guys always run no times? Or just on those passes?
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Do you guys always run no times? Or just on those passes?
The Z06 guy was a N/C (no clock) racer. He races on the street, so no runs with him are timed.
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The Z06 guy was a N/C (no clock) racer. He races on the street, so no runs with him are timed.
Gottcha.

The terminology from west cost to back there is different.Short time,bust and no clock arent heard out here too much.Sometimes I have to read it twice to grasp what you guys are talking about...lol

Any idea of what that vette was trapping?
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Originally Posted by Jrocket
...Any idea of what that vette was trapping?
Best guess? 125-127 mph.
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Best guess? 125-127 mph.
Nice.Was he pulling on the E55 on the big end?
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someone doesnt know how to drive
Uh, the 'Vette driver was a ringer brought in for the race....to whom are you referring?
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Nice.Was he pulling on the E55 on the big end?
Yep. He said he passed me right before the finish, but I thought it was right after...and the win light confirms it.
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Originally Posted by 6.3AMG
someone doesnt know how to drive
aint that the truth! that vette should ate that benz for lunch.
and i am a vette hater!!! cool race though shows even a monster z06 can be beaten.
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Originally Posted by ChicagoX
Uh, the 'Vette driver was a ringer brought in for the race....to whom are you referring?
Great runs.....but in the first one the Vette driver spun all the way through first and then clearly (audibly) missed the 1-2 shift.

The second run was better. Trust me no one wants to see video of our beasts beating Z06's more than me, but this guy didn't drive very well.

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Agreed. But he had 2 opportunites to get it right, and on both runs he had the break! What else, besides giving him lengths, were we supposed to do? By the way, doesn't the Z06 have the bigger engine of the 2? Why didn't we get the break instead?
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^^"why didnt we get the break instead?" Because you have an automatic and its much easier to launch your car. I'm not using this as an excuse, because I would have never asked for a break. Maybe the ZO6 driver didnt know how to launch his car(pretty obvious). But if both cars had equally capable drivers, this isnt even a fair race. The ZO6 would have killed the E55. There is no disputing that. Not taking anything away from you, its just that you beat a lousy driver, not the car.

And the bigger engine thing? C'mon, get real. you have a 5.4L supercharged motor. doesnt take much to make your motor more potent.
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Originally Posted by ENDSMTG
Agreed. But he had 2 opportunites to get it right, and on both runs he had the break! What else, besides giving him lengths, were we supposed to do? By the way, doesn't the Z06 have the bigger engine of the 2? Why didn't we get the break instead?

He wanted the break because he knew he couldn't drive. You didn't have to do anything more. Bad driver or not, a kill is a kill.....and those were both kills!
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Originally Posted by 6.3AMG
^^"why didnt we get the break instead?" Because you have an automatic and its much easier to launch your car. I'm not using this as an excuse, because I would have never asked for a break. Maybe the ZO6 driver didnt know how to launch his car(pretty obvious). But if both cars had equally capable drivers, this isnt even a fair race. The ZO6 would have killed the E55. There is no disputing that. Not taking anything away from you, its just that you beat a lousy driver, not the car.

And the bigger engine thing? C'mon, get real. you have a 5.4L supercharged motor. doesnt take much to make your motor more potent.
Whoa.....wait a minute! I'm disputing it! And I disagree, that Z06 is dead and my car killed it!(twice) Automatic or not, I'm tired of these Z06 guys thinking they reign supreme! What makes my car soo much easier to launch? You don't even know what kinda power my car is putting out, so how can U make that statement? And U R right it's not a fair race. A Z06 weighs what 3200lbs at 505hp vs me @ 4000lbs. at 600hp+! So yeah, UR right it wasn't a fair race b/c he had a weight advantage and the break! So here's 1 E55 that these bow ties better respect! However, next time I'm on the expressway I'll be sure to give a Z06 some room for the lack of an automatic tranny!
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Originally Posted by 6.3AMG
^^"why didnt we get the break instead?" Because you have an automatic and its much easier to launch your car. I'm not using this as an excuse, because I would have never asked for a break. Maybe the ZO6 driver didnt know how to launch his car(pretty obvious). But if both cars had equally capable drivers, this isnt even a fair race. The ZO6 would have killed the E55. There is no disputing that. Not taking anything away from you, its just that you beat a lousy driver, not the car.

And the bigger engine thing? C'mon, get real. you have a 5.4L supercharged motor. doesnt take much to make your motor more potent.
OK, I agree that the C6 Z06 is an animal. Fact is though, 11.7's are not uncommon for a stock Z06 (check dragtimes). Also, ChicagoX is a great driver, but even he would admit his launch with all that power wasn't perfect. The car is ENDSMTG's, so ChicagoX was driving someone else's car that he wasn't used to. He could have shaved a few tenths with a perfect launch also. Keep in mind the E55 was running 11.6's earlier in the day. As for the tranny...the E55 is an auto, BUT we could sit here all day and say "well if the E55 weighed 1000lbs less then..." Come on now the Manual tranny is part of the Z06, it is what it is.

As far as beating a lousy driver not the car... the car was right there with the driver at the end, THEY BOTH LOST.
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Originally Posted by ENDSMTG
Whoa.....wait a minute! I'm disputing it! And I disagree, that Z06 is dead and my car killed it!(twice) Automatic or not, I'm tired of these Z06 guys thinking they reign supreme! What makes my car soo much easier to launch? You don't even know what kinda power my car is putting out, so how can U make that statement? And U R right it's not a fair race. A Z06 weighs what 3200lbs at 505hp vs me @ 4000lbs. at 600hp+! So yeah, UR right it wasn't a fair race b/c he had a weight advantage and the break! So here's 1 E55 that these bow ties better respect! However, next time I'm on the expressway I'll be sure to give a Z06 some room for the lack of an automatic tranny!
+1,000,000

I was actually composing my reply at the same time as you were.
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Originally Posted by 6.3AMG
^^"why didnt we get the break instead?" Because you have an automatic and its much easier to launch your car. I'm not using this as an excuse, because I would have never asked for a break. Maybe the ZO6 driver didnt know how to launch his car(pretty obvious). But if both cars had equally capable drivers, this isnt even a fair race. The ZO6 would have killed the E55. There is no disputing that. Not taking anything away from you, its just that you beat a lousy driver, not the car.

And the bigger engine thing? C'mon, get real. you have a 5.4L supercharged motor. doesnt take much to make your motor more potent.
Really, oh I see what you are saying but wait, add 800 lbs to the Z06 and use the "perfect" driver. Which car would win? The weight advantage of the Z06 is the only winner......
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Originally Posted by ENDSMTG
Whoa.. I'm tired of these Z06 guys thinking they reign supreme!:
They don't have to think, they know. Just curious, why is everyone always comparing to the Z06. Why not apples to apples. M5, RS6 etc..? I don't compare my Viper to my 63, different animals.
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Originally Posted by 6.3AMG
^^"why didnt we get the break instead?" Because you have an automatic and its much easier to launch your car...
Spoken like someone who has never launched 600+ lb/ft on DOT tires.
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Oh and I don't think the vette had a chance against that car.
Coming from somebody who has driven that E and a couple Zo6s.
Hmm, maybe if we made it an automatic!!!!!

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