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Old May 1, 2008 | 09:16 AM
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Thumbs up ****VRP 675 vs Kleemann 4+ Heavy Weight Bout TRACK RESULTS!!!!****

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Roland,

I hope you got a great deal on those because Kleemann Cams = Schrick off the shelf profile cams = 7rwhp or 8rwhp.. We dyno'd them. Unless they have a new version that came out, those ones are not going to give you much more power.

On another note.. this will be great.. If you and Lee get together at the drags we'll see a head to head comparison of the Kleemann vs VRP setup.



Well, last night Lee and I both went to New England Dragway last night. You couldn't ask for a better night for dragging. The track was in great condition and the Density Altitude was perfect. I just had my CAMS installed 1 hour before I showed up at the track.

I SMASHED my personal best last night. I ran an 11.470 with a trap of 122.16 and a personal best 1.682 60'. I have included the time scan for authenticity and review. I finally have achieved my goal of breaking 11.5. BTW, they did not kick me off the track either. Just a few thumbs up and a betta not do that again or else.


RT .443
60' 1.682
1/8 7.387
MPH 95.14
1/4 MPH 122.16
1/4 ET 11.470

Based on DRAGTIMES POSTED time slips for E55's, I am now the 6th fastest E55 on record with or without NOS and the 3rd fastest ET without NOS. I am extremely pleased with my set up and I owe a lot of it to my mechanics at ELITE MOTORS right down the street from my home. Fantastic job you guys. My car set up is runing very strong and NO CEL ISSUES AT ALL. The CAMS are just right for my set up.

I would like to give a special thanks to an individual who will go nameless for helping me achieve my goal of breaking 11.5. I owe you brotha BIGTIME. You know who you are.

As far as the VRP 675, Lee's wagon had problems last night. His transmission selector was not working and couldn't get a good burnout last night, although, he did post 1.952 60' last night. If you look at the time slips, where we went HEADS UP, we were pretty close in times.

I know once Lee gets his set up straightened out, we will have another HEAVY WEIGHT BOUT. Lee is a stand up guy and a great competitor. I am in awe everytime I see his wagon go down the track. Lee's friend filmed all our runs last night, so perhaps Lee can post them up or somehow we can get them up for showing.

And for those wondering what my DYNO is currently with my set up is, the answer is I DON"T KNOW and I DON'T CARE. The TRUTH lies at the TRACK!!

Link to Dragtimes for peckin order: http://www.dragtimes.com/Mercedes-Be...ag-Racing.html
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Old May 1, 2008 | 09:27 AM
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Roland... That is a very healthy car, that's for sure!

Sounds like you guys had alot of fun.

Something is definitely wrong with Lee's car because the trap is too low... We'll have to get it sorted out and get you guys back to the track to retest.

Kleemann 1, VRP 0
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Old May 1, 2008 | 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by higginsbeach
QUOTE from VRUS:

Roland,

I hope you got a great deal on those because Kleemann Cams = Schrick off the shelf profile cams = 7rwhp or 8rwhp.. We dyno'd them. Unless they have a new version that came out, those ones are not going to give you much more power.

On another note.. this will be great.. If you and Lee get together at the drags we'll see a head to head comparison of the Kleemann vs VRP setup.



Well, last night Lee and I both went to New England Dragway last night. You couldn't ask for a better night for dragging. The track was in great condition and the Density Altitude was perfect. I just had my CAMS installed 1 hour before I showed up at the track.

I SMASHED my personal best last night. I ran an 11.470 with a trap of 122.16 and a personal best 1.682 60'. I have included the time scan for authenticity and review. I finally have achieved my goal of breaking 11.5. BTW, they did not kick me off the track either. Just a few thumbs up and a betta not do that again or else.


RT .443
60' 1.682
1/8 7.387
MPH 95.14
1/4 MPH 122.16
1/4 ET 11.470

Based on DRAGTIMES POSTED time slips for E55's, I am now the 6th fastest E55 on record with or without NOS and the 3rd fastest ET without NOS. I am extremely pleased with my set up and I owe a lot of it to my mechanics at ELITE MOTORS right down the street from my home. Fantastic job you guys. My car set up is runing very strong and NO CEL ISSUES AT ALL. The CAMS are just right for my set up.

I would like to give a special thanks to an individual who will go nameless for helping me achieve my goal of breaking 11.5. I owe you brotha BIGTIME. You know who you are.

