Mustang Dyno Results
01-22-2008, 09:26 AM
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What is up bro. Nah, just having a lighter moment with all of the stuff we have going on. The crack is an inside joke on the last time I decided to get involved with a tuner. This time, things are different.
01-22-2008, 02:12 PM
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I just want to say that I feel Mustang dynos are better then Dynojets because of the fact that the mustangs take into consideration the true weight of the car, where the dynojet figured the weight of the car at 2900lbs.
I would take a lower reading/true reading of a mustang over a dynojet. As far as mustangs not being repeatable numbers, where do you get that? That makes no sense.
just my .02.
DKM
I would take a lower reading/true reading of a mustang over a dynojet. As far as mustangs not being repeatable numbers, where do you get that? That makes no sense.
just my .02.
DKM
Ok, so now it is on different dyno.
How does it correlate to Dynojet??? 10%, 12% 15% Who knows???
Mustangs are known for non-repeable numbers.
So now if you post any gains with the headers, how does one know what correction factors were used?
Charles, you just wasted your afternoon and my morning trying to get you in on repeatable Dynojet - this is why I am upset. You asked me to look at your dyno and help you with - I can not help you, you used the wrong dyno - this is why I am upset.
P.S. Victor has a new air box on the way for you. I will call you when it is here.
How does it correlate to Dynojet??? 10%, 12% 15% Who knows???
Mustangs are known for non-repeable numbers.
So now if you post any gains with the headers, how does one know what correction factors were used?
Charles, you just wasted your afternoon and my morning trying to get you in on repeatable Dynojet - this is why I am upset. You asked me to look at your dyno and help you with - I can not help you, you used the wrong dyno - this is why I am upset.
P.S. Victor has a new air box on the way for you. I will call you when it is here.
01-22-2008, 04:01 PM
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I just want to say that I feel Mustang dynos are better then Dynojets because of the fact that the mustangs take into consideration the true weight of the car, where the dynojet figured the weight of the car at 2900lbs.
I would take a lower reading/true reading of a mustang over a dynojet. As far as mustangs not being repeatable numbers, where do you get that? That makes no sense.
just my .02.
DKM
I would take a lower reading/true reading of a mustang over a dynojet. As far as mustangs not being repeatable numbers, where do you get that? That makes no sense.
just my .02.
DKM
They both (Mustang and Dynojet) let the operator adjust the elevation which can also skew the numbers. That is why i'm such a big fan of also displaying uncorrected numbers and the correction multiplier. Very high CF numbers should be looked at carefully just my 2 cents.
01-22-2008, 06:21 PM
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Vadim,
My apologies for wasting your morning. I thought my time was scheduled for when the shop was finished with its already scheduled appointments. I didnt know that schedules were rearranged. Like I told you shortly after the time was pushed to 2, that time would push me past my obligations I had.
I hope you can understand my urgency at getting a dyno done before the header. I was not aware of the non repeatable numbers. It was my assumption that as long as pre and post dynos were done on the same dyno, things would be OK. I almost positive I told you on the phone that I was going to take it to a mustang dyno.
Thanks for the update on the box. It was whistling pretty good on the dyno.
Anyway, sorry again, there was no ill intention on my part, and I truely appreciate all the effort that you've done for me.
My apologies for wasting your morning. I thought my time was scheduled for when the shop was finished with its already scheduled appointments. I didnt know that schedules were rearranged. Like I told you shortly after the time was pushed to 2, that time would push me past my obligations I had.
I hope you can understand my urgency at getting a dyno done before the header. I was not aware of the non repeatable numbers. It was my assumption that as long as pre and post dynos were done on the same dyno, things would be OK. I almost positive I told you on the phone that I was going to take it to a mustang dyno.
Thanks for the update on the box. It was whistling pretty good on the dyno.
Anyway, sorry again, there was no ill intention on my part, and I truely appreciate all the effort that you've done for me.
I will call you when new box comes in.
01-22-2008, 07:41 PM
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Ok..so with that said, either of them can clearly be changed to suit a certain customer (wants a high HP number) but if the accuracy of a mustang is superior since it takes into consideration the true weight of the car then I would much rather have the true HP number, even if its lower. I'm so sick of hearing "ohhh..mustangs...they read lower then actual". All it means is that most people don't want to hear the truth and would rather have smoke blown up their ***.
