Originally Posted by chiromikey

i brought this up in another thread. it seems to be completely opposite of what we'd expect.

Originally Posted by TMC M5

Maybe the 55K intercoolers were working optimally as the 46 degree air and higher airflow at elevated speed is helping it keep cool, as the car is heading down the track...while Jim's car was contending with 20 degrees warmer air and humidity?

Tom

Originally Posted by blackbenzz

What confuses me is that with 100 shot of nitrous he isn't gaining any ET. Traction maybe?

Originally Posted by chiromikey

lol. I've never raced in 46degree weather! you can knock off another tenth and add a mph if I ever get so lucky...

Originally Posted by TMC M5

Oh..ok...the list above looks like it lists 46.0 on your run as the temp...or is that humidity?

Tom

Originally Posted by chiromikey

I'm not sure what that is but I doubt it's humidity also. the best temps I have ever run here in the desert are low 60's and once high 50's.

Originally Posted by rarfinancial

When are we going to hit the track again? or just have a Lunchin with the crew? I'M GETT'IN ITCHY

Originally Posted by chiromikey

i totally agree with you juicee and understand where you're getting your numbers from, but i didn't submit the 46* on dragtimes and nobody at the track was reporting sub 50 degree temps. iirc, i was told 52* before i left after getting kicked out (about a half hour after the run).

either way, you're right, it was as good as firebird gets and there's some power left in the car if i can get her to mir and start adding ice to the i/c.

Originally Posted by juicee63

1. 10.58 132.460 6.885 105.550 1.610 50.0 Mercedes-Benz S600 RENNtech Nitrous 2003 Stephen F. Selden NOS

2. 10.745 132.210 6.985 103.030 1.718 73.0 Mercedes-Benz E55 AMG VRUS ecu and NOS 2005 rflow NOS

3. 10.853 124.929 6.973 103.605 1.583 61.0 Mercedes-Benz SL65 AMG RENNtech 2005 Lou Fishgold All motor #1

4. 10.950 131.230 7.108 100.580 1.698 70.0 Mercedes-Benz E55 AMG Kleemann Stage 2 2005 Derek NOS

5. 10.980 123.420 7.046 98.850 1.612 55.0 Mercedes-Benz CL600 2005 JWade

6. 10.996 125.670 7.093 101.310 1.666 47.0 Mercedes-Benz CL600 2005 JWade

7. 11.069 128.716 7.139 99.215 1.673 Mercedes-Benz S65 AMG RENNtech 2006 Roger Ver

8. 11.142 125.940 7.191 97.170 1.683 65.0 Mercedes-Benz CL600 2005 JWade

9. 11.178 125.240 7.229 98.150 1.704 Mercedes-Benz E55 AMG E55K 2005 Rick

10. 11.18 125.08 7.243 98.56 1.683 Mercedes-Benz CL65 AMG 2006 SGC

11. 11.221 122.310 7.230 97.740 1.669 77.0 Mercedes-Benz CL600 2005 JWade

12. 11.259 125.668 7.234 96.498 1.597 61.0 Mercedes-Benz SL600 RennTech 2004 Joe Curry

13. 11.267 123.729 7.273 xx.xxx 1.675 77.0 Mercedes-Benz SL65 AMG RennTech 2005 Lou Fishgold

14. 11.324 123.418 7.326 1.713 81.0 Mercedes-Benz SL65 AMG RennTech 2005 Joe Curry

15. 11.341 123.810 7.338 96.670 1.714 74.0 Mercedes-Benz E55 AMG 2005 rflow

16. 11.380 127.200 Mercedes-Benz SL65 AMG 2005 Benjamin Treynor

17. 11.389 122.240 7.303 95.980 1.610 53.0 Mercedes-Benz E55 AMG 2004 Derrick DJE55

18. 11.395 127.190 Mercedes-Benz SL65 AMG RENNtech 2005 treynor

19. 11.420 124.600 Mercedes-Benz SL65 AMG 2005 randall@mbwerks.com


20. 11.436 122.414 Mercedes-Benz SL600 RennTech 2004 Joe Curry

21. 11.440 119.530 7.340 95.150 1.620 65.0Mercedes CL600 2003 Chas Jr

22. 11.468 121.010 7.414 96.620 1.767 Mercedes-Benz E300 turbodiesel 1996 Antti

23. 11.470* 122.160 7.387 95.140 1.682 Mercedes-Benz E55 AMG 2004 Kleeman ECU, VRP TB 80mm,headers,cams,exhaust,BFG HigginsBeach

