W211 AMG Discuss the W211 AMG's such as the E55 and the E63

Real E55 Specs

Old Mar 4, 2008 | 11:46 PM
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Real E55 Specs

Ok, i keep hearing different specs for the W211 E55, vsn you guys please tell me the real specs that you know to be true for a stock W211 E55?
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0-60 and
1/4 mile.

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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 07:13 AM
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You can pretty much go by MB's statements with regards to everything except BHP which is more around 500 and not 469.
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 06:23 PM
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Can you plz post a link or something to MB's statements? I cant find any info about the E55 on their site, its all about the 63 now.
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by W211 BEAST
Ok, i keep hearing different specs for the W211 E55, vsn you guys please tell me the real specs that you know to be true for a stock W211 E55?
Hp
Torque
0-60
0-60 and
1/4 mile.

Thanks
Mercedes Numbers:
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Net power: 469 hp @ 6,100 rpm
Net torque : 516 lb-ft. @ 2,650 - 4,500 rpm
0-60: 4.5 seconds
1/4 Mile (Mercedes didn't publish 1/4 mile times, but magazine numbers average to 12.5).

Actual Numbers:
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Net power: 500 hp @ 6,100 rpm
Net torque : 516 lb-ft. @ 2,650 - 4,500 rpm
0-60: 4.2 seconds
1/4 Mile: 12.2 to 12.3 average (they range from 11.7 to 12.8 stock)

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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 07:05 PM
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Thanks foor the post. I kept reading 4.5 but I knew that it felt faster than that.

Anyone else agree with me that the R8 is nothing more than an overpriced p*ssy magnet? (0-60 is 4.6) They're selling for over 180k right now!!! I'm sorry but I'd much rather take either a 997TT or a 997GT3RS for that price (even cheaper) And normally I love TopGear, but when they tested the R8 vs a 997 CarreraS, I was pissed. Price wise those 2 are nowhere near the same bracket. Sorry to change the thread but I found out what I wanted.
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Old Apr 27, 2008 | 09:30 PM
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BUMP- Bringing it back from the dead, but I have a Q. So the E55 has 500 HP, and they say the E63 has 507, even though it really has 516, and the E55 has a lot more torque. Why do those 16 extra horses make that much of a difference from a roll? What other factors are involved? Thanks
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Old Apr 27, 2008 | 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by W211 BEAST
BUMP- Bringing it back from the dead, but I have a Q. So the E55 has 500 HP, and they say the E63 has 507, even though it really has 516, and the E55 has a lot more torque. Why do those 16 extra horses make that much of a difference from a roll? What other factors are involved? Thanks
The E63 is rated at 507 hp (U.S. version) and 514 hp (Euro version).

On the dyno, both E55 and E63 prove that they are both 500 hp cars. Most of the dynos I've seen, the E55 produced 400 to 430 whp and same numbers go for the E63.

The extra torque doesn't only help from a roll, but actually helps from any speed: from 0 mph, from 40 mph, from 60 mph, etc.... From zero mph (and from lower speeds in general), the E55 will always jump on the E63 in a powerful display of torque (given it doesn't lose too much traction of course), but as the E63 climbs up the RPM power band to it's favorite zone, it starts closing the distance Also, the 7-speed provides slightly better gearing for the 63.

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Old Apr 28, 2008 | 02:05 AM
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Originally Posted by W211 BEAST
BUMP- Bringing it back from the dead, but I have a Q. So the E55 has 500 HP, and they say the E63 has 507, even though it really has 516, and the E55 has a lot more torque. Why do those 16 extra horses make that much of a difference from a roll? What other factors are involved? Thanks
I agree with MB's reply. My stock dynos on both E55s AND both motors on this one were all between 410 and 420 to the floor, depending on shop and day. Oddly enough, I saw the first two E63 dyno runs that were in SD and they both had the E63 at sub 400hp. Then, that became somewhat of an anomoly as the 63 guys started to generate lots of data. I don't know if the filters (charcoal) made that big of a difference or if there was a break in lag, but it was odd.

