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Old Dec 9, 2007 | 11:06 PM
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I'm sure it was an SRT8 but I'll look again!



Looked again! Yep you're right it was a red Stango!

yeah that was a run that I was losing tracking like crazy first half of the track. After stomping on it after 1/2 point I still beat the stang.

Btw there were some sick cars there. There was a modified cobra in the 10s, a M3(horsepowerfreaks) that was trapping deep in the 120s, an Audi that was also mid 11s trapping in the 120s.

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Old Dec 9, 2007 | 11:08 PM
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Guys as usual it was a blast, great meeting everyone. Juice congrats bro on your time, glad to see you again. I was very disappointed in my results, best I did was a 12.7 @ 112. I ran in the left lane all day maybe I should have tried the right. I"m 100% stock other then some K&N's. Let just say goodbye to the Conti's next race will be with better tires and lighter wheels and maybe a few other little mods

Great seeing you again as well..

12.7 on that track is nothing to be disappointed in..We may as well have laid a sheet of ice in front of that first beam..LOL,

Thanks for the kind words
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Old Dec 9, 2007 | 11:50 PM
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OK, I have to make some correction.
my Best ET for that day was 12.557
MPh was 111.77
But I think I did do 115.XX miles once, that dam yellow slip they gave can't see ***** on it.
Here's the Video of that run, I was running with Jon2007E63P30's E63. Enjoy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWSjehLDq-A
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Old Dec 10, 2007 | 12:30 AM
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Originally Posted by 2003e55amg
OK, I have to make some correction.
my Best ET for that day was 12.557
MPh was 111.77
But I think I did do 115.XX miles once, that dam yellow slip they gave can't see ***** on it.
Here's the Video of that run, I was running with Jon2007E63P30's E63. Enjoy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWSjehLDq-A
Theres a good example of how you can lose a race and actually have a quicker ET, great run but you left slightly behind the other car so although he was slightly slower he beat you through the beam. Thats a great run considering the track conditions. Both cars trapped similarly there.

so shawns 11.7 E55 was the best we could do .. oh well better days ahead, next time hope they spray the track
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Old Dec 10, 2007 | 04:10 AM
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Hey Im new here, was out at Sac on saturday. I loved seeing all the AMGs, never seen so many of them together racing!

Was wondering if anyone had any vids of the black C6?

I was only able to get in three good runs, others I had to let off, traction was terrible.

12.10@121.1 2.11
12.08@117.9 2.09
12.18@120.7 2.14

Anyways it was great seeing so many nice cars out there. Peace.
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Old Dec 10, 2007 | 10:09 AM
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Is that stock? I know the 08 C6 made a significant jump in power but that's more than I thought.
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Old Dec 10, 2007 | 11:13 AM
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Carl, I was curious about what kind of trap speed I would see as a measure of my Hp. But with almost -2.0 degrees camber in the rear I just could not get any grip from the tires and so it really shows in the 60 ft times of 2.4 and 2.5 seconds.

I wonder if I had -1.0 neg camber and my Kumho Victoracers on if my 60 ft times would come down a bunch and result in a higher trap speed and faster ET's.

I might go back again when I get my LSD in and try one more time with my better tires which are 275/40/17 Kumho R-compounds.

The only way I could launch was to load the convertor to about 1500 rpm's and then ease out on the gas until I got past 20mph and knew the car would not down shift, but still stay in 1st gear and run out to shift into 2nd gear.

If I tried anymore throttle the tires would just spin and spin. I had two runs like that with 3.0 sec 60 ft times and 14.0 sec ET's

I pretty sure my times and speed would be very similar to PTE's time and speed if I did the above. Maybe a 12.8 sec and 111mph or so, vs. 13.2 sec and 109mph. I guess will just have to go try.

And Carl the Ram Air does come in nice on the last half of the run. The engine is still pulling real hard. I could actually pull on a either a C5 or early 2007, yellow C6 Corvette and against the one stock E55 Kompressor I was only getting pulled by just a few mph, about 3 mph on the one guy I lined up with.