As far as the VRP 675, Lee's wagon had problems last night. His transmission selector was not working and couldn't get a good burnout last night, although, he did post 1.952 60' last night. If you look at the time slips, where we went HEADS UP, we were pretty close in times.

I know once Lee gets his set up straightened out, we will have another HEAVY WEIGHT BOUT. Lee is a stand up guy and a great competitor. I am in awe everytime I see his wagon go down the track. Lee's friend filmed all our runs last night, so perhaps Lee can post them up or somehow we can get them up for showing.

And for those wondering what my DYNO is currently with my set up is, the answer is I DON"T KNOW and I DON'T CARE. The TRUTH lies at the TRACK!!
Congrats bro those are awesome times.

Your car is running very strong, and that is an awesome 60ft.
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Old May 1, 2008 | 09:31 AM
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Killer time!!!!! Congrats!!

Please post your launch technique. I assume you were running your BF drag radials?
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Old May 1, 2008 | 10:10 AM
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That was MY old pulley on that car and I demand equal credit for the run!!!

So much for "Kleemann cars are slower due to smaller pulley" arguement.

Way to kick tail Roland!!
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Old May 1, 2008 | 11:25 AM
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Kleemann 1, VRP 0
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Old May 1, 2008 | 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by higginsbeach
QUOTE from VRUS:

Roland,

I hope you got a great deal on those because Kleemann Cams = Schrick off the shelf profile cams = 7rwhp or 8rwhp.. We dyno'd them. Unless they have a new version that came out, those ones are not going to give you much more power.

On another note.. this will be great.. If you and Lee get together at the drags we'll see a head to head comparison of the Kleemann vs VRP setup.



Well, last night Lee and I both went to New England Dragway last night. You couldn't ask for a better night for dragging. The track was in great condition and the Density Altitude was perfect. I just had my CAMS installed 1 hour before I showed up at the track.

I SMASHED my personal best last night. I ran an 11.470 with a trap of 122.16 and a personal best 1.682 60'. I have included the time scan for authenticity and review. I finally have achieved my goal of breaking 11.5. BTW, they did not kick me off the track either. Just a few thumbs up and a betta not do that again or else.


RT .443
60' 1.682
1/8 7.387
MPH 95.14
1/4 MPH 122.16
1/4 ET 11.470

Based on DRAGTIMES POSTED time slips for E55's, I am now the 6th fastest E55 on record with or without NOS and the 3rd fastest ET without NOS. I am extremely pleased with my set up and I owe a lot of it to my mechanics at ELITE MOTORS right down the street from my home. Fantastic job you guys. My car set up is runing very strong and NO CEL ISSUES AT ALL. The CAMS are just right for my set up.

I would like to give a special thanks to an individual who will go nameless for helping me achieve my goal of breaking 11.5. I owe you brotha BIGTIME. You know who you are.

As far as the VRP 675, Lee's wagon had problems last night. His transmission selector was not working and couldn't get a good burnout last night, although, he did post 1.952 60' last night. If you look at the time slips, where we went HEADS UP, we were pretty close in times.

I know once Lee gets his set up straightened out, we will have another HEAVY WEIGHT BOUT. Lee is a stand up guy and a great competitor. I am in awe everytime I see his wagon go down the track. Lee's friend filmed all our runs last night, so perhaps Lee can post them up or somehow we can get them up for showing.

And for those wondering what my DYNO is currently with my set up is, the answer is I DON"T KNOW and I DON'T CARE. The TRUTH lies at the TRACK!!
great job bro!
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Old May 1, 2008 | 02:21 PM
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Congrats those #s are impressive That 60' is What's your method of launching it?
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Old May 1, 2008 | 02:33 PM
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That car is hauling some major 4000lb+ ****. Nice Job!
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Congrats those #s are impressive That 60' is What's your method of launching it?
+1 That 60' time is just Please discuss launch technique.....
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Old May 1, 2008 | 03:29 PM
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Congrats Rowland.