24. 11.474 120.277 7.384 95.325 1.750 85.0 Mercedes-Benz E55 AMG Kleeman K2 2003 Jakpro1

25. 11.480 120.53 7.390 94.73 1.667 48.0 Mercedes Benz CLK55 AMG 2001
Kleemann s/c @ 7 PSI, kleemann ecu tune, kleemann headers, kleemann LSD, eisenmann race exhaust, custom HE, and E55 intake (blackbenzz)

26. 11.486 122.070 7.417 95.640 1.710 46.0 Mercedes-Benz E55 AMG 2003 chiromikey

27. 11.490 123.260 7.507 97.880 1.882 60.0 Mercedes-Benz SL600 RennTech 2004 Arnold Curry

Originally Posted by MB_Forever

We're hitting Famoso on December 12/13 for a private rental. We're trying to aim for a low DA day.

Originally Posted by DerekFSU

Hope you folks are doing well. The E is kickin' it in Orlando now with the Mom. Running Gainesville tomorrow night with the new GTR. Any E's up for it?

Juicee, thanks for keeping me on the list! Feels good to still be somewhere on there!

Originally Posted by enzom

PLEASE POST UP!! Curious to see how you do with the GTR.

Originally Posted by jrcart

I can tell you what he's gonna run with the GTR if it's stock...12.6's or 12.7's, that is what everyone wth stock GTR's are running. I've been at the strip where 3 of them were running and the best they could muster were low 12.7's. That car is a huge disapointment. I've been on Road America with one as well and I'm not sure if it was the driver or the car, but it could not get out of it's own way, the lack of MPH on the straights was really bad. If I owned one of them I would be pretty PO'ed and looking for tuners to make it into the sports car it was hyped up to be.

Originally Posted by jmf003

Car and Driver got to the bottom of the issue: http://www.caranddriver.com/features...sepower_column

In a nutshell, the GTRs that run mid 11s have ECUs tweaked to make 520 horsepower while the GTRs that run 12s have ECUs tweaked to make just the advertised 480 horsepower.

Based on what Nissan told them, C&D is expecting production cars to make 520 horsepower but if you're seeing 12s on the strip, then it sounds like cars are shipping with the ECU at the more conservative settings.

FWIW....

Originally Posted by enzom

Good find. I'd be interested in seeing some real private owner dyno's. Who knows if the "program" was just a tune for C&D.

Originally Posted by jrcart

I can tell you what he's gonna run with the GTR if it's stock...12.6's or 12.7's, that is what everyone wth stock GTR's are running. I've been at the strip where 3 of them were running and the best they could muster were low 12.7's. That car is a huge disapointment. I've been on Road America with one as well and I'm not sure if it was the driver or the car, but it could not get out of it's own way, the lack of MPH on the straights was really bad. If I owned one of them I would be pretty PO'ed and looking for tuners to make it into the sports car it was hyped up to be.

Originally Posted by DerekFSU

Was only checking in and making an invitation, no need to turn it into a thread jack. I'll start a new thread with what happens.

Originally Posted by MB_Forever

It probably was. Either that or the magazine favored the car somehow. It wouldn't really be the first time. Jim stated that he saw these cars personally run at the track at 12.70s and 12.70s is very different than 11.60s

Originally Posted by chiromikey

let's be honest. you can't go by what you see joe schmuck run at your local drag strip. if that were the case, we could more easily say the same thing about the c6 z06.

Originally Posted by jrcart

I thought the same exact thing the first time I saw a guy lay down 5 back to back to back 12.7's in a GTR, he must not know what he is doing. Then a few weeks later I was at the track and there were 2 different GTR running back to back to back 12.6's and 12'7. 3 different cars with 3 different drivers on two different dates at 2 different tracks making about 20 passes collectivly all within .200 of each other is more tha a cse of a bad driver. If anything their consistancy tells me they are probably good drivers. Say and believe what you want but I saw it with my own eyes and people from other boards including the nissan boards are seeing the same exact times out of stock GTR's.