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Old 02-03-2008, 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by SleeperX
oh.. I think weight plays a huge factor at those speeds..
Definately...our S65 guy was very upset even after chip tuning cause M5/M6 beat him, he paid over 300k for it...and then he went crazy when his rear axle said bye bye and car was at the dealer wating for replacement for almost 2 months...
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The results of the rematch are in:

Originally Posted by gripforce-cl65
Evotech CL65 vs Evosport M6 runs-2nd Round!!
We had total of 5 runs last night. And the results proved that the evotech was right about the CL was fuel starving in the 1st round match. When I improve my launching technique and change out the worn tires to hoosier R6, I'm sure the result will be very different. Enjoy the video~

1st run: 40-160mph roll, both cars in 2nd gear. M6 jumped first and the CL was spinning bad. In fact this was the worst run of the night for the CL.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOXEMm9r6Fg


2nd run: 20-165mph roll, both cars in 1st gear. Both cars took off at the same time but again the CL was fighting for traction.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5BAlfXSrIg


3rd run: 50-150mph roll, both cars in 2nd gear. Both cars took off at the same same time and CL hooked up better than the 1st run (still had wheel spin).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzXbw7aTebE


4th run: 15-130mph roll, both cars in 1st gear. IMO, this was the best run of the night, Although M6 jumped slightly first the CL hooked up well.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVtjsdWUneA


After the run my friend finally showed the respect to CL On the way home, the freeway was unusually empty so we had one last blast from around 70mph. I couldn't capture this run on the video but the CL was pulling about 1 car length in every 10mph. By the time we were at 150mph, I had about 8-10 car lengths.

I will report again when the car gets dynoed.

Have fun & safe weekend and GO GIANTS!!!!
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Originally Posted by Addicted2Speed
The results of the rematch are in:
After watching the first video of the CL65 vs. M6 and the M5 ASR video, I was just about to go out and buy an M car.. Oh well...
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Originally Posted by Addicted2Speed
The results of the rematch are in:
Nice runs..soem may be our S65 is not perfectly tunned as well...each car is diff...
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Originally Posted by MIG-E55Rocket
We will see about that when I am done with the 65, the M6 will be lucky if it sees my quads...


The 65 is Evotech's...I wonder why adam hasn't chimed in...I think they were the ones to put the tune.

Found the thread last night. It seems the owner is satisfied but doesn't seem that way from the camera...

https://mbworld.org/forums/cl55-amg-cl65-amg-cl63-amg-c215-c216/228664-cl65-evotech-ecu-tcu-upgrade-experience.html
I am just curious as the new results are vastly different. Did the owner listen to all the advice/ gain experiance or did the car get a retune

has this owner dynoed his car?!? before after?

P.S Russ how many of your friends Evotech MBs have had problems?( as i recall you mentioned a few blow transmmition or somthing

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Originally Posted by Zod
I am just curious as the new results are vastly different. Did the owner listen to all the advice/ gain experiance or did the car get a retune

has this owner dynoed his car?!? before after?

P.S Russ how many of your friends Evotech MBs have had problems?( as i recall you mentioned a few blow transmmition or somthing

I know 5 cars and all of them had problems at some point...

1 just blew their trans...

One blew 8th cylinder 2 times, then broken SC then, then trans...

Other one had problems with it not runing proberly, the got re-rune and runned OK but then had SC or pulley problem...lost boost...

IMHO the prob with those cars that there where probably bought in not very fresh condiftion (40-50k miles) and then got all those mods...Did thier TCUs but did not re-inforced transmission and so on...

SLR was runing good then lost boost as well...had to take to Germany to fix it...
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Originally Posted by E55 RUSS
I know 5 cars and all of them had problems at some point...

1 just blew their trans...

One blew 8th cylinder 2 times, then broken SC then, then trans...

Other one had problems with it not runing proberly, the got re-rune and runned OK but then had SC or pulley problem...lost boost...

IMHO the prob with those cars that there where probably bought in not very fresh condiftion (40-50k miles) and then got all those mods...Did thier TCUs but did not re-inforced transmission and so on...

SLR was runing good then lost boost as well...had to take to Germany to fix it...
Scary stuff....have any of the kleemann tuned cars you have over there suffered as much as the Evotech ones?
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Wow....I haven't been on here in a few days and so much is going on.....

The M6 rocks. I absolutely love it. They scream so loud and they are friggin faaaaaaaast.

I ordered Evosport pulleys and Headers for the M6 for a guy, and now hes also getting the stage 2 evosport ECU, as well as BMC filters and RPI scoops. Those evosport longtube headers are so beautiful. Should be an amazing project.
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She's getting long in the tooth @50k miles. Cutting into her now wouldn't be worth it, but maybe it would. It's still up in the air for me. I really have my eyes set on a white on red M6, it would be an awesome companion car for what Sunny has in store.

