). If you could only get 12.5, I can't imagine what my car could get.... 13? 
never ever going to sac raceway again!
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never ever going to sac raceway again!
Same old story tires spin and spin! I ran a incredable 12.5 I didnt keep the slip but im sure I had a 3min 60'. after that run I just watched to see if it was me but nope alot of cars spinning even the big dogs.
Sorry Vic I realy wanted to see what the Cams did if anything but there is just no traction here. It was also hot and alot of cars so I didnt bother tryin again.
Side note everyone liked my rims.lol
Sorry Vic I realy wanted to see what the Cams did if anything but there is just no traction here. It was also hot and alot of cars so I didnt bother tryin again.
Side note everyone liked my rims.lol
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What the hell is wrong with that track??!!!!
Never seen anything like it.
The sad part is, when a guy wipes it and is seriously injured, THEN they'll start using the VHT.
Never seen anything like it.
The sad part is, when a guy wipes it and is seriously injured, THEN they'll start using the VHT.
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Jackpro you get to the dyno yet? according to adams dyno I lost power. Kinda sucks that I cant even get a good launch to see if the track times are different. I think Im gonna try Infenion wanna come?
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Rocket, the only thing that matters was your trap speed, especially if checking for a power increase with the addition of the cams. So, what was it?
BTW, 12.5 is not that bad. I've done 12.8 @ 124mph
BTW, 12.5 is not that bad. I've done 12.8 @ 124mph
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EDIT: I also added VRUS air box phelonic spacers and seperated cooling lines. NONE of it helped.
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We all need a day at Speedworld or Fontana or Famoso. Sacramento simply is DONE.SAD SAD SAD best chance we have of hanging with the beasts from the east and they pour marbles on the flippin track
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The track at Sacramento is just way too slipery. I saw normal street cars with just 200 hp that were still slipping on the staging lanes let alone AMGs or modified AMGs
Adam, please make sure the OVER-PREP that track for us by our next event.
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I do not know from personal experience, and that would be a hell of a long drive for you guys. 
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You guys are missing the point of Rocket's post. It was not about how bad the track sucked. He went to the track to see if his VRP cams gave him more HP. His dyno was down after he installed the cams and this track run, specifically his trap speed confirmed the loss of power.
I hope this was an aberration because I also just spent a bunch of money on these cams.
Jakpro, Victor, please chime in.
I hope this was an aberration because I also just spent a bunch of money on these cams.
Jakpro, Victor, please chime in.
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You guys are missing the point of Rocket's post. It was not about how bad the track sucked. He went to the track to see if his VRP cams gave him more HP. His dyno was down after he installed the cams and this track run, specifically his trap speed confirmed the loss of power.
I hope this was an aberration because I also just spent a bunch of money on these cams.
Jakpro, Victor, please chime in.
I hope this was an aberration because I also just spent a bunch of money on these cams.
Jakpro, Victor, please chime in.
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If he cannot go WOT down the track due to traction how can you measure hp from trap speed when he is off throttle? 117 trap in SAC is what a stock 55 does, easily. 12.5 aint terrible but he likely could not go WOT w/o sliding ..If he was full throttle there is a problem
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I was wide open! but when I launched it spun bogged down and took off again. I have to run TC and slightly push the pedal to even come close to stayin straight. I will not run at sac with out traction control.lol I tryed that one time and I almost smacked in to scotts SL65 I was so sideways.
Id get her back to Adam asap and do a couple runs make sure your throttle body is working and ecu is tuned properly for your new power. Dam sucks bro ,maybe we should all head to Infinion? give me a date dayum
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Juciee, et is traction dependent but trap speed is not. Trap speed tends to be a good indicator hp and a good way to determine if mods actually increased hp.
I assume Rocket regularly traps @ 120-122 at this track........well today he trapped @117 and that was after the addition of cams and spacers. I do not care if he spun a quarter of the way down the track.......his terminal velocity still should have been much higher than 117. Yes, this could have been an aberration but I think his car (and not the track) is having the real issue.
