CWW

Ya, but at least it would get him fired in the meantime. That would be some slight progress, until law enforcement rolls over to his house..

TectiteE

He should join your forum because from the sounds of it he's going to be seeing a lot of crown vics in the future.

ieatglue

I've been reading this thread over and over. You guys have done some awesome work! I know how it feels to be ripped off. I got ripped off for $1000 on some z06 rims. The guy paid me 1k and never paid the other 1k, i didnt know his name, but memorized his plate. I filed a claim against him and served him 5 days later. He returned the rims and I paid him back $900, Deducted that $100 for court cost and gas money


I hope you catch that *******!!
Good luck from the guys (and gals) @ trailvoy.com

HeirKranz

i think he will be calling out today!!!!!!

Hey jonothan how about you turn your friend in now?????

Maybe we should drop a line to his manager, would make the store look very bad if he did any of these activities from there!

someone should walk in the store, bring up Safari and brose this thread! before 5pm

Fulcrum525

I've recently had an experience with a totally different type of scam and I'll tell you one general rule about these people. EVERY word that comes out of their mouths is a lie.

Jimmy Dushku

Guys, Jonathan Turner's facebook is open to people in the Boston network. Join before he gets up and sees these posts and save everything. I see that someone tracked down his apple store. If he calls in sick today, this other guy in the picture is named Gerald Trotman. He may be there.

I've been reading since the beginning, but I don't remember if it has been brought up or not. How do we know Jonathan isn't really Billy smith? It seems there is so much on Jonathan yet so little on Billy. Could he be using someone's name?

PyroZach

Call the store again, get a managers name and then call him back at any number (preferably not his work one) and then say something along the lines of "you said you boss got upset about personal calls, i talked to (managers name) today, he/she didn't seem that upset about the call, but lets see his/her reaction when he/she finds out your a thief"

Sit back and listen for the sound of him ****ting a brick.

jrcart

A pretty convient place to work and pick up credit card numbers from customers. I wonder how many people that shopped at the Apple store in Cambridge later had fraudulant charges on their credit card they used at the Apple store. This might be an area of interest for the local authorites in Cambridge.

thebenzbar

Here is an example of 2 ex-Apple employees from MA. that got caught! JT and BJS may have a string going-on too at his Apple store, so who knows right? It's all speculation but these 2 idiots aren't your likely altar-boy candidates you know!

From Mac Daily News report on 3/22/08:
"Two men employed to sell iPhones at the Apple Computer Store in the Mall at Rockingham Park [Salem, New Hampshire] went into business for themselves, stealing 332 of them before being caught by their bosses, police said," James A. Kimble reports for The Eagle-Tribune.

"Police yesterday arrested Joshua Garrand, 28, of Methuen, Mass., and Christopher Nashed, 22, of Sandown on felony theft charges of stealing $132,468 worth of the popular computer phone and reselling them on the black market, police said," Kimble reports.

"Garrand and Nashed were taken into custody at their homes yesterday afternoon without incident," Kimble reports.

"Investigators were first contacted by the store in early January. Salem police Sgt. Steve Malisos dug through store records and spent three months on the case," Kimble reports.

"Deputy police Chief William Ganley said the department has dealt with a lot of employee thefts over the years, but nothing comparable to the iPhone case," Kimble reports.

binarypower

Someone call the store and talk to his coworkers. Try to make allies with the people he works with to get more information about him... what he drives, where he lives.... try to buddy up with them and give them the address to the post. We need an insider to his world and this is a great place to start. Maybe he ripped off a coworker too?

fng

Great thread.

I registered just to throw out an idea - can someone go to that apple store and post in this thread so the mods can check the ip address? That way we can see if any scams were run from his workplace.

mad_vtak

^^ It would be a coincidence

CWW

Or set the cliff's notes version of Jon and Billy's scam as the safari homepage on every computer in the store...lol

I still think someone oughtta call the store manager. Some of the IP's traced back to Cambridge, so odds are, one of these douches used the store to post on forums and run the scam. Definitely cause for termination...

ieatglue

Got some more info...

albeik

hmm.. I have been in the apple store many times in Cambrige side gallaria and have seen the person on the left plenty times!

Jimmy Dushku

That's a good idea. I bet his employers wouldn't be too appreciative of him conducting his "business" WHILE at work.

55fanatic

Thanks Andy and Phil... if we can keep a minimum on the post whoring I think many ideas and lots of information about victims and Billy's life are coming in still. As more and more people read this thread it is bound to happen that we come accross someone else who knows him and will give him up...

amdeutsch

Good suggestion. If someone does I ask that he does not post for several hours under his user name as that will override the IP since its kinda FIFO. We would post an all clear once we have. Please let one of us mods know if you are planning on doing this for traceability.

Thanx

woodymq

First of all, amazing detective work guys. This is seriously the most amazing example of web community I've ever seen.

I actually work around the corner. I'll have to stop in and do some "browsing". Unfortunately, I don't have a camera phone, so I won't be able to get pics. I'll let you guys know if I see Jonathan.

Might be worth swinging by Best Buy, too. I had a buddy get fraudulently charged $2K on his card at that store. I pray that Billy works there. If we could get him busted on that as well, I'll be so pumped.

Sidders

Jonathan's not due in till 5 tonight, just to let you know ;]

thebenzbar

He definitely has an iPhone as evidenced on that pic with his green jacket and leopard shirt. You can tell since the earbuds he's using is specifically for the iPhone. Which could mean.... he can also use the Apple Store's free wifi to post online and conduct scams straight from his iPhone. We all know wifi is way faster than Edge's capability so it makes sense for him to utilize the wifi there at work. And he doesn't necessarily need to be working while posting since he can stand right outside the store and conduct all his web scams and such... You know, he's probably reading all the threads anyway since he can access the forums almost anytime & anywhere.

thebenzbar

All the Macs there have iSight... which is Apple's built-in webcam. You can utilize it to take pics of the area/people. Use Photobooth for that purpose. Then you'll see a small thumbnail and drag each into Mail, and quickly plug-in the email you want the pics to send it to.... This is normal since every teenager I see when I visit at an Apple store do this all the time! So voila! you'll have pics!

If you want to take it further, Photobooth even has a videocam recording capability. So you can just activate it (it's easy, just click on the video icon when Photobooth opens up) and let it record endlessly. Then email it to your anonymous mail account (thru Mail). This is easy surveillance, trust me.

Jimmy Dushku

You're right. He talks about it on his facebook and makes mention of some 3rd party apps he's running on it at his twitter account. http://twitter.com/mister_turner
Now this is starting to make more sense.

ieatglue

it could be an ipod touch...

car_lost

andsimp2 was/is a member on ClubLexus as well. He's posted pic's of those pink headlights a bunch of times. you guys may wanna check there and see if he has scammed anyone on there... might help your case.