Ketzer

Mine had a chronic leak. The two other owners I used to see at Motorsports Park on Thursday nights had similar issues. In 40k miles of use/ownership (sold to buy a Z06), I did not scatter one. Nor did either one of the other two owners I met at the track. I guess we are just poor drivers, not up to your divine skill level. Best of luck with the ZR1.


Jeff-

rbaker

I bought a 2008 Z06... absolutely 0 problems so far, and it's been to 2 track events already. It's faster, better handling, better braking & more rewarding to drive on the track than any AMG car. Several people in the club also have bought C6 Z06's and none of them have had any problems. AMG makes great street cars but they can't handle track use. I obviously can't speak for the ZR1 since it's FI and has many changes, but the Z06's are very reliable & super quick track cars.

BTW, my Bimmers have had HUGE warranty issues & many of them are made worse by the dealer's lack of ability to fix them (South Bay BMW in Torrance, CA sucks!).

rbaker

So 2005/2006 model years AMG's aren't new enough to be representative of Mercedes? What about the 2008 E550 that still drives like a boat?

My biggest beef is actually with the dealers, both BMW & Mercedes, that aren't willing or can't fix the problems correctly on the first visit & cause more problems. Then when they try to tell you that problem is "normal" for an AMG or M car it's just ridiculous.

ItalianStallion

I want to see what the stock motor can handle. It's basically an LS3 with forged internals, blower, etc, right? It comes with launch control, magnetic suspension, and a beautiful interior. Choice of manual or auto. I totally dig it and may get one in the future. I have an 08 Z06 and quality is great. I put 3k miles on it so far and I have some light boltons and not one issue. I beat the crap out of it every day and it's solid as a rock. When I tried running the SL55 hard, it would overheat everytime, as well as give me malfunctions. I even broke the power steering/rack and pinion by drifting. Same happened to my CLK500. The Z06 is bulletproof. And if Caddy is using the suspension of the ZR1 with a detuned LS9 (beefed up and blown LS3), then it should be one hell of a car. Time will tell though, I'd wait and see how reliable they are with mods first. I'd only get one if I can get 700hp out of stock motor and stock blower as well as getting away with a 100+shot of n2o. I also wonder how the auto tranny is. The manual should be a beast if its from the ZR1.

adean1979

The CTS-V doesn't have the forged internals like the ZR1. It has hypereutectic (cast) pistons. It ticks me off that they skimped on that when it wouldn't have cost that much to add forged pistons but oh well. They were trying to save $ to offer the car in the $60s. Plus, I'm sure they didn't want heavily modded CTS-Vs blowing stock ZR-1s off the road (which would have happened if GM put the forged motor in the CTS-V).

Wolverine55

Yeah, but its still a cadillac...

transferred

I don't buy that lap time.

transferred

Change for 07 was the E63. Better body control than the E55. Still no M5 but next model E63 should be another step forward for AMG. Of course the E550 drives like a boat, regular MB drivers want a smooth ride. No bearing on AMG models from 2007+

transferred

The Holdens are crap. Badged as Vauxhalls in the UK. With a blower and fifty more hp they are still slower than new M3 and C63. Buy a copy of Evo and you'll see for yourself.

transferred

Only for idiots who pay and have to have the first one in town. I only buy with a few grand off MSRP. It's easy to do.

Fast55

Also does not have the dry sump and uses the smaller 1900 Eaton blower VS the 2300 for the ZR-1 which is going to limit maximum boost, but hey, 600 crank HP should easily be attainable. Since this V was designed into the basic CTS from the start, it should be a lot more reliable than the old CTS platform which was basically maxed out with a tweaked V6. Time will tell, but I seriously doubt this thing will have anymore warranty issues than a newer Kraut Kar.

Hammer Down

Jesus, you guys are killin me...... AMGCaddyAMG GermanAmerican slap:German...... thank god that Toyota,Honda or Nissan have not entered the high performance sedan market yet. Could you imagine the forum war

TopGun32

I would not buy new.. (the same applies to any MB AMG)

maybe 1 or 2 year pro-owned.

The CTS-V is a great car period and it will take atleast Stage 1 E55 to stay with one on the straights.. and forget about out it on the turns.

At this point.. AMG, RS, M will need Turbos to keep up with this beast. The Natural Aspired engines will not cut it.

The only thing that might be it weakness will be the Auto or Manual 6 speed.

AMG, M and RS will be going or have started using Dual clutch transmissions... which can make up the difference in power and torque.

but aside from that.. its a hell of a car.

Fast55

They have. I saw the Lexus IS-F in person, and I have to say, that's a bad a$$ Toyota.

Satan

I didn't like it in person, plus their cars just never had soul, and they still don't.

rkao

Wow...I've always thought I am the biggest Teutonic marque snob I know...am I ever wrong!

Having said that, and having had German cars since my university days in 1992 (VW Corrado VR6...still a cool car), I am intrigued by recent domestic efforts like the Pontiac G8 GT and now the CTS-V in question.

I'm sure certain details like interior trim quality and body panel gap would remain a step behind the 'chermin or even Japanese products, but it's still a cool bang for the buck proposition/equation.

I wouldn't discount leasing a CTS-V for 24 months when my E63 lease is up...especially since I'm not sure if the W212 AMG model would be out by April 2010, when the current lease ends.

rkao

The Evo crew rather liked the Vauxhall VXR8 on eCoty 2007...and it did beat the Aston Martin DBS, which came in dead last in the roster of 12 cars!

6.3AMG

I'd take that cadillac over your benz any day of the week. No questions

aleksandar1099

I dont know about that....when i drive my car 120 down the highway it is quiet and stable....drive any american car that fast other than the vette, viper, and ford gt....and it just feels like it is going to fall apart...

transferred

Why do you continue to troll here? Go away little boy. As for the other members, read this guys history. You'll learn to ignore him as I will from now.

transferred

But if you look a the stats it seems it could be so slow give the fact it had a supercharger. Someone else was discussing this on the forum, how it was slower than cars with much less power/weight ratio.

It's ok in the same way the pontiac gto is ok. It'll outrun a Boxster in a straightline but that's about it.

psuball1

The Ford GT, Viper and certain Vettes are not supposed to be smooth at highway speeds.

I would not go against an E55 regarding how smooth it is on the highway but I would also never go against the three American hotrods on the track.

psuball1

Why are so many people against Caddy? They are an American Icon and have a ton of history. The previous gen V is a race car with a winning record.

I had the first gen V which yes, had a few rear end issues but it was still a TON of fun to drive and handled really well.

I think this car will be a rockstar!! I guess we will all know as soon as the big test comes out.

rbaker

Well I'm going to find out how it drives later this week... it might be a good trade for the 545i sport, instead of a used E55 for a driver.

Cylinder Head

iTrader: (1)

As a rocketship daily this thing is going to rule. It will probably get decent gas mileage when it's not on full tilt and the interior is gorgeous. That being said, I still don't think it's on the level of the E55/63/M cars.