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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 02:09 PM
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E55 Virgin... What is the best food to feed this beast?

Talking about gas. What brand/octane do you use? Have you tried and compared various pumps? Chevron, 76, Tesoro, Shell, etc....

Just got my beast and i want to make sure i keep him to a clean healthy nutritional diet. Thanks in advance!
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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 02:12 PM
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93/91 octane is a must.

Never heard bad things about Sunoco.

Few have tried Sunoco 104 but we have found that mostly it does not help and that ECU can't hang with that much octane.
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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 02:27 PM
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Too bad for us in Hawaii! We have no Sunoco. Only Tesoro, Shell, Chevron, & 76. Then of course Costco gas which is from a local reseller called Aloha Gas.
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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by dpavid
Too bad for us in Hawaii! We have no Sunoco. Only Tesoro, Shell, Chevron, & 76. Then of course Costco gas which is from a local reseller called Aloha Gas.
David,

I've tried investigating the legitimacy of this site and so far have not been able to prove it's a hoax. Some of the language they use on there from a technical standpoint makes sense, so whenever possible, I try to use these stations. I use shell 99% of the time.

http://www.toptiergas.com/retailers.html

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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 03:06 PM
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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 05:05 PM
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E55 virgin? My Beast likes to be fed regular virgin sacrifices in the back seat.
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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 05:10 PM
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Take that back right now

Back on topic, all the major sellers are close enough and it's fairly obvious that buy 93 if it's there and 91 if it's not. I'll knight whoever makes 93 available to the L.A. masses.
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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 05:13 PM
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I'd hate to pay for premium in hawaii. My friend in maui pays 4.16 a gallon, but it's probably cheaper on oahu. Don't get busted speeding on the H3.
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David,

I've tried investigating the legitimacy of this site and so far have not been able to prove it's a hoax. Some of the language they use on there from a technical standpoint makes sense, so whenever possible, I try to use these stations. I use shell 99% of the time.

http://www.toptiergas.com/retailers.html

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I'm surprised/shocked that they don't have Mobil on that list!!!
i've been only using Mobil gas since i don't like mixing gas....
i guess i will stop using them if that website is accurate about the list
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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 08:52 PM
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Is there by any chance the gas listed on the link sorted in a certain way? Best to worst or worst to best within the top tier itself?

I used to use Chevron all the time.... but recently switched to 76 as some members suggest. Non-brainer for me.... around here 76 is cheaper
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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 08:59 PM
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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 11:29 PM
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Old Feb 28, 2008 | 12:16 AM
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You guys have got it bad in CA with your low octane raitings. I pray the rest of the western world does not follow your lead on that one. I have posted before about this but here in Australia all major service centres have at least 98 premium. Its about 10 cents a litre more expensive than standard low octane ethonol enriro mixes.

Major garages here have the following High Octane fuels:
Shell - Optimax98 /Helix98. Shell Racing 100 RON
Mobile - Synergy 8000. 98 RON
Caltex - Vortex 98
BP- Ultimate 98

I filled up with Shell Racing 100 RON today. If I was somewhere where I was on empty and had no choice but to fill up with 96RON I would put $5 bucks worth in the tank to get me to a garage with a better fuel. I consider 96 RON or less in my tank a contaminant!

Question. If you guys with ECU tuneups tuned then with a low octane fuel in the tank, the car would in theory run at its best with that particular fuel wouldn't it?
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Old Feb 28, 2008 | 12:21 AM
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Yeah yeah.... but we could buy an SLR here for the price of brand new E55 there (OK may be not that extreme.... ).

Or... the price difference could give us enough money to buy race fuel for live (105+ ).
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Old Feb 28, 2008 | 12:33 AM
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Originally Posted by zoink
Yeah yeah.... but we could buy an SLR here for the price of brand new E55 there (OK may be not that extreme.... ).

Or... the price difference could give us enough money to buy race fuel for live (105+ ).
Yeah we got gyped there. They don't even make a right hand drive SLR. Pissed!
With the fuel issue I didnt think it was a dollars thing. Its more an environmental Al Gore thing... isnt it?
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Old Feb 28, 2008 | 10:53 AM
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Chargin55,

You guys in OZ use the RON rating for octane, and we use the average of MON and RON. Essentially, our 93 octane rating is the same as your 98 octane rating.

