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as long as the east coast is okay with letting their record be destroyed, I'm okay with it
My 12.24 was with me driving by the way 
No, but seriously...... as much as I want him to come, he's been telling me he won't be able to make it. Believe it or not his 60' times are not great. On every run, he ranged from 1.93 to 2.05 60' time
However, the person I wish can come is Shawn. He has great feel for any car. He is about 190 to 200 lbs, but he is the most consistent 60' time driver I've ever seen. He pulls 1.60 to 1.70 consistently in his E55 w/drag radials even on sh*ty track preps. Also, he ran my car 3 times on two different tracks (and he had never driven an E63 before by the way) yet on all 3 runs, he was able to go sub 1.9 60' time (to be exact, he pulled a 1.88, 1.87, and 1.88). At ATCO, I'm very confident he'll be able to complete the shock with a 1.75 60' time
, actually my fastest run 12.24 run was
If Shawn doesn't make it I could always make a few passes in your carOriginally Posted by MB_Forever
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as long as the east coast is okay with letting their record be destroyed, I'm okay with it
My 12.24 was with me driving by the way 
No, but seriously...... as much as I want him to come, he's been telling me he won't be able to make it. Believe it or not his 60' times are not great. On every run, he ranged from 1.93 to 2.05 60' time

However, the person I wish can come is Shawn. He has great feel for any car. He is about 190 to 200 lbs, but he is the most consistent 60' time driver I've ever seen. He pulls 1.60 to 1.70 consistently in his E55 w/drag radials even on sh*ty track preps. Also, he ran my car 3 times on two different tracks (and he had never driven an E63 before by the way) yet on all 3 runs, he was able to go sub 1.9 60' time (to be exact, he pulled a 1.88, 1.87, and 1.88). At ATCO, I'm very confident he'll be able to complete the shock with a 1.75 60' time
, actually my fastest run 12.24 run was
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You definately have to make a few runs in my car..... Originally Posted by oldgixxer
If Shawn doesn't make it I could always make a few passes in your car
....Just don't tell 05Venom
Oh and don't worry, I won't mention it to VENOM
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and if you can't bring him, i'll ***** out my services. i can make the 150lbs weight class...if you put 10lbs of lead in my pants! Originally Posted by oldgixxer
Yeah,but thats only if you bring your "150lb driver" with you

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and if you can't bring him, i'll ***** out my services. i can make the 150lbs weight class...if you put 10lbs of lead in my pants!

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Don't worry fellas, I just went on a diet...all organic for me.Originally Posted by MB_Forever
You definately have to make a few runs in my car..... Oh and don't worry, I won't mention it to VENOM
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Instead of talking about who's going to drive what, we should be talking about who's going to drive where! When and where is this going to go down. I have a very busy spring and summer coming up, but I'm not going to miss this for anything. Can we start throwing out some dates and locations?
I honestly think it should go down in the midwest somewhere, not because I live in the midwest, but because it just makes the most sense if we're trying to make things somewhat convienent for everyone. I will ship my car anywhere to see this go down, so it does not matter to me. As I mentioned before there are 4 good strips within 100 miles of Chicago. In looking at a map it appears Gateway (St.Louis), or Heartland Park (Topeka, KS) are the most central located strips, which would equalize the commute for the east and west coasters. Heartland Park is FAST FAST FAST, as is Route 66 near Chicago, look at the NHRA record books, some of the fastest et's in many classes have been set at these 2 tracks.
What do you all think?
I honestly think it should go down in the midwest somewhere, not because I live in the midwest, but because it just makes the most sense if we're trying to make things somewhat convienent for everyone. I will ship my car anywhere to see this go down, so it does not matter to me. As I mentioned before there are 4 good strips within 100 miles of Chicago. In looking at a map it appears Gateway (St.Louis), or Heartland Park (Topeka, KS) are the most central located strips, which would equalize the commute for the east and west coasters. Heartland Park is FAST FAST FAST, as is Route 66 near Chicago, look at the NHRA record books, some of the fastest et's in many classes have been set at these 2 tracks.
What do you all think?
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Where do I sign up? I'm another mid-westerner that is going to put the east vs. west thing to rest. I'm going to go out on a limb and say MID WEST IS BEST! I don't think either coast has a shot, not in the modded class anyway. There are some fast MB's in these parts. I'll have both my CLS and Black Series ready for this fight! I'll even have my 220 pound butt doing the driving, no need for any jockeys here! I may even invest in some slicks for the CLS, which should put me into the high 10's, just as an insurance policy.