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Old Dec 10, 2007 | 11:25 AM
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It was a great turn out and it was great meeting all of you. It's nice to put faces with names. I have not been on a drag strip since I was 16. I took my son along with me to check out all of the AMG's and to be my car chief. (dad you need more smoke and lots of it) LOL...

I started off with a goal of hitting 116 trap speed since someone on the board said that the 2004's usually run 112-114 and the 05-06 run 115-117.

Out of the box I started with a 12.452 @ 116.707 with a 2.131 60'...so much for that theory
I followed that up with a with a 12.359 @ 116.648 with a 2.067 60'.

My third run, which some of you saw I forgot to turn the ESC back on and pitched it sideways....I still managed to run a 13.835 @ 113.642

My 4th run was 12.353 @ 117.260 with a 2.094 60'.

My 5th run was 12.468 @ 117.735 with a 2.218 60'.

My best run was 12.255 @ 117.016 not sure of the 60' Adam has the slip.

During one run my fan came on before, during and after the burnout and I ran 12.742 @ 115.245 with a 2.165 60' so due to heat I lost almost 2mph and .5 sec.

My last run of the day was another 12.261 @ 116.530 with a 1.967 60'.

My car is all stock on 275/30/19's Nitto 555 @ 25lbs.

I think that if I can get my 60' down to 1.6-1.7 that it is a 11.9-12.0 car.

Maybe next time I will inflate the front tires to 40lbs, take out the spare & tools, hit the treadmill to drop 25lbs and tilt the sunroof to create more downforce while going down the track

oh by the way I also ran another 12.274 @ 116.634 with a 2.011 60'.

all in all it was a great day!

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Old Dec 10, 2007 | 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Hammer Down
It was a great turn out and it was great meeting all of you. It's nice to put faces with names. I have not been on a drag strip since I was 16. I took my son along with me to check out all of the AMG's and to be my car chief. (dad you need more smoke and lots of it) LOL...

I started off with a goal of hitting 116 trap speed since someone on the board said that the 2004's usually run 112-114 and the 05-06 run 115-117.

Out of the box I started with a 12.452 @ 116.707 with a 2.131 60'...so much for that theory
I followed that up with a with a 12.359 @ 116.648 with a 2.067 60'.

My third run, which some of you saw I forgot to turn the ESC back on and pitched it sideways....I still managed to run a 13.835 @ 113.642

My 4th run was 12.353 @ 117.260 with a 2.094 60'.

My 5th run was 12.468 @ 117.735 with a 2.218 60'.

My best run was 12.255 @ 117.016 not sure of the 60' Adam has the slip.

During one run my fan came on before, during and after the burnout and I ran 12.742 @ 115.245 with a 2.165 60' so due to heat I lost almost 2mph and .5 sec.

My last run of the day was another 12.261 @ 116.530 with a 1.967 60'.

My car is all stock on 275/30/19's Nitto 555 @ 25lbs.

I think that if I can get my 60' down to 1.6-1.7 that it is a 11.9-12.0 car.

Maybe next time I will inflate the front tires to 40lbs, take out the spare & tools, hit the treadmill to drop 25lbs and tilt the sunroof to create more downforce while going down the track

oh by the way I also ran another 12.274 @ 116.634 with a 2.011 60'.

all in all it was a great day!
very strong car.. fastest traps I seen on this side of the country (stock car).

Simple pulley and FMIC and you should be close to 119/120 with good traction.

I'm not sure if I agree about the trap speed variation between model years. Too many factors to make that call. If anything, E55 vary by engine not so much by year.
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Old Dec 10, 2007 | 12:08 PM
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so a few weeks ago.. there was a mini war about 63's vs 55...

on the same track on the same day and with the existing conditions..

stock vs stock.. who ran the fastest trap and ETA?
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Old Dec 10, 2007 | 12:58 PM
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Old Dec 10, 2007 | 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by TopGun32
so a few weeks ago.. there was a mini war about 63's vs 55...

on the same track on the same day and with the existing conditions..

stock vs stock.. who ran the fastest trap and ETA?
That would be be me (Hammer Down) @ 117.735 was my fastest trap and urfantasy ran a 12.20 beating me by .05
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Old Dec 10, 2007 | 02:10 PM
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Hey, not be rude seeing that I'm a total newb here, but did any of you guys happen to see a silver 1990 Ford Thunderbird there that made a 9 sec pass? He only made 2 passes all day (one of which was aborted early) so it would have been easy to miss but the car would have been loud as heck and rather obnoxious sounding as it was a V6 with open headers.