Common misperception, we aren't hurting that bad

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Old Feb 28, 2008 | 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by AMG Rider
I'm surprised/shocked that they don't have Mobil on that list!!!
i've been only using Mobil gas since i don't like mixing gas....
i guess i will stop using them if that website is accurate about the list
Yes, for some reason Mobile is not on the list. I posted this before, but nobody knew why
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Old Feb 28, 2008 | 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by zoink
Is there by any chance the gas listed on the link sorted in a certain way? Best to worst or worst to best within the top tier itself?

I used to use Chevron all the time.... but recently switched to 76 as some members suggest. Non-brainer for me.... around here 76 is cheaper
A local MB mechanic told me that Mercedes instructs them to use concentrated dosages of Techron when fixing cars with clogged intake valves and fuel injectors, etc.....

So needless to say, I use only Chevron with Techron most of the online "gas gurus" believe it has the highest quality additives.

If it's not available, I use Shell.
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Old Feb 28, 2008 | 02:20 PM
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Yes, for some reason Mobile is not on the list. I posted this before, but nobody knew why
The site doesn't seem legit, as it just lists a few providers and not all the reputable ones.

Mobil products are trusted by Mercedes-McLaren for their Formula 1 cars... so, I ask again: why not Mobil? (see pics of MP4-21, 22 and 23 below)

BTW, there are some brands on that list that i have never heard of...
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Originally Posted by shahedC
The site doesn't seem legit, as it just lists a few providers and not all the reputable ones.

Mobil products are trusted by Mercedes-McLaren for their Formula 1 cars... so, I ask again: why not Mobil? (see pics of MP4-21, 22 and 23 below)

BTW, there are some brands on that list that i have never heard of...
I have called BS on top tier from the first time I saw it.
4 web pages and no contact information is all I need.
All they can do is quote from existing classification societies.
You are right Mobil is a respected fuel and I would have no problem running it.
No brag but I have responsibility for many different gasoline powered vehicles, boats, bikes, ATVs & Gen sets, and have tried many fuels over the years. I have found that some of the lesser used "toys" would need fuel system cleaned on a annual basis, most showing large amounts of gum and varnish. This occurs from fuel evaporating and fuel becoming stale, the solids in the fuel clump together and clog the fuel system. In most cases the idle circuit would clog first in the carburated machines. Then one day I tried BP ultimate 93 the (clear) fuel in the "fleet" and have not had one issue with clogged fuel systems since and that has been 4+ years.
Dose this make it the best? no, It only makes it the cleanest, and may not require any detergent additives. As you can see Top Tier is all about more detergent in the fuel, and nothing wrong with that, I just prefer the fuel that dose not need it.

Yes Techron works very very well and I'll stand by it's claims, I have used gallons of it in the years past, but I don't need it any more.
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Originally Posted by Marcus Frost
Chargin55,

You guys in OZ use the RON rating for octane, and we use the average of MON and RON. Essentially, our 93 octane rating is the same as your 98 octane rating.

Common misperception, we aren't hurting that bad

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Thanks Marcus
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Old Feb 29, 2008 | 04:59 AM
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Top tier gas is not a hoax (you will see this web=page listed in all BMW manuals), however, not all the top tier gas providers are eactly the same, becasue they all pledge to add additives (such as Techron) to the gasoline after they acquire it in it's stock form from the refiners. I always try to use top tier brands, as it certainly cannot hurt the engine to have a constant supply of cleaning solvents. The key difference is not felt in one fill up here and there, but in the consistent usage of the product over the life of the car.
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Old Feb 29, 2008 | 10:17 AM
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Old Mar 2, 2008 | 11:50 PM
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just flew in from honolulu and i already miss the 80* weather...go down likelike hwy and open up the TB then head out to downtown honolulu and chill out at Rock Za or Club Feme-nu.......thats what i would call a perfect day....
STAY AWAY FROM ALOHA GAS
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Old Mar 3, 2008 | 04:43 AM
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Sounds like you were "indoors" more than outdoors.
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