*** VRP 5.7L Engine Build ***

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Dec 7, 2008 | 02:06 PM
  #176  
Quote: Are you kidding? After all that? Thought you guys had it down to science/blueprint etc. Very sorry to hear man. I know a lot of the guys here (including me) have been watching this thread for quite sometime. So what's next? Brabus?
I think he could call RENNtech. Not cheap but the motor they built for BenzGal was amazingly strong and it is really one of a kind.

I really feel bad for the OP here. That must be a real blow mentally. One year no car and it has lost likely 25k in value in that time and he never got to drive it too!
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Dec 7, 2008 | 02:18 PM
  #177  
Never forget when the AMG chief made the statement, "Look, there's just no way to push these motors over 750hp."

Looks like we have come up against the barrier on these babies.

Vadim himself said he thinks we have maxed out the current supercharger output with the large pullies we are running.

Think the lower 700 range is gonna be bout it, perhaps right up to 750 if someone wanted to do all out mods AND spring massive cash for SLR coolers.

Hats off to Havoc for giving it the ole college try!!

Just like my 2.82 gear idea, blows when it doesn't work out.
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Dec 7, 2008 | 02:25 PM
  #178  
Quote: Well Thericker, it’s with great sadness that I post my last update on VRP’s 5.7L Engine Build.

Unfortunately, the 5.7L has a knocking sound in addition to the particles in the oil. Since the engine builder is unable to locate the source of the problem at this time, I asked Victor to buy the project back from me.

No worries though, as I’m still in search to build the ultimate 55 beast. So until then, its back to the drawing board for the Havoc! Stay Tuned!

Thanks to everyone for your support.
Did he agree? I assume you are talking about a brand new engine and install.

Sorry to hear about your misfortune, good luck with your next "ultimate 55 beast."
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Dec 7, 2008 | 02:27 PM
  #179  
Quote: Well Thericker, it’s with great sadness that I post my last update on VRP’s 5.7L Engine Build.

Unfortunately, the 5.7L has a knocking sound in addition to the particles in the oil. Since the engine builder is unable to locate the source of the problem at this time, I asked Victor to buy the project back from me.

No worries though, as I’m still in search to build the ultimate 55 beast. So until then, its back to the drawing board for the Havoc! Stay Tuned!

Thanks to everyone for your support.
Holy smokes, Its not april is it cuzz this has to be a joke. If it were true you dont even seem mad???? I dont even know what they could do to make that right. You sir are one cool customer.
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Dec 7, 2008 | 02:29 PM
  #180  
Quote: Did he agree? I assume you are talking about a brand new engine and install.

Sorry to hear about your misfortune, good luck with your next "ultimate 55 beast."
I would assume a new motor with all their bolt on mods at the very least.
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Dec 7, 2008 | 02:35 PM
  #181  
Quote: Well Thericker, it’s with great sadness that I post my last update on VRP’s 5.7L Engine Build.

Unfortunately, the 5.7L has a knocking sound in addition to the particles in the oil. Since the engine builder is unable to locate the source of the problem at this time, I asked Victor to buy the project back from me.

No worries though, as I’m still in search to build the ultimate 55 beast. So until then, its back to the drawing board for the Havoc! Stay Tuned!

Thanks to everyone for your support.
Sorry to hear!
Good luck on your next project!
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Dec 7, 2008 | 06:26 PM
  #182  
Quote: I really hope your 5.7 bottom is up and running soon!

I finally pulled the trigger and Vadim is now upgrading my engine, tranny and suspension complete with twin-turbos on top of my Kleemann twin-screw supercharger...I kept trying to push him to increase displacement to 6.1 like Brabus but finally we both agreed that leaving it at 5.5 and increasing boost would yield just as much power with much less hassle and risk.
I bet you are thanking your lucky stars you didn't squeeze Vadim for that 6.1 liter!
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Dec 7, 2008 | 06:39 PM
  #183  
So sorry to hear this bud!
Quote: Well Thericker, it’s with great sadness that I post my last update on VRP’s 5.7L Engine Build.

Unfortunately, the 5.7L has a knocking sound in addition to the particles in the oil. Since the engine builder is unable to locate the source of the problem at this time, I asked Victor to buy the project back from me.

No worries though, as I’m still in search to build the ultimate 55 beast. So until then, its back to the drawing board for the Havoc! Stay Tuned!