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I agree with jrcart, I need to know as soon as a date is agreed upon(and a place). My schedule is pre-booked 6 months in advance so the sooner i know the easier I can reschedule. It also depends on the day, some days for me are better than others. Let's move on this!!
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for me, it makes no difference between shipping my car 1500 miles or 2000 miles...but if i'm going to ship it, it better be to one of the fastest tracks in the country during perfect weather conditions. i can run low 11's anywhere...i want a 10 second slip and to me this means mir or atco. no offense to the midwesterners but i don't recall anyone consistently talking about regular cars setting any records on those tracks like they do the others mentioned.
i do agree on getting some dates thrown out early so we can start planning.
i do agree on getting some dates thrown out early so we can start planning.
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You know I am more then ready to host this event at MIR. Your window for cool weather and low humidity runs is going to close soon, so if you guys really want to pull this off please lets get organized. 

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Who would be interested in a Mercedes Benz USA meet Either at ATCO or MIR or another incredible track located at SEA LEVEL and able to have 50 degree weather???
I know this is early but the sooner we start discussing the cooler this event will be all input and ideas discussed here. I know there are many Western based Benz owners that have never experienced "good" track conditions and would love a crack at the best Eastern based cars, same track same day, lotsa fun. Since this will require planning and cost a bit of coin I thought it necessary to begin the thread now.
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I'd be down for Atco JoshOriginally Posted by juicee63


Who would be interested in a Mercedes Benz USA meet Either at ATCO or MIR or another incredible track located at SEA LEVEL and able to have 50 degree weather???
I know this is early but the sooner we start discussing the cooler this event will be all input and ideas discussed here. I know there are many Western based Benz owners that have never experienced "good" track conditions and would love a crack at the best Eastern based cars, same track same day, lotsa fun. Since this will require planning and cost a bit of coin I thought it necessary to begin the thread now.
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YES!Originally Posted by E55JAY
You know I am more then ready to host this event at MIR. Your window for cool weather and low humidity runs is going to close soon, so if you guys really want to pull this off please lets get organized.
I was actually thinking November 08
I dont think we can get it organized fast enough to make it in March or April.
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I would say anytime in late october early november is good.The cool weather is here by that time.I would say MIR would tend to be warmer then Atco being it's down south a ways.
The weather is too unpredictable over here in march/april and it could easily snow
The weather is too unpredictable over here in march/april and it could easily snow
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60 one day and snow the next, its gotten to weird latelyOriginally Posted by oldgixxer
The weather is too unpredictable over here in march/april and it could easily snow
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I am down for wherever, Atco's less then 3hrs for meOriginally Posted by oldgixxer
I would say anytime in late october early november is good.The cool weather is here by that time.I would say MIR would tend to be warmer then Atco being it's down south a ways.
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i do agree on getting some dates thrown out early so we can start planning.
I'm not trying to start anything, but I have to go on record? I think you need to check your facts on 1/4 mile ET records. Go to the NHRA website and check out the records for ALL of the classes, not just top fuel and funnycar. I would say about 35%-40% of the current records are at 3 tracks, Indianapolis (IRP), Joliet, IL (Rt 66) and Madison, IL (St.Louis/Gateway), all mid-west tracks. Originally Posted by chiromikey
i want a 10 second slip and to me this means mir or atco. no offense to the midwesterners but i don't recall anyone consistently talking about regular cars setting any records on those tracks like they do the others mentioned.i do agree on getting some dates thrown out early so we can start planning.
I don't care where we do this, but if you are looking for fast times, especially in the fall months, you are not going to find faster tracks than these.
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As of right now we've got myself, JRCART and ENDSMTG committed to representing the mid-west. Obviously all of us are going to be running in the modified class. Still recruiting some soldiers to run you guys in the stock class.
Have we decided about when and where? JRCART was correct in his previous post, lots of records set and still standing at mid-west tracks, not sure where that other guy is getting his facts about midwest tracks not being fast. I've been drag racing for 22 years and have raced on more than 30 dragstrips throughout North America, I know where the fast ones are. I'll drive west, I'll drive east and I'll drive south to be a part of this event, I just need some notice to pull it all together.
Have we decided about when and where? JRCART was correct in his previous post, lots of records set and still standing at mid-west tracks, not sure where that other guy is getting his facts about midwest tracks not being fast. I've been drag racing for 22 years and have raced on more than 30 dragstrips throughout North America, I know where the fast ones are. I'll drive west, I'll drive east and I'll drive south to be a part of this event, I just need some notice to pull it all together.
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I don't care where we do this, but if you are looking for fast times, especially in the fall months, you are not going to find faster tracks than these.
there's really no point in arguing this...but it will. Originally Posted by jrcart
I'm not trying to start anything, but I have to go on record? I think you need to check your facts on 1/4 mile ET records. Go to the NHRA website and check out the records for ALL of the classes, not just top fuel and funnycar. I would say about 35%-40% of the current records are at 3 tracks, Indianapolis (IRP), Joliet, IL (Rt 66) and Madison, IL (St.Louis/Gateway), all mid-west tracks. I don't care where we do this, but if you are looking for fast times, especially in the fall months, you are not going to find faster tracks than these.
without checking my facts i know atco represents the quickest track in the country.so you tell me you're not trying to start anything, then you tell me to check my facts, and you follow that up with your made up stat of 35-40%! c'mon bud that's a bit hypocritical don't you think?