The other factor involved is marketing. When the E55 (W211) was launched,
MB had to justify charging the premium for the $150 - $200K 55s so they simply used power ratings to make sure the top was the top. Rumors flew early on and I personally think the E55 is what brought AMG into the mainstream. It was the first offering from them that blew the then current M5 away and apealled to a more hardcore enthusiast. It also dropped the bar for 500hp to $100K in the luxury class.
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Old Apr 28, 2008 | 04:07 AM
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Maybe I missed the answer cause I'm tired and a little drunk... But what helps the 63 beat the 55 from a roll? Is it just that it does better at higher RPMs?
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Old Apr 28, 2008 | 04:08 AM
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I'm really sory to continue to beat this dead horse, But I have been extremely curious for quite some time now... I just didnt want to seem like an idiot. Lol
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Old Apr 28, 2008 | 04:23 AM
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Yes the motor gets stronger as it gets higher up in the RPM range. Its like the M5 motor, it comes alive after like 4K rpms and pulls like a freight train all the way to redline.

Also remember the 7 speed tranny that is in the E63 also helps with the rolling times as it shifts faster and has a wider range of gears to chose from.
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Old Apr 28, 2008 | 10:22 AM
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The same math that gets 420 whp to 500 flywheel also suggests 550ish torque
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Old May 27, 2008 | 06:28 PM
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I konw this is a lil off-topic, but anyone konw the true specs of the 06 CLK55? On google i searched and it said 369, but dosent the CLK55 have the SAME engine as the e55? Why are the #'s so diffrent?
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Old May 27, 2008 | 06:35 PM
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I konw this is a lil off-topic, but anyone konw the true specs of the 06 CLK55? On google i searched and it said 369, but dosent the CLK55 have the SAME engine as the e55? Why are the #'s so diffrent?
No not the same engine, the E55 is supercharged.
CLK55 is NA.
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Old May 27, 2008 | 06:49 PM
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No not the same engine, the E55 is supercharged.
CLK55 is NA.

Ohhhh.....wait, then whats the diffrence between the CLK55 and the CLK550? Just AMG brakes and waht not?
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Old May 27, 2008 | 07:01 PM
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While we're on the E55 numbers... anyone care to post Mercedes vs. Actual for the W210 E55's?
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Old May 27, 2008 | 07:08 PM
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Ohhhh.....wait, then whats the diffrence between the CLK55 and the CLK550? Just AMG brakes and waht not?
The CLK550 has a new V8 engine based on an entirely new family of engines.
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Old May 27, 2008 | 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Yacht Master
No not the same engine, the E55 is supercharged.
CLK55 is NA.
I'm thinking he meant the W210 E55 not the W211

Amiricanmade, the 550 is a new Mercedes engine and is different than the CLK55 engine.
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Old May 27, 2008 | 07:24 PM
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Old May 27, 2008 | 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by MB_Forever
Amiricanmade, the 550 is a new Mercedes engine and is different than the CLK55 engine.
Yep, totally different engines, different internals... non-AMG vs. AMG pieces too.
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Old May 27, 2008 | 08:27 PM
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Cool, thank you guys for the info and sorry about the thread jack
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Old May 28, 2008 | 03:10 AM
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We're not sure what happened in this video, but at the track, the E63 always pulled on the E55 in the last 1/8th of a mile.
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Old May 28, 2008 | 04:25 AM
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The 55 might not be stock?
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Old May 28, 2008 | 04:55 PM
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1st video....driver error!

2nd video....12.4 was the quickest time

I ran 12.2 with bad traction, it will take a 11.9x by a 63 to beat me if I can get it to hook up!

You know what would be a good race in a battle of E55 VS E63 is myself vs oldgixxer, or plug in enzom

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