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View Poll Results: Did you ECU Tune with Aftermarket(ASP) Pulley?
ASP WITH ECU Tune
16.22%
ASP withOUT Tune
24.32%
Other (aftermarket) pulley WITH Tune
35.14%
Other (aftermarket) pulley withOUT Tune
8.11%
Will eventually upgrade my stock pulley
13.51%
We don't need no stinkin' aftermarket pulley!
2.70%
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Poll: Pulley with or without ECU Tune

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Old 04-19-2008, 07:29 AM
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Kleemann K2, ecu, pulley and a pair of green filters and get your self a set of phelonic spacers.

If you want more get yourself the K3 package.
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Kleeman may be telling their clients that they have cracked the code, but lets see some evidence. WE had to throw it back to the tuners and prove it wasn't just in our imagination so now why not ask for a little data in return? Vadim@VRP generated pages and pages of datalogging and at least 10 dyno runs to get their tune cracked and tuned. I've seen the numbers (as have many of you) and I feel them everyday.
Old 04-19-2008, 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by jangy
I'd only go with a smaller pulley without a tune. If you go big, you may as well take advantage of the tune.

Regardless, the day will come when that TQ limiter is going to be in your way. Is it a feature they added to save the trannys? I think so, but I expect that. The released power is AMAZING.
I'm now believe this is true.. before it was hard to admit.. but the ASP really needs a bigger HE and Tune. Without them.. its really not as practical as a smaller pulley.

I had no issues with my Evosport C32 ODPS... and infact Code3 just released his KOMPRESSOR PULLEY (smaller than stock) that boost the performance another 20RWHP and 25RWTQ and takes like 5-10 minutes to install.

The ECU is able to adapt quickly and you feel the power down low and up top... I know since I BETA tested his pulley on my car.

I respect VRP and they way they do business. Victor and Vadim know cars.. and not just MB.

But price is my hold up.
Old 04-19-2008, 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by hamann69
My car picked up 50rwtq when I added the asp pulley to my car without ECU however I lost 20rwhp. Some of this loss might be due to heatsoak because I didnt have my larger heat exchanger on at the time. All you guys are feeling is the torque if you dont have the ECU.
This is exactly what happened to Shawn's E55 and Ken's S55 after adding the ASP pulley. Shawn's car gained 40 rwtq but lost 20 rwhp while Ken's S55 gained almost 50 rwtq but lost only 4 rwhp. Both cars were stock, and I'm not sure why they acted differently, but both cars did lose hp after adding ASP pulley without ECU
Old 04-19-2008, 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by phatmitzu
What program does LET use?
$600 is CHEAP no question about that, but I'd want to see some dyno/track proves before jumping on the wagon tho.

Don't you?

I was under the impression that LET used EvoTech tune, no?
Old 04-19-2008, 11:11 PM
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They are using their own tuning solutions now.
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Originally Posted by hamann69
My car picked up 50rwtq when I added the asp pulley to my car without ECU however I lost 20rwhp. Some of this loss might be due to heatsoak because I didnt have my larger heat exchanger on at the time. All you guys are feeling is the torque if you dont have the ECU. Im tempted to put my car on the dyno again with the h/e but its not worth the money to me, the car dosent feel any faster anyway. Once I get a ECU ill get it back on the dyno.
You gained psi at the low end, but the TQ limiter dumped fuel anytime the oversized pulley spun hard enough to push more than 12 psi. The tune that Vadim and Powerchip developed brings out the monster, with or without a larger pulley. I'll be ready to run ANY tuner's comparably equiped E55 in about a week and I am all VRP.
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Originally Posted by MB_Forever
This is exactly what happened to Shawn's E55 and Ken's S55 after adding the ASP pulley. Shawn's car gained 40 rwtq but lost 20 rwhp while Ken's S55 gained almost 50 rwtq but lost only 4 rwhp. Both cars were stock, and I'm not sure why they acted differently, but both cars did lose hp after adding ASP pulley without ECU
Sorry for the double, but it is the TQ limiter that won't ALLOW the power to get in. Maybe with added headers they would see better gains (since that would drop psi), or even a 80mmTB but you have to tune it somehow.
Old 04-21-2008, 12:13 AM
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I am going to be trying out Jerry's/LET's software on my E55. I have a VRP pulley, CPT cooling kit, and drop in K&Ns. I dyno'd my car stock, dyno'd with pulley/cooling/filters, and this week will be dyno'ing with LET software on top of it all. So far pulley/etc meant +45rwtq, +0rwhp

I am not totally sold on LET but my shop (CPT) recommended giving him a shot and I was able to meet Jerry so I want to see how it works out. If the power looks good, I will keep his software, if not I will be trying VRP. I have been talking to Victor a long time and I originally was going to use his stuff but my shop convinced me to give LET a whirl "risk free", so I obliged.

I will be posting my results this week, stay tuned.

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Old 04-21-2008, 12:23 AM
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I am defently looking foward to this.
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Dont bother with a pulley unless you do the ECU.. they go hand in hand. I would throw in a cooling upgrade while you are at it also.
Old 04-22-2008, 07:24 PM
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Did anyone get the LET ecu yet?
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Results are IN! Got the car back today... smile is hard to wipe off my face.

I will be making a new thread tomorrow with dyno's and all the info. LET has not disappointed.

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Old 04-23-2008, 10:57 AM
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Marcus - I'm glad that you like how the car turned out! I think after we sit down and talk, we will be able to safely squeeze a little more power out of that beast.

LET was using Evotech software in the past but has since upgraded to our own tuning solution that allows us to better serve our clients.

I apologize for the lack of information on the website, but we are just now starting to get data back on all the recent tuning we have done. Just in the past few weeks, we have tuned numerous cars, including E55's, C55's, C32's, SRT6's, etc. Most of them are local and all of them have noticed the gains right away.

Our goal is simple. We want to remove the mystery from tuning our cars. We don't want to hide behind our code either. It still amazes me how the Japenese car guys know exactly what amount of timing they are running at any given point and we have no clue.

We will have some dyno numbers from various cars for everyone real soon. We will also update the website with all the info soon!

Thanks!

Originally Posted by Marcus Frost
Results are IN! Got the car back today... smile is hard to wipe off my face.

I will be making a new thread tomorrow with dyno's and all the info. LET has not disappointed.

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Old 04-23-2008, 12:25 PM
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VRP Pulley + LET Software Tune

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Results are IN! Got the car back today... smile is hard to wipe off my face.

I will be making a new thread tomorrow with dyno's and all the info. LET has not disappointed.

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So, how much were the gains, I can't wait
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when are we going to see the results???
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https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/241237-stage-1-complete-let-tune-vrp-pulley-cpt-cooling-full-writeup.html

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