Let's just say it's different, and its friggin BEAUTIFUL,
Haha....yea, I got something up my sleeve fellas. Some of you will probably be like huh? because it's not that fast, but it's just sooooo beautiful. Unreal my brothers, UNREAL......
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Haha....yea, I got something up my sleeve fellas. Some of you will probably be like huh? because it's not that fast, but it's just sooooo beautiful. Unreal my brothers, UNREAL......
More pictures of the Obama girl?
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More pictures of the Obama girl?
LOL, I'd be more than happy with some pics of Amber Lee as well...the secret spyshot cell phone pics ...
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LOL, I'd be more than happy with some pics of Amber Lee as well...the secret spyshot cell phone pics ...
Shhhh, those are top secret.

Somebody told me she was on Howard Stern and she rode the Sybian....go find vids!
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Shhhh, those are top secret.

Somebody told me she was on Howard Stern and she rode the Sybian....go find vids!
Ugh!! I can't pull that up at work. Now I have to leave early so that I can go home to find these videos..
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Our set-up in a 3000lbs car would be pretty hard to beat imho.
Thats why I wanted to put an E55K into a W208 but NOOOOOOOOO, its too much work they said


A car with a 150 shot of nitrous running mid 11's? I guess I'm the only one thats not imressed
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Thats why I wanted to put an E55K into a W208 but NOOOOOOOOO, its too much work they said


A car with a 150 shot of nitrous running mid 11's? I guess I'm the only one thats not imressed

IMO, if you want to run 10's without nitrous in an AMG, your only realistic option is tuned SL65. I predict the prices of SL65's to be far below 100k once the new body comes out and this will be a very realistic option. You'd be well into 10's with VRP's 1,000hp kit...
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Originally Posted by Addicted2Speed
IMO, if you want to run 10's without nitrous in an AMG, your only realistic option is tuned SL65. I predict the prices of SL65's to be far below 100k once the new body comes out and this will be a very realistic option. You'd be well into 10's with VRP's 1,000hp kit...
Wrong. If Jason can do it in his CL600 without nitrous why couldnt a CL65?

And I truely believe that if someone ran meth injection and raised the boost on a E55 (with proper tune) it would get into the tens without nitrous.
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I'm the one who ran against the evosport modded M6 in the video. As you can see, the video speaks more than thousand words. I had a chance to talk to one of the forum member here and he wanted to how his modded M6 run against my CL. No confirmed date yet, but the run will be held in So. Cal very soon so stay tuned~
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Originally Posted by gripforce-cl65
I'm the one who ran against the evosport modded M6 in the video. As you can see, the video speaks more than thousand words. I had a chance to talk to one of the forum member here and he wanted to how his modded M6 run against my CL. No confirmed date yet, but the run will be held in So. Cal very soon so stay tuned~

yes stay tuned....

I am sure I will lose but I just need perspective on where my M6 lies with its minor mods (filters, pulley) ... and to see where my old 65 sits since it had about the same hp as Gregorys. Good tallking to you yesterday Gregory.
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Originally Posted by Vic55
yes stay tuned....

I am sure I will lose but I just need perspective on where my M6 lies with its minor mods (filters, pulley) ... and to see where my old 65 sits since it had about the same hp as Gregorys. Good tallking to you yesterday Gregory.
It was nice talking to you too. And once your 997TT breaks in, let's do my viper (478whp) vs your 997TT. My viper pulls about 1/2 car against stock Z06 so it should be a close race. Let's keep in touch and have fun at the brabus event.

Viper (478whp) vs stock Z06 race
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWclejVs6is

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Scary stuff....have any of the kleemann tuned cars you have over there suffered as much as the Evotech ones?
Not that I know off...Kleemann only had porblems with SLR Coolers...it kept blowing off and bleeding but its fixed now...as well as all Evotech cars...

I think it Evotech dealers fault cause he buys old car tunes then and sell at good price...then people starting to have problems...
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Originally Posted by Vic55
yes stay tuned....

I am sure I will lose but I just need perspective on where my M6 lies with its minor mods (filters, pulley) ... and to see where my old 65 sits since it had about the same hp as Gregorys. Good tallking to you yesterday Gregory.

Vic...I love your cars...you truly enjoy your self and have a good taste


I am sure M6 with pulleys, long tube headers and ECU will run better against CL65...than in those videos...
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More pictures of the Obama girl?
Wahahaha.....LOL

Soon......very soon
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I absolutely love your whips!
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LOL!!!

How do you spell CARNAGE!!! Poor poor Avery!!


Modded M5 Modded E55 at 150+

Modded M5 Modded 65 USA



Russ,you guys have got to get your AMG's straightened out over there in Eastern Europe and REPRESENT!!!!


They don't get murdered over here!


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