I assume Rocket regularly traps @ 120-122 at this track........well today he trapped @117 and that was after the addition of cams and spacers. I do not care if he spun a quarter of the way down the track.......his terminal velocity still should have been much higher than 117. Yes, this could have been an aberration but I think his car (and not the track) is having the real issue.
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wow, so you were WOT after initially not hooking , anybody data log? sounds like the 63 curse is still on ya
Id get her back to Adam asap and do a couple runs make sure your throttle body is working and ecu is tuned properly for your new power. Dam sucks bro ,maybe we should all head to Infinion? give me a date dayum
Id get her back to Adam asap and do a couple runs make sure your throttle body is working and ecu is tuned properly for your new power. Dam sucks bro ,maybe we should all head to Infinion? give me a date dayum
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Juciee, et is traction dependent but trap speed is not. Trap speed tends to be a good indicator hp and a good way to determine if mods actually increased hp.
I assume Rocket regularly traps @ 120-122 at this track........well today he trapped @117 and that was after the addition of cams and spacers. I do not care if he spun a quarter of the way down the track.......his terminal velocity still should have been much higher than 117. Yes, this could have been an aberration but I think his car (and not the track) is having the real issue.
I assume Rocket regularly traps @ 120-122 at this track........well today he trapped @117 and that was after the addition of cams and spacers. I do not care if he spun a quarter of the way down the track.......his terminal velocity still should have been much higher than 117. Yes, this could have been an aberration but I think his car (and not the track) is having the real issue.
in theory yes, but if you cannot make the pass based on traction loss, many folks let up, and for good reason. I thought perhaps he coasted like he usually does when scurred. I saw this same carmake a 28 second pass course that was driver coolness!!
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rocket's car definitely needs a retune and like what rocket said, he thought these cams do not require additional programming.
The trap speed does indeed confirm that rocket's car loss power.
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The trap speed does indeed confirm that rocket's car loss power.
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Man another bad day at Sac, unbelievable no change at all since the last get together. Glad I didn't go, besides my mods are talking forever to get here.
I am so down for Infinion, let's make this the next meet. Can anyone in the BA vouch on the track prep?
I am so down for Infinion, let's make this the next meet. Can anyone in the BA vouch on the track prep?
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Lets be real here how much can my car gain even if oliver dyno tunes it? not much if anything it will get back to where I was. so lets run it the right way at Infineon? Im sure Juice would come.lol.
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hey buddy let make a trip to infineon next weekend and do this right. I hear they have good prep. I feel that it is not fair to Vic unless we can get a real run in. you already know how I feel about dynos. I dont belive them.
Lets be real here how much can my car gain even if oliver dyno tunes it? not much if anything it will get back to where I was. so lets run it the right way at Infineon? Im sure Juice would come.lol.
Lets be real here how much can my car gain even if oliver dyno tunes it? not much if anything it will get back to where I was. so lets run it the right way at Infineon? Im sure Juice would come.lol.
Give us the beast next week, and then we will check it out and go from there.
No problem on Infineon.
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Rocket,
as for cams, please make sure the following :
1. Cams were installed with CAM alignment tools
2. CRANK was exactly at specified degree mark
3. Air Recirc valves WERE removed before aligning cams. If not cam may be off one tooth. THIS IS A MUST. One of the cam tools hits the valve. 126/1 and 126/2
We have these cams on BMS's car and he has gains. I will try and get dyno sheets.
as for cams, please make sure the following :
1. Cams were installed with CAM alignment tools
2. CRANK was exactly at specified degree mark
3. Air Recirc valves WERE removed before aligning cams. If not cam may be off one tooth. THIS IS A MUST. One of the cam tools hits the valve. 126/1 and 126/2
We have these cams on BMS's car and he has gains. I will try and get dyno sheets.
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