Just wanted to know if anyone recalls seeing the car. Thanks!
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Old Dec 10, 2007 | 02:45 PM
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K&N CAI and a Tune. So no vids of the black C6?
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Old Dec 10, 2007 | 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Hammer Down
It was a great turn out and it was great meeting all of you. It's nice to put faces with names. I have not been on a drag strip since I was 16. I took my son along with me to check out all of the AMG's and to be my car chief. (dad you need more smoke and lots of it) LOL...

I started off with a goal of hitting 116 trap speed since someone on the board said that the 2004's usually run 112-114 and the 05-06 run 115-117.

Out of the box I started with a 12.452 @ 116.707 with a 2.131 60'...so much for that theory
I followed that up with a with a 12.359 @ 116.648 with a 2.067 60'.

My third run, which some of you saw I forgot to turn the ESC back on and pitched it sideways....I still managed to run a 13.835 @ 113.642

My 4th run was 12.353 @ 117.260 with a 2.094 60'.

My 5th run was 12.468 @ 117.735 with a 2.218 60'.

My best run was 12.255 @ 117.016 not sure of the 60' Adam has the slip.

During one run my fan came on before, during and after the burnout and I ran 12.742 @ 115.245 with a 2.165 60' so due to heat I lost almost 2mph and .5 sec.

My last run of the day was another 12.261 @ 116.530 with a 1.967 60'.

My car is all stock on 275/30/19's Nitto 555 @ 25lbs.

I think that if I can get my 60' down to 1.6-1.7 that it is a 11.9-12.0 car.

Maybe next time I will inflate the front tires to 40lbs, take out the spare & tools, hit the treadmill to drop 25lbs and tilt the sunroof to create more downforce while going down the track

oh by the way I also ran another 12.274 @ 116.634 with a 2.011 60'.

all in all it was a great day!

Holy smokes....


Fastest runs I have seen in an E55 here in California that is STOCK!!!That entire day I thought your car had mods, cause you were trapping so high!!!!

Man great driving as nobody was pulling those low times like you. I enjoyed talking to your son, without his encouragement I would have stayed sulking in the stands..LOL.. Your E55 was out trapping the other cars by a wide margin, the other stock 55 pulled a slighty lower ET but only managed 111 mph.

Man I had my Nitto's in the trunk, guess I shoulda tried it!!!! Dam nice passes, see you again soon.
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Old Dec 10, 2007 | 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Panic Attack
Hey, not be rude seeing that I'm a total newb here, but did any of you guys happen to see a silver 1990 Ford Thunderbird there that made a 9 sec pass? He only made 2 passes all day (one of which was aborted early) so it would have been easy to miss but the car would have been loud as heck and rather obnoxious sounding as it was a V6 with open headers.

Just wanted to know if anyone recalls seeing the car. Thanks!
Actually i think I have it on Video DESTROYING an AMG .. LOL
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Old Dec 10, 2007 | 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by TopGun32
so a few weeks ago.. there was a mini war about 63's vs 55...

on the same track on the same day and with the existing conditions..

stock vs stock.. who ran the fastest trap and ETA?
E55 had the fastest trap and ET.

I think Hammer Down has the fastest stock 55 time in the WEST?/////
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Old Dec 10, 2007 | 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by juicee63
E55 had the fastest trap and ET.

I think Hammer Down has the fastest stock 55 time in the WEST?/////
I remember telling you and Mo that my car ran 12.15 at 115ish at Speedworld(bone stock!!!),but you guys didnt believe me...so now a stock E55 has trapped 117 and an et of 12.2? with poor traction.