Thanks to everyone for your support.
You certainly are cool under pressure if this was AMGSC "Robert" I'm afraid he would have odered a Nuclear strike
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Dec 8, 2008 | 01:59 AM
  #184  
Sorry to hear the Bad News with the motor. I'm sure VRP will do the right thing, Victor seems to be a fair guy. Good luck let us know the outcome..
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Dec 8, 2008 | 09:55 AM
  #185  
Quote: I think he could call RENNtech. Not cheap but the motor they built for BenzGal was amazingly strong and it is really one of a kind.
Have you seen it in person or have driven it? Or are you just basing it on her posts. Just curious.
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Dec 8, 2008 | 12:00 PM
  #186  
Quote: Have you seen it in person or have driven it? Or are you just basing it on her posts. Just curious.
+1
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Dec 8, 2008 | 12:01 PM
  #187  
Hey Guys
Victor and I are in the process of a resolution. I trust him so therefore I’m not too concerned. I’ll advise you guys of the turn out either way.

I’m sure Victor will get the 5.7L running properly, but at this time I rather take a new direction. I'm still going to have Vadim do the install and tuning of my new build. I’m in talks with different people in regards to my options. I’ll post a new thread once my project commences. Thanks!
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Dec 8, 2008 | 12:11 PM
  #188  
How do you judge how strong an engine is built by seeing the car or even driving it?
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Dec 9, 2008 | 09:24 AM
  #189  
holy crap had no idea these 4 little pages covered a year!!! damn, sorry to hear man, gl.
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Dec 10, 2008 | 12:02 AM
  #190  
Quote: Never forget when the AMG chief made the statement, "Look, there's just no way to push these motors over 750hp."

Looks like we have come up against the barrier on these babies.

Vadim himself said he thinks we have maxed out the current supercharger output with the large pullies we are running.

Think the lower 700 range is gonna be bout it, perhaps right up to 750 if someone wanted to do all out mods AND spring massive cash for SLR coolers.

Hats off to Havoc for giving it the ole college try!!

Just like my 2.82 gear idea, blows when it doesn't work out.
Nothing in the damage suggests that anything was overpowered. There isn't any evidence that the horsepower limit has been reached or surpassed.
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Dec 10, 2008 | 12:06 AM
  #191  
Quote: This just shows motor builds are for the few while tuning with go fast parts can be done by many tuners.
One example is not enough for you to draw such a conclusion. Everyone should refrain from any speculation until the engine is disassembled and inspected.
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Dec 10, 2008 | 01:06 AM
  #192  
Quote: One example is not enough for you to draw such a conclusion. Everyone should refrain from any speculation until the engine is disassembled and inspected.
2nd
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Dec 10, 2008 | 01:19 AM
  #193  
Quote: Everyone should refrain from any speculation until the engine is disassembled and inspected.
But they already did this...
Quote: Victor just sent me some pics.
The 5.7L is completely apart including the heads. They have checked every bolt and every part. There is no heat marks, no broken material , no damage anywhere that is visible.
The engine builder is now going the extra length and measuring all the components and checking tolerances.

Quote: Unfortunately, the 5.7L has a knocking sound in addition to the particles in the oil. Since the engine builder is unable to locate the source of the problem at this time
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Dec 10, 2008 | 02:42 PM
  #194  
Quote: But they already did this...


Sounds like a work in progress. If there is a knock or failure of any type, or clearance issue, it will show itself. Usually not until a thorough inspection is completed.
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Dec 10, 2008 | 05:13 PM
  #195  
A single spun bearing with such low hours on the motor indicates incorrect clearance on that particular bearing.
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Jan 21, 2009 | 11:36 AM
  #196  
Hey Guys,
I decided to continue with VRP’s 5.7L Engine Build. Victor has addressed my concerns and has offered me a warranty I just can not refuse.

At this point in time the engine will be shipped to Vadim soon where he will do the install and addition of mods.

Hang in there with me guys, the 5.7L is about to come to life again!
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Jan 21, 2009 | 11:45 AM
  #197  
Whoo Hoo !!!!
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Jan 21, 2009 | 12:01 PM
  #198  
Quote: I decided to continue with VRP’s 5.7L Engine Build. Victor has addressed my concerns and has offered me a warranty I just can not refuse.

At this point in time the engine will be shipped to Vadim soon where he will do the install and addition of mods.

Hang in there with me guys, the 5.7L is about to come to life again!

Glad to hear that it's going to work out for you, Havoc!
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Jan 21, 2009 | 12:35 PM
  #199  
Good luck !!! Can't wait to see it run !!!
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Jan 21, 2009 | 03:56 PM
  #200  
Quote: Glad to hear that it's going to work out for you, Havoc!
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