Just because you CAN change values doesn't mean they should be changed to suit the customer.
I'll be getting a Mustang MD-600SE within the next 30-45 days for my business. Even if people don't want to hear what their cars make its still what they made.
dkm
Just because you CAN change values doesn't mean they should be changed to suit the customer.
I'll be getting a Mustang MD-600SE within the next 30-45 days for my business. Even if people don't want to hear what their cars make its still what they made.
dkm
The thing about the mustang dyno's that I don't like is that it lets the dyno operator change certain values in the software. You can change the drum weight to higher number and low and behold you get higher rwhp numbers and you can also change the dynojet corrected numbers from 10% to 20% which is what they are doing in some cases to make the Mustang numbers look better. By allowing the operator to change these values your results can vary quite a bit.
They both (Mustang and Dynojet) let the operator adjust the elevation which can also skew the numbers. That is why i'm such a big fan of also displaying uncorrected numbers and the correction multiplier. Very high CF numbers should be looked at carefully just my 2 cents.
They both (Mustang and Dynojet) let the operator adjust the elevation which can also skew the numbers. That is why i'm such a big fan of also displaying uncorrected numbers and the correction multiplier. Very high CF numbers should be looked at carefully just my 2 cents.
01-22-2008, 07:57 PM
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Ok..so with that said, either of them can clearly be changed to suit a certain customer (wants a high HP number) but if the accuracy of a mustang is superior since it takes into consideration the true weight of the car then I would much rather have the true HP number, even if its lower. I'm so sick of hearing "ohhh..mustangs...they read lower then actual". All it means is that most people don't want to hear the truth and would rather have smoke blown up their ***.
Just because you CAN change values doesn't mean they should be changed to suit the customer.
I'll be getting a Mustang MD-600SE within the next 30-45 days for my business. Even if people don't want to hear what their cars make its still what they made.
dkm
Just because you CAN change values doesn't mean they should be changed to suit the customer.
I'll be getting a Mustang MD-600SE within the next 30-45 days for my business. Even if people don't want to hear what their cars make its still what they made.
dkm
Second, you have answered your own questions with regard to Mustang Dyno. One can not compare numbers from one dyno to another since the settings are unknown.
Yes, other shops are likely to make clients happy. Yes, they want to blow smoke. This is the reality of this business.
01-22-2008, 11:31 PM
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When I do my pulley and ECU, I may very well make the drive to Costa Mesa to give VRP a visit. It sounds like you guys are very thorough and are knowledgeable about issues with tuning the ECU after a pulley swap.
01-23-2008, 12:03 AM
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if you're close, it will be well worth it I think. You will eliminate a lot of the frustration I have been through, and still going through
01-23-2008, 04:42 PM
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Vadim,
I can answer my own questions all day long, but you didnt answer my question about Mustang results not being repeatable.
It should be noted my business isn't dyno tuning or performance based. I own a chain of emission stations in Nevada. So for me to blow smoke or use my dyno for anything other then what i do for a living, isn't going to happen. Lastly, thank you for well wishes.
I'd still like to know where you get the info about runs not being repeatable.
dkm
I can answer my own questions all day long, but you didnt answer my question about Mustang results not being repeatable.
It should be noted my business isn't dyno tuning or performance based. I own a chain of emission stations in Nevada. So for me to blow smoke or use my dyno for anything other then what i do for a living, isn't going to happen. Lastly, thank you for well wishes.
I'd still like to know where you get the info about runs not being repeatable.
dkm
First off, let me wish you best of luck for your shop.
Second, you have answered your own questions with regard to Mustang Dyno. One can not compare numbers from one dyno to another since the settings are unknown.
Yes, other shops are likely to make clients happy. Yes, they want to blow smoke. This is the reality of this business.
Second, you have answered your own questions with regard to Mustang Dyno. One can not compare numbers from one dyno to another since the settings are unknown.
Yes, other shops are likely to make clients happy. Yes, they want to blow smoke. This is the reality of this business.
01-23-2008, 04:54 PM
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I'd still like to know where you get the info about runs not being repeatable.