Now do you believe people when they say the weather effects the 55's badly?
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Old Dec 10, 2007 | 03:16 PM
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I remember telling you and Mo that my car ran 12.15 at 115ish at Speedworld(bone stock!!!),but you guys didnt believe me...so now a stock E55 has trapped 117 and an et of 12.2? with poor traction.

Now do you believe people when they say the weather effects the 55's badly?


Why do you suppose shawn could not beat his Fontana times? I know the traction boned him but shouldnt his car trapped higher than the stock 55's? Also the slk 55 even on his best pass was out trapped by this 55? The other 55's never got close 115 let alone 117, so one of the cars traps 117 while the other 5 cars are 110-113


12.15 is dam quick and totally possible in cool air, I think a 63 will do this with a better 60. what do you guys think were the 55's whooping up on the 63's? I raced a E55(uurfantasy) and it was decided by .19/1000ths with my car outrapping that 55 by 4 mph and my et was .026 faster.. LOL, he did tree me

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Old Dec 10, 2007 | 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Jrocket
I remember telling you and Mo that my car ran 12.15 at 115ish at Speedworld(bone stock!!!),but you guys didnt believe me...so now a stock E55 has trapped 117 and an et of 12.2? with poor traction.

Now do you believe people when they say the weather effects the 55's badly?
Yes I do now

But it also seems like the 55s benefit much more from the good weather as well.

The reason I was in doubt was because in a hot day @ Fontana, stock 55s were running 12.9 to 13.1 while 63 were running 12.7 to 12.9. But when we went to good weather, E55s ran 12.2 to 12.4 all day long while E63 had trouble breaking 12.5
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Originally Posted by juicee63
Why do you suppose shawn could not beat his Fontana times? I know the traction boned him but shouldnt his car trapped higher than the stock 55's? Also the slk 55 even on his best pass was out trapped by this 55? The other 55's never got close 115 let alone 117, so one of the cars traps 117 while the other 5 cars are 110-113
Oh yeah, that was another strange thing. Some stock E55s were running 12.7 to 12.9 @ 110 to 111.x while other stock E55s were running 12.20 @ 117.......... so we got very scattered data that day

Even Shawn's car (stage 2) had trouble breaking 12.0s all day (and he had brand new drag radials on) until last couple of runs, he managed one 11.7 pass So if he averaged 12.0 that day, then his mods didn't really improve his car from stock E55s running at 12.20s. Also, I think traction was worst for him due to the power his car was putting down

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Originally Posted by juicee63
Why do you suppose shawn could not beat his Fontana times? I know the traction boned him but shouldnt his car trapped higher than the stock 55's? Also the slk 55 even on his best pass was out trapped by this 55? The other 55's never got close 115 let alone 117, so one of the cars traps 117 while the other 5 cars are 110-113
I think Shawns car needs better cooling,an 80mm TB and the ECU redone.Mainly the Tb and ECU redone.

Whats the SLK55? Have no idea of what he has?

The 55 have more than just one or even two items that are capable of ruining the trap speeds.Its been explained over and over,the many inputs that are capable of killing the trap speeds on the 55's.The ECU pulls timing far to soon on the 55's.
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12.15 is dam quick and totally possible in cool air,
A few reasons why it ran that.Decent 60ft time on stock Conti's,excellent weather and great DA's for the day.As the day waromde up and my car did too,the best I could do was 12.3X to 12.4X at 114.
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Whats the SLK55? Have no idea of what he has?
Remember I wasn't able to get a great run. I only had one opportunity and it was off because I wasn't aware of how sticky it was at that point.

I had a trap speed of 118.5 mph on that run.
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Old Dec 10, 2007 | 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by MB_Forever

Even Shawn's car (stage 2) had trouble breaking 12.0s all day (and he had brand new drag radials on) until last couple of runs, he managed one 11.7 pass So if he averaged 12.0 that day, then his mods didn't really improve his car from stock E55s running at 12.20s. Also, I think traction was worst for him due to the power his car was putting down
Shawns car should run better,Ive told you guys what I thought about it already many times.
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