anyways, for sh*ts-n-giggles i checked some facts and you're right about midwest tracks holding several records, just over 11% if we want to be truthful. however, atco by itself still holds close to twice as many records as all 3 of those tracks combined.

http://www.nhra.com/stats/natrecord.html
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i'm not sure i ever said midwest tracks weren't fast...but they're definitely not as fast as atco consistently is. regardless, in my previous post i've provided a link the those facts you midwest guys keep questioning.Originally Posted by 573WHPCLS
...not sure where that other guy is getting his facts about midwest tracks not being fast. I've been drag racing for 22 years and have raced on more than 30 dragstrips throughout North America, I know where the fast ones are...
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without checking my facts i know atco represents the quickest track in the country.
so you tell me you're not trying to start anything, then you tell me to check my facts, and you follow that up with your made up stat of 35-40%! c'mon bud that's a bit hypocritical don't you think?
anyways, for sh*ts-n-giggles i checked some facts and you're right about midwest tracks holding several records, just over 11% if we want to be truthful. however, atco by itself still holds close to twice as many records as all 3 of those tracks combined.
http://www.nhra.com/stats/natrecord.html
If they waited for a cold front and ran at gainesville it would put all records out of reach.Originally Posted by chiromikey
there's really no point in arguing this...but it will.
without checking my facts i know atco represents the quickest track in the country.so you tell me you're not trying to start anything, then you tell me to check my facts, and you follow that up with your made up stat of 35-40%! c'mon bud that's a bit hypocritical don't you think?

anyways, for sh*ts-n-giggles i checked some facts and you're right about midwest tracks holding several records, just over 11% if we want to be truthful. however, atco by itself still holds close to twice as many records as all 3 of those tracks combined.

http://www.nhra.com/stats/natrecord.html

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If they waited for a cold front and ran at gainesville it would put all records out of reach.

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Is it ever cold in Gainesville?Originally Posted by rflow306
If they waited for a cold front and ran at gainesville it would put all records out of reach.
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Atco is legendary for being on of the fastest(if not least known)tracks in the country amongst hardcore racers,but not the most popular like Gainesville,Englishtown,MIR,Rockingham,Indy,etc
The owner recentley brought the track up to NHRA standards,as he refused to put the money into it in the past by his own decision.Most of the non-NHRA tracks aren't really known to the mainstream as they're mostly sub-par.This was/is not the case with Atco.It's been there for over 30yrs(I've personally been racing there since 1987) and the owner is a cheapskate even though it's known to be the fastest track in the USA.
The air is always good,I was told many years ago by an old timer it has to do with the track being in the Pine Barrens&surrounded by pine trees.
There's much "nicer" tracks,but non faster.
I say Atco
The owner recentley brought the track up to NHRA standards,as he refused to put the money into it in the past by his own decision.Most of the non-NHRA tracks aren't really known to the mainstream as they're mostly sub-par.This was/is not the case with Atco.It's been there for over 30yrs(I've personally been racing there since 1987) and the owner is a cheapskate even though it's known to be the fastest track in the USA.
The air is always good,I was told many years ago by an old timer it has to do with the track being in the Pine Barrens&surrounded by pine trees.
There's much "nicer" tracks,but non faster.
I say Atco
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The owner recentley brought the track up to NHRA standards,as he refused to put the money into it in the past by his own decision.Most of the non-NHRA tracks aren't really known to the mainstream as they're mostly sub-par.This was/is not the case with Atco.It's been there for over 30yrs(I've personally been racing there since 1987) and the owner is a cheapskate even though it's known to be the fastest track in the USA.
The air is always good,I was told many years ago by an old timer it has to do with the track being in the Pine Barrens&surrounded by pine trees.
There's much "nicer" tracks,but non faster.
I say Atco
Bradenton, FL is another such track, just ask the 10.5 guys. Under the same weather conditions you will be close to a tenth faster than Morosso.Originally Posted by oldgixxer
Atco is legendary for being on of the fastest(if not least known)tracks in the country amongst hardcore racers,but not the most popular like Gainesville,Englishtown,MIR,Rockingham,Indy,etcThe owner recentley brought the track up to NHRA standards,as he refused to put the money into it in the past by his own decision.Most of the non-NHRA tracks aren't really known to the mainstream as they're mostly sub-par.This was/is not the case with Atco.It's been there for over 30yrs(I've personally been racing there since 1987) and the owner is a cheapskate even though it's known to be the fastest track in the USA.
The air is always good,I was told many years ago by an old timer it has to do with the track being in the Pine Barrens&surrounded by pine trees.
There's much "nicer" tracks,but non faster.
I say Atco
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Juciee, Great Idea!!!
How about we make it AMG vs. M!
In Chicago!!
I am in.
How about we make it AMG vs. M!
In Chicago!!
I am in.
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