You know I'm coming after you now...
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Old May 1, 2008 | 03:42 PM
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I know the wagon supposedly is faster 0-60 stock vs. stock (mag racing) but in the quarter isnt there a weight factor that the E55 enjoys?
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Old May 1, 2008 | 03:49 PM
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I know the wagon supposedly is faster 0-60 stock vs. stock (mag racing) but in the quarter isnt there a weight factor that the E55 enjoys?
I'm not sure how much added weight the wagon has over the sedan but it's got to be a few hundred lbs. I think the 0-60 times maybe a bit quicker for the wagon because of the weight over the rears helping traction.
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Originally Posted by higginsbeach
[B]And for those wondering what my DYNO is currently with my set up is, the answer is I DON"T KNOW and I DON'T CARE. The TRUTH lies at the TRACK!!
Amen my friend

Trap speed does not lie, and GREAT runs

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Old May 1, 2008 | 05:46 PM
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To me, the wagon is funner on the street because it has the rear weight bias. Some say they like it better on road courses, too. On the 1/4, I don't think much else matters but weight to HP. If the cars are similarly moded, I'd say it comes to race prep (tires, ice, etc.) and driver.

Sounds like a blast, though.
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Old May 1, 2008 | 06:49 PM
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Congrats!! Very nice time....
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Old May 1, 2008 | 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by vrus
Roland... That is a very healthy car, that's for sure!

Sounds like you guys had alot of fun.

Something is definitely wrong with Lee's car because the trap is too low... We'll have to get it sorted out and get you guys back to the track to retest.

Kleemann 1, VRP 0
Thanks Victor for the vote of confidence. I know once you guys figure things out, I will be looking at his rear lights down the track. I can tell you though, he is dissappointed in the performance right now, so we need to get her taken care of and back to the track. I will help him out on the launches to get him down to 1.7X or so. If that happens, than I see much lower ET's, however, not sure about more trap than 122-123. We shall see on that one. Right now my set up is maxed out at 122-123 trap which is 1 mph below the legendary Alberts infamous run of 11.341.

Take care man...
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Old May 1, 2008 | 08:37 PM
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That was MY old pulley on that car and I demand equal credit for the run!!!

So much for "Kleemann cars are slower due to smaller pulley" arguement.

Way to kick tail Roland!!
Jim,

How did I ever forget to give you credit. There is no way I would have run an 11.470 without that old, rickety, bent, rusted ole Kleemann pulley you sold me.

Thanks bro and good luck with the emmissions.......
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Congrats Rowland.

You know I'm coming after you now...
You betta mate, there are a lot of people that are counting on you. I'm just a friggin hick farma from Maine with a straw hat and lobsta traps who uses mechanics with pitch forks that pieced together my beast with a bunch of USED PARTS and super glue.

Now get that BEAST fixed and get'er out again.
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Very nice run!!! I agree, who cares what it dyno's, the ultimate dyno is the track! Did you take it to the track before the cams too? I almost bought those
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Congrats on being the 6th fastest E55 with the 3rd fastest ET on record.
Having just installed your cams 1 hour before you showed up at the track is crazy. You probably made a faster ET when you raced to get to the track. lol
Do you have the stock LSD?
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Originally Posted by higginsbeach
Well, last night Lee and I both went to New England Dragway last night. You couldn't ask for a better night for dragging. The track was in great condition and the Density Altitude was perfect. I just had my CAMS installed 1 hour before I showed up at the track.

I SMASHED my personal best last night. I ran an 11.470 with a trap of 122.16 and a personal best 1.682 60'....
Way to go!

We had similar weather in Michigan that night and I also went to the local track in search of a new personal best time. Unfortunately the track closed early and I arrived late so there was only time for a single run. But rather than the run of my dreams I wound up breaking the tires loose on launch and had to back off the throttle.

Congrats on your runs, though! Awesome times!
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Thanks for the comment. Hopefully we will see you back in action again soon.
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Originally Posted by Rock
Killer time!!!!! Congrats!!

Please post your launch technique. I assume you were running your BF drag radials?
Hey Rock,

Ya I was running with the DR's.

I asked Albert what tires to run with since he is "the man" when it comes to running at the track with our E55's. Although, if the track is still not prepped right, like the first two weeks this year, it doesn't matter what you have, the tires will break loose.

Problem with more HP and TQ, is to get it to the tires without breaking loose. That's where a lot of practice and experimentation takes place. To me, it gets harder to launch and get a great 60' with more modifications.

You can have a 675 HP BEAST, but if you don't know how to launch, you can get beat by someone with a lot less HP. Experience makes a HUGE difference in running at the track with high HP TQ BEASTS.

Take care Bro....

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Yo Rocket,

Long time no hear. Brotha, I am anxious for you and Jim to get your beasts on the track. I have no doubt with your set up you will do better than 11.470. Is the heat a problem already out there. One nice thing about New England Dragway, it still feels like winter here so it makes for great Density Altitude.

Good luck with your maiden run with your new CAMS man>